Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: » I was thinking of buying a second hand VW Passat (2013/14) from the UK. Luckily I stumbled across this thread before that happened. Quick question for any one that can answer it; Would it still be worth buying if the car has not had the fix? Or should I just steer clear altogether? Would appreciate as many answers as possible.
Stallingrad wrote: » In the same boat and decided to avoid the B7 Passat diesel altogether. Too may question marks and pitfalls. Pity as they are an excellent car, have a petrol B7 and love it.
Neilw wrote: » If it's an excellent car just don't bother with the update, it will still be excellent then.
colm_mcm wrote: » Lolhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=59&v=ef5pzAggpoU&ebc=ANyPxKqbqnpTMg5EFEir5VQoPQ4NQB41sP6nzvlCwbV8mbdZQrrqbOAsFRv2ctFeakGk0lqi1OPSpVasDd1SXSZA3HwCSqbjBA
bazz26 wrote: » You can check Irish VWs on here but it won't be able to check imports:https://campaigncheck.ie/
Diesel car software updates could fall foul of EU rules Software changes to lower emissions from diesel car engines will likely fall foul of EU law, one Irish lawyer involved in the VW emissions scandal has said. Evan O’Dwyer said the only legal fix would be to ban the affected cars from the road, The Irish Times reports. VW Group, Daimler and BMW announced this week that they were releasing a software update for millions of diesel cars in the face ofmounting criticism from the public over nitrogen oxide emissions. But Mr O’Dwyer (pictured), a lawyer for several Irish owners who are taking legal action against VW Group over ‘defeat devices’, said the move would breach EU rules. “The EU has banned software cheating defeat devices. There is no EU law authorising any fix to cure the existence of defeat devices. Unless the EU amends the law, the only legal solution currently available is to withdraw those cars affected from the roads including here in Ireland. “In this case the political and legal solutions are, as of now, utterly incompatible,” he said. The lawyer added: “The belated meeting of the German federal government and domestic car manufacturers seeking to find a German solution to a German problem. This is a pan European problem that is incapable of being fixed in one EU member state.” However, BMW said its update is not a fix but an improvement. A spokeswoman for the firm in Ireland said: “At present we are looking into yesterday’s announcement to see what the implications are from an Irish perspective."
colm_mcm wrote: Don't let them near it.
Henry Ford III wrote: » VW wouldn't do you wrong surely? p.s. Your fuel economy is very poor. Should be nearer 60mpg.
bmwguy wrote: » That's not poor in the slightest. It might be rated at 60mpg but back road driving returning 45mpg is good. Getting 75% of claimed mpg out of any car never mind the masters of cheating tests Volkswagen is perfectly normal.
colm_mcm wrote: » It all comes down to what mpg the OP usually gets/got. We're talking one trip here.
Henry Ford III wrote: » True enough. On average though nearer 60mpg should be possible from a 1.6TDI Golf however.
Henry Ford III wrote: » It is. I've had a few Ford Foci diesels from new. 6 of them 1.6 and now 1.5TDCI 120bhp. They all returned high 50's mpg. The current one returns 58.1mpg over 7500miles. A reduction of 25% in fuel economy from that is highly significant.
Toyotafanboi wrote: You can't really compare a 1.6 diesel focus MPG from new to a 1.6 Golf bought second hand with 200k on the clock across one tank.
Henry Ford III wrote: » Course you can.
Atlantic Dawn wrote: If your happy with it as is why risk anyone messing around with it for some "fix" when it's not broken now?