Summer transfer thread 17/18 season (NEYMAR TALK IN OTHER THREAD)

thebaz wrote: »

Funny most internationals sell out faster than soccer - people do care - cop on

Rugby is a minority sport in comparison to football.Very few countries play rugby to a high level.
Sure Ireland are one of the best teams around atm so it's no surprise if they sell out quicker but I'd guess most soccer internationals out sell rugby.

Does the money supposedly changing hands in these deals actually exist, or is a lot of it bull.

Does if show up on anything, is it just 'well we'll pay x millions' but it's on such strange terms over a long time that it never really changes hands, except to see a good chunk siphoned off into varying pocket of agents, advisors, Swiss bank accounts.....

It all looks like a big ponzi scheme to me.

greendom wrote: »

£515,000 per week AFTER TAX!!! That is just insane

And doesnt france have a 70% tax rate for high earners? So the weekly gross is 1.7m....jesus christ

thebaz wrote: »

I just don't enjoy watching the very high level of football any more, for that reason - I can't relate to a footballer making over a 100k a week - perhaps a Messi or Ronaldo - when you watch league of Ireland players giving it there all , I can relate more - same for rugby or GAA players at top level , they are not making these obscene amounts .

So if a league of ireland player gets signed by barca for 200k a week you'd be like nah **** that guy, I could relate to him last week but **** him now?

There's way too many people shouting me out to respond to each individually so here's a catch all answer.

On Neymar wanting to leave Barcelona: This is a guy who had the world at his feet, to play with a group of players who are the best in history, to learn at the side of the greatest player ever Messi, to do it all at a club that had nurtured Neymar and had done so much to improve him as a player. Why leave? Money is the answer. There's no other answer. People will spin it and talk about ambition, PSG is not ambition, PSG is a club with a small history and playing in the 8th ranked league in Europe. That's not ambition. To step away from Messi, Pique, Iniesta, Busquets ect. for Paris is greed, it's green eyed green, plain and simple. I've seen people say "oh but what's the difference between this and any other big player transferring from one big club to another" the difference is that he is leaving the best team of a generation and the best club in the world to go to Paris (!), he's giving up the chance to be king at Barcelona to be a joker in Paris. That's the difference.

On Neymar's attitude towards the club, it's fans and players: I've always been pro Neymar. Not every Barcelona fan has been. He's an amazing talent and maybe for a minute I was convinced that he loved the club. Clearly I was wrong. By letting it drag on for so long, by not giving the fans the respect of letting us know what's happening, by rejecting the advice of teammates who have stuck up for him and defended him on numerous occasions, Neymar has shown himself to have no character, no love for the club, no regard for his teammates, he has shown himself to be a Judas. Some of the greatest players to ever play the game have gone out of their way to back him up and accept him into the group and asked him to stay, to not only say no but to take so bloody long doing it is an unforgivable insult, as are his antics in training with Semedo.

On Barcelona's future: To everybody laughing, or talking about death knell's or whatever else, they'd do well to remember that Barcelona always comes back stronger. This is still an extraordinary group of players, capable of things few, if any, other squads in world football are capable of. No player is bigger than Barcelona, and certainly Neymar is not bigger than Barcelona. He's a loss, but a replaceable loss and there's Messi, there's always Messi.

I'll end it with this. Two things. The first is that I am so proud of FC Barcelona and this crop of players. They love the club, they do everything to protect the club and to make it better, in their hands the club will always strive to be better today than it was yesterday. The second, and last thing, I'll leave you with are some quotes. A transfer saga that's provoked so much talk, so many articles, punditry pieces ect. and yet the wisest and most pertinent comments on the situation come from Johan Cruyff from beyond the grave.

"Messi and Neymar? I wouldn't put two captains on the same ship. We have to learn from the past" - Johan Cruyff, 2013

"If you have second thoughts on playing for Barcelona, you are no longer of service to us." - Johan Cruyff

That last one is the one to think on.

My god why do people keep replying to AIG. He is trying to get a reaction from you, he's a troll. Unfortunately clicking ignore user is no use as all his his comments are quoted by other users.

This fee/wages is PSG giving 2 fingers to FFP and UEFA. It's a massive signal, not from PSG, but from Qatar itself.

Neymar is probably signing up for so much sponsorship and promotion of Qatar his head will be spinning.

PSG must be lawyering up to the hilt for legal challenges ahead, but it must all be considered worth it.
This whole thing is about 25% about football, and the rest about publicity, marketing, promotion and hype.

**** FFP and the attempt to pull up the ladder around the established clubs.

Based on last years performances in the champions league, there is not a whole lot of difference between Barcelona and PSG. Both made it to the Quarter finals, both would easily be in most people's top 8 teams in Europe, and it took an absolutely mental last 10 minute collapse for Barcelona to get past PSG in the champions league, let's not forget they lost to them 4-0 in Paris.

So why is there this belief that Neymar is taking this massive massive step down? Basically what is happening here is he is making a side-ways step in the grand scheme of things, he's leaving one two horse race to join another, he's leaving one major European City for another, leaving one massive pay packet for a (larger) one.

Hardly swapping a Ferrari for a feckin Fiat.

Headshot wrote: »

Lets face it Neymar is leaving a Ferrari for a Fiat. I don't particular like Barca but PSG is not even in the same realm as Barca with its stature in the game.

He's left for the money tbh all the best to him, hard to turn that money down but going to France with a weak league and not playing with likes of Messi every week, I don't understand the decision myself but c'est la vie

My thoughts exactly. If he wants to be seen as better than Messi make it happen at Barcelona. The reason he hasnt stepped out of Messi's shadow is because he hasnt played well enough. He is taking the easy option going to PSG and getting a load of money.

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

But what if psg win champs league next year with neymar beating barca in the final

He probably wins the Balon D'or as thats the way it works whether he deserves it or not. Thats not the point Im making though. He obviously doesnt back himself to become more important to Barca than Messi.