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Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3
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Shurimgreat wrote: »You still seem to struggle to get your head around the fact McStay/McHale come as a package. You can't have one without the other, that's been made clear. If you don't want McHale that's fine but you won't be getting McStay either.
Care to name any alternatives? Maybe we could try John O'Mahoney again?
Like I said, Mayo football is doomed because of some very vocal clueless followers like those who oppose McHale for the most laughable reasons. I have seen his tan cited on here as one reason not to trust him.
McStay/McHale have more than earned the right to manage the Mayo team. They can't do any worse than what we had in recent years.
This is the type of "grass is always greener" stuff I am really sick of hearing from some Mayo fans.0 -
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seligehgit wrote: »I suppose with the two teams involved comparisons vis a vis the management teams were always going to be a subject matter ripe for discussion,most especially given the fact Kevin McStay and Liam McHale are Mayo natives.
However there is no management vacancy in Mayo and I am happy to put my faith in the current gaffer.We're still alive and kicking in the championship even if it at times appears as though we are on life support.I am hoping Stephen Rochford really freshens the team and shows faith in the depth of his panel.A change of full back would be a start.It was only in his absence that it became so apparent how invaluable a player Tom Parsons is,please God he's fit to start.I'd be inclined to start Coen or Vaughan as direct replacement for Seamie O Shea who has been very off colour this summer.
Conor Loftus deserves a start and can give Andy Moran a bit of respite,Andy has been immense this summer but needs a break.Jason Doherty has played little football this summer as a starter so he should be relatively fresh.
The likes of Shane Nally is another live option to start,does Boyler need a rest given these rumoured analgesic injections he is receiving pre match for a hip injury.Again to reiterate the point I am hoping Rochford will overcome his conservatism in terms of team selection and seizes the day.In addition I would like him to be a tad quicker in making switches.
You chickened out Seligehgit... full back?
It's a tough gig he has. The subs were too soon against Cork. You'd long for the days when we didn't have the bench to compete 0 -
Shurimgreat wrote: »You still seem to struggle to get your head around the fact McStay/McHale come as a package. You can't have one without the other, that's been made clear. If you don't want McHale that's fine but you won't be getting McStay either.
Care to name any alternatives? Maybe we could try John O'Mahoney again?
Like I said, Mayo football is doomed because of some very vocal clueless followers like those who oppose McHale for the most laughable reasons. I have seen his tan cited on here as one reason not to trust him.
McStay/McHale have more than earned the right to manage the Mayo team. They can't do any worse than what we had in recent years.
Im not struggling with any facts, i dont think anyone has actually said we didn't want them and nobody cited his tan as a reason, thats yet another falsehood you're pedalling. Care to quote the post about the tan? And the opinions of the fans i would suggest are largely irrelevant when it comes to choosing a manager and i think there would be plenty of support for McStay/McHale but thats not what was being discussed which you are deliberately ignoring. Are you including Horan's term in your 'recent years' jibe?0 -
You chickened out Seligehgit... full back?
It's a tough gig he has. The subs were too soon against Cork. You'd long for the days when we didn't have the bench to compete
Vaughan at full back for moi,options are very limited.He may lack the mobility but he has the physicality for the position.Waste of Leeroy deploying him in the full back line,Barry Moran ideally could act as a sweeper but is not making the match day panel as yet with his lack of match fitness.
I know mention was made that Ger Caff was better on Sunday,I can't say I saw any great difference.He was second to almost every ball and I am having recurring nightmares about a certain Mr. Donaghy.He was very very good for the Kingdom on Sunday.They seemed to be doing a practice run in anticipation of an anything but guaranteed meeting with ourselves.Johnny Buckley really impressed too.
The Cork game was the one game where that accusation could be aimed at Stephen Rochford but I thought he was slow on Sunday at making changes and this pattern has been common place throughout the summer.We have a team who have played a lot of football,introducing players for at times ten minutes at maximum is a waste of a vital playing resource.0 -
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Caf, Moran Vaughan for caf loftus for Moran
What ever happened big Barry surly he has to be better than sos this season
Caf for Caf? That could work I'm guessing Coen.
Your original point was that he wasn't blooding youth. Now it's just selection changes. I thought the whole county knew the Moran is just back from injury tbh.
Going back to your original point of not blooding youth. I don't think Rochford can be accused of not looking at them.
From last years U21's:
3 played on Sunday (Coen, DO'C, Loftus)
A 4th was on the bench (Boland)
A 5th is on the panel (O'Donoghue)
A 6th was on the panel last year (Hall)
A 7th was dropped from the panel in March (Irwin)
8 through to 11 are on the development panel (Ruane, Cunniffe, Carr, Reape)
Outside of that Akram has another year I think. I don't think I've missed anyone but I didn't/don't follow the FBD much at all.
I don't think Rochford can be accused of not looking at youth. I'll give him respect for knowing who is ready to be playing Senior County football. He's seeing them train enough to know if they're ready for it.
He might be accused of being conservative but he's managing a team that lost out on an All Ireland by one point last year. It's hardly a Donegal or Roscommon scenario where they were forced to blood youth.0 -
Caf for Caf? That could work I'm guessing Coen.
Your original point was that he wasn't blooding youth. Now it's just selection changes. I thought the whole county knew the Moran is just back from injury tbh.
Going back to your original point of not blooding youth. I don't think Rochford can be accused of not looking at them.
From last years U21's:
3 played on Sunday (Coen, DO'C, Loftus)
A 4th was on the bench (Boland)
A 5th is on the panel (O'Donoghue)
A 6th was on the panel last year (Hall)
A 7th was dropped from the panel in March (Irwin)
8 through to 11 are on the development panel (Ruane, Cunniffe, Carr, Reape)
Outside of that Akram has another year I think. I don't think I've missed anyone but I didn't/don't follow the FBD much at all.
I don't think Rochford can be accused of not looking at youth. I'll give him respect for knowing who is ready to be playing Senior County football. He's seeing them train enough to know if they're ready for it.
He might be accused of being conservative but he's managing a team that lost out on an All Ireland by one point last year. It's hardly a Donegal or Roscommon scenario where they were forced to blood youth.
Plunkett was played in the FBD games and 2 League games came on as sub (Kerry and Roscommon)
I think David Kenny from last years under 21s' got a game or 2 in the FBD, Fionan Duffy as well.0 -
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