Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

keane2097

Is there any feeling amongst fans that Seamie is not playing well or ye happy enough?

Farmer_3650

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

Yes you are correct. I was wrong to paint everyone with the same brush and make a generalisation. But isn't it a shame for the proper and good Roscommon football fans that people like me make the generalisation?

I apologise for doing it though, I know it's not all of them.

It is a shame that a few ignorant so called "Rossies" ruined the game for both Mayo and Roscommon fans on Sunday. I was very surprised at how many there actually was. It is a disgrace and it has no place in the GAA. Somehow I don't think there will be as much of that s**t the next day because it will only be the real fans that travel to the next game.

PARlance

keane2097 wrote: »

Is there any feeling amongst fans that Seamie is not playing well or ye happy enough?

Hasn't really got going individually imo. But himself, Tom and Aidan as a MF trio of sorts were doing ok collectively. He probably epitomizes the team, been struggling through and the hope is something will spark into life.

It's a shame, he was in flying form for his Club coming into the Championship.

Blackjack

keane2097 wrote: »

Is there any feeling amongst fans that Seamie is not playing well or ye happy enough?

He's not been great in a few games this year. Of all the players who you'd say are feeling the tiredness from the run of games, it's him. Surprised he stayed on as long the last day if Parsons was fit to come on at all.

yop

Green Peter wrote: »

I've seen my county win two all Ireland's in my lifetime and I consider myself young, seen Sam paraded in my local village by local players, I've every faith I'll see it again. In the early 90s Galway were in Division 3 and many of the 98 team being ridiculed . When we are good enough to get to a final we'll do the business like 98 and 01

I've seen my County win 3 All-irelands

How many hurling finals you been to of late

Oldira

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

O'Shea puts in one average performance after 3 colossal displays including two extra times in the space of a month, and we have moronic posts saying he's over the hill. Christ I don't know what to say here sometimes.

Mayo have 3 of the best players this decade in O'Shea,O'Connor and Keegan. Two of those were quiet on Sunday and the third was brillant in one half but far quieter in the second. If all three or even two of the three play really well on Monday there is no way I can see Mayo losing. Sadly!

Blud

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Jose Mourinho thinks he's one of the greatest coaches of all time.

Again this is the biggest non story of all time.

Its the same old sh*te about trying to find reasons why McStay/McHale shouldn't manage the Mayo team.

Its got to the stage now where some people would prefer a hopeless manager to manage Mayo rather than a good one, because the good one might be a bit c*cky. Its all to do with ability, not who said what when or how big their boasts are.

Sometimes I despair with Mayo football and a large section of its followers who seem pretty clueless about the direction Mayo football should go in.

The point with it is that when a coach is peddling sh!te talk, players see through him and know it's sh!te talk.

That's McHale's issue from my perspective, there's no credibility to anything he says.

DDC1990

Lads I know a lot of ye were in 306 as well so it happened right in front of us.

What did ye think of the Keith Higgins high tackle at the end?

I honestly thought it was a red card tackle. He lept into it late and really high. It was reckless.

Aidan O'Shea was hit high as well but I thought this one was really bad.

RTE showed no slow motion replays afterwards so it's hard to tell if it was just the whole drama and emotion of the occasion.

km79

DDC1990 wrote: »

Lads I know a lot of ye were in 306 as well so it happened right in front of us.

What did ye think of the Keith Higgins high tackle at the end?

I honestly thought it was a red card tackle. He lept into it late and really high. It was reckless.

Aidan O'Shea was hit high as well but I thought this one was really bad.

RTE showed no slow motion replays afterwards so it's hard to tell if it was just the whole drama and emotion of the occasion.

Thought both were yellows
Keith's could have been a black if it wasn't so high and dangerous !

Green Peter

Every final galway have been in since 1987.

yop

Green Peter wrote: »

Every final since 1987.

And seen all 7 losses then.

Anyway, we haven't seen Galway win a single champ game in Croker in 17 years so doubt we will see them win an AI any time soon either.

Coillte_Bhoy

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Jose Mourinho thinks he's one of the greatest coaches of all time.

Again this is the biggest non story of all time.

Its the same old sh*te about trying to find reasons why McStay/McHale shouldn't manage the Mayo team.Its got to the stage now where some people would prefer a hopeless manager to manage Mayo rather than a good one, because the good one might be a bit c*cky. Its all to do with ability, not who said what when or how big their boasts are.

Sometimes I despair with Mayo football and a large section of its followers who seem pretty clueless about the direction Mayo football should go in.

You're being completely disingenuous. I dont think anybody was against McStay being manager of Mayo per se, posters were merely pondering the reasons for the perceived dislike of McHale among the players. As for

Its the same old sh*te about trying to find reasons why McStay/McHale shouldn't manage the Mayo team.Its got to the stage now where some people would prefer a hopeless manager to manage Mayo rather than a good one, because the good one might be a bit c*cky. Its all to do with ability, not who said what when or how big their boasts are.

This is plain horsehit, pure and simple. Not worthy of any further comment.

Green Peter

yop wrote:

And seen all 7 losses then.

yop wrote:

Anyway, we haven't seen Galway win a single champ game in Croker in 17 years so doubt we will see them win an AI any time soon either.

I've been at two hurling title wins and two football title wins. few counties ever get to experience that. With a bit of luck the hurling might come our way this year. I'm sure you'll be cheering us on!!

yop

Green Peter wrote: »

I've been at two hurling title wins and two football title wins. few counties ever get to experience that. With a bit of luck the hurling might come our way this year. I'm sure you'll be cheering us on!!

Absolutely, loads of good friends who have great opinions on hurling and football, actually work with Galway ex hurling captain.

We all don't cheer on the opposition when the neighbours are playing

Shurimgreat

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

You're being completely disingenuous. I dont think anybody was against McStay being manager of Mayo per se, posters were merely pondering the reasons for the perceived dislike of McHale among the players. As for



This is plain horsehit, pure and simple. Not worthy of any further comment.

You still seem to struggle to get your head around the fact McStay/McHale come as a package. You can't have one without the other, that's been made clear. If you don't want McHale that's fine but you won't be getting McStay either.

Care to name any alternatives? Maybe we could try John O'Mahoney again?

Like I said, Mayo football is doomed because of some very vocal clueless followers like those who oppose McHale for the most laughable reasons. I have seen his tan cited on here as one reason not to trust him.

McStay/McHale have more than earned the right to manage the Mayo team. They can't do any worse than what we had in recent years.

ethical

Jesus Christ ,leave O,Mahony where he is................we had a chance before with Micky Moran and Morrison and the FG County board decided that they didnt want an All Ireland and preferred to have O,Mahony elected instead of pursuing Sam Maguire!

Shurimgreat

ethical wrote: »

Jesus Christ ,leave O,Mahony where he is................we had a chance before with Micky Moran and Morrison and the FG County board decided that they didnt want an All Ireland and preferred to have O,Mahony elected instead of pursuing Sam Maguire!

Yeh it was a tongue in cheek suggestion. His best days are behind him as a manager.

There really aren't many alternatives in Mayo to manage the Mayo team. We could well be looking at a period in the doldrums.

NabyLadistheman

I didn't know we were in the market for new management

blinding

Are McStay and McHale joined at the Hip....

Surely Kevin McStay can find other assistants........

If McHale is as good as he says he is why is he a number 2 to McStay . Maybe not as confident as he portrays.........

The high horse brigade

blinding wrote: »

Are McStay and McHale joined at the Hip....

Surely Kevin McStay can find other assistants........

If McHale is as good as he says he is why is he a number 2 to McStay . Maybe not as confident as he portrays.........

They are related. McStay is McHales brother in law

Squatman

it would be interesting to compare how many goals were scored against David clarke this year, versus how many games Ger Cafferkey played in. IE, since Caff was playing full games, have we conceeded more goals on average? for the last 2 games we conceeded 2 goals each which I would wager is much higher than Clarkes recent averages - if not career averages... what are peoples thoughts?

seligehgit

Mayo News Football Podcast Not Gone Yet.

Where do you even start? Mayo and Roscommon drew on Sunday and must meet again on Bank Holiday Monday for a place in the All Ireland semi final. This week's podcast, recorded in Croke Park during and after the game, attempts to make sense of yet another disjointed Mayo performance and a hugely impressive start and finish from Roscommon. On this show, host Rob Murphy, John Gunnigan and Anne-Marie Flynn give you the view from the stands. Meanwhile Mike Finnerty caught up with Shane McGrath and Colm Keys in the press box and there is post game audio from Stephen Rochford and Kevin McStay with thanks to Oisin Langan at Newstalk. Stay tuned for our replay preview podcast next Friday.

http://themayonews.podomatic.com/enclosure/2017-07-31T14_32_08-07_00.mp3

km79

seligehgit wrote: »

Mayo News Football Podcast Not Gone Yet.

Where do you even start? Mayo and Roscommon drew on Sunday and must meet again on Bank Holiday Monday for a place in the All Ireland semi final. This week's podcast, recorded in Croke Park during and after the game, attempts to make sense of yet another disjointed Mayo performance and a hugely impressive start and finish from Roscommon. On this show, host Rob Murphy, John Gunnigan and Anne-Marie Flynn give you the view from the stands. Meanwhile Mike Finnerty caught up with Shane McGrath and Colm Keys in the press box and there is post game audio from Stephen Rochford and Kevin McStay with thanks to Oisin Langan at Newstalk. Stay tuned for our replay preview podcast next Friday.

http://themayonews.podomatic.com/enclosure/2017-07-31T14_32_08-07_00.mp3

Colm keys
Wow
Just wow

boosabum

The high horse brigade wrote: »

They are related. McStay is McHales brother in law

His time in Clare & Cavan wasn't a great success in terms of his coaching.
It's pretty much a package deal with the two lads and this "package" was one of the issues that prevented them from getting the job in 2014.
Good luck to them but in football terms one should never say never. Both are young and energetic enough to be in the running for the mayo management job in future should it arise.

TommyDe

To me the problem is in the half forward line. We have a whole half forward line paying as wing backs effectively.
When the inside forwards get the ball the half forwards line is to far away from play to catch up and it allows teams to get defenders back.

We should be putting clare/derry/roscommon on the back foot but instead we have a team set up to contain the opposition and it is clearly not working at this point. We are scraping through games.

Keegan in the full back line 2nd half was a joke abs the reason why we nearly last. If he was in midfield half forward line yesterday he would've ran riot in the form he was in. It would have made roscommon pull payers back to counter that threat allowing us to push up.

blowitupref

km79 wrote: »

Colm keys
Wow
Just wow

I thought was what Willie Joe (aka John Gunnigan) said about the ref been all in Roscommons favour was more Wow than anything Keys said.

Maybe it was a heat of the moment thing from Mr Gunnigan but i'm sure if he watches back the game he will see Mayo got plenty in their favor from
Joe McQuillan in that match as well. The likes of Higgins,AOS and both O Connors will have to be a bit more careful with their "tackles" in the replay as the ref for Mondays game Anthony Nolan is card happy

km79

blowitupref wrote: »

I thought was what Willie Joe (aka John Gunnigan) said about the ref been all in Roscommons favour was more Wow than anything Keys said.

Maybe it was a heat of the moment thing from Mr Gunnigan but i'm sure if he watches back the game he will see Mayo got plenty in their favor from
Joe McQuillan in that match as well. The likes of Higgins,AOS and both O Connors will have to be a bit more careful with their "tackles" in the replay as the ref for Mondays game Anthony Nolan is card happy

Colm keys is a national journalist and he repeatedly incorrectly referred to mayo possibly playing Tyrone and having lost the potential extra weeks rest
Basic facts incorrect

blinding

The high horse brigade wrote: »

They are related. McStay is McHales brother in law

Maybe after the Roscommon gig they should go their own way and that would stop McStay holding back McHale from proving he is the best coach in the Country ........

Blackjack

Shurimgreat wrote: »

You still seem to struggle to get your head around the fact McStay/McHale come as a package. You can't have one without the other, that's been made clear. If you don't want McHale that's fine but you won't be getting McStay either.

Care to name any alternatives? Maybe we could try John O'Mahoney again?

Like I said, Mayo football is doomed because of some very vocal clueless followers like those who oppose McHale for the most laughable reasons. I have seen his tan cited on here as one reason not to trust him.

McStay/McHale have more than earned the right to manage the Mayo team. They can't do any worse than what we had in recent years.

Since when have these followers been consulted on the appointment of Managers?. Or anything, for that matter?.

Criticism of McStay or McHale either individually or as a pair does not automatically mean being opposed to their appointment to manage the team. You'd do well to cop on to that fact.
Personally, I thought McStay was very poorly treated when Holmes and Connelly were appointed by the County Board, which was a complete shambles.
Perhaps the County Board are these clueless vocal followers you refer to, because the decisions begin and end with them and them alone.

As regards the "Cant do worse" I recall last year we brought the team that is being lauded as one of the best ever to play football to a replay and lost the final by a single point. Not bad for a manager who's in his first year in Inter County management. The only possible improvement on that is for us to win the bloody thing.
Likelihood we will do worse this year as while I expect we should beat Roscommon, I can't see us beating Kerry on current form.

Fr Tod Umptious

blowitupref wrote: »

I thought was what Willie Joe (aka John Gunnigan) said about the ref been all in Roscommons favour was more Wow than anything Keys said.

Maybe it was a heat of the moment thing from Mr Gunnigan but i'm sure if he watches back the game he will see Mayo got plenty in their favor from
Joe McQuillan in that match as well. The likes of Higgins,AOS and both O Connors will have to be a bit more careful with their "tackles" in the replay as the ref for Mondays game Anthony Nolan is card happy

Seriously

You though the post match ramblings about the ref by the editor of a Mayo GAA blog was more of a "wow" moment than a national journalist coming up with a hypothesis of Mayo's disappointment based on a completely incorrect reading of the fixture schedule ?

The guy is a national journalist, yet he did not know who the winners of the game he had just watched would be playing next.

Actually not only did he not know, he had a completely incorrect understanding of who the winners would be playing next.