Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Michael stipe would murder tyson

Stop. Next thing you will believe they put a man on the moon

walshb wrote: »

Fair enough. I haven't read all that they have posted, but I thought it was all just healthy and strong debate.

"Healthy and strong debate"

lol - people have been certified to Brendan's for less than some of the stuff on here

Gintonious wrote: »

The comparison to Neo is pretty accurate.

But then..... that means.....

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

I agree completely on that. He's the only McGregor fan that's had the balls to actually say he believes Conor will win. Fair play.

No doubt about it, the kids got balls, he's pretty deluded and will have to re reg when Conor gets taught a boxing masterclass and then retires - but hell yea the kids got balls - respect

StringerBell wrote: »

You know what, even though I disagree completely that Conor will win, and I don't even want you to define your careful consideration as obviously I will disagree with your thought process completely also. I do respect you for nailing your colours to the mast on it.

I doff my hat to you

I like to think I've always been open minded enough to change my opinions on things if I'm presented with good evidence that my previous opinion was absolute tripe, so if Floyd wins I'll be eating humble pie.

As for the thought process, it's not that I think Conor has *any* advantages over Floyd whatsoever. I think he has vastly inferior handspeed, footwork, jab, reflexes, combinations. Floyd is better in every single aspect of boxing.

But a) sport is littered with examples of people/teams being vastly superior in every aspect and still losing and b) I don't think Conor is going to win a technical boxing match, I think he's going to make it an ugly fight.

I was encouraged by the events of the last week. Tiernan Bradley was discussing the session between Paulie and Conor, and was adamant Conor bossed that session. He was saying that on an instagram live stream with 3 men and a dog watching it, so he had no reason to lie.

Paulie himself admitted the black eye was from Conor landing a "couple of good shots" but that he marks up easier when he's out of practice, so I won't read too much into it... but, to be fair, a lot of people online were telling me Conor wouldn't land a single punch in sparring - even against a slow, fat Paulie.

They've already been proved wrong.

I hope everyone will be open-minded enough as we get closer to the fight and post-fight to give a fair appraisal of what went down:

If Floyd wins I'll be the first to come on to this thread and say I was misguided/delusional/clueless about the intricacies of boxing and the disparity of speciality between the 2 fighters and 2 sports.

wonderfullife wrote: »

So I'll take that as a no to the bet because you're an absolute clown who makes declarative statements then runs away from them screaming 'fanboy' and making personal attacks when challenged.

You said that this fight is a cashgrab and that Conor will be walking away into the sunset with his money shortly afterwards.

Put up or shut up. If you're so confident he will retire soon, then take the bet, otherwise you're yet another "know it all" who knows absolutely nothing.

As for my life, you seem very interested in it, bit creepy.

Take it whatever way you please... I couldn't give a sh!t tbh.

You don't get to shut down an opposing opinion to your own, just by goading someone into some stupid bravado bet.

I am commenting on the fact, that you appear to believe almost everything that comes out of your hero Conor's mouth... but when he tells you (multiple times), that he intends to hang up his gloves at a relatively young age... you choose not to believe this one particular thing he says.

I just find that a very curious window into your mindset... what can I say, I notice these little things. I find them interesting!

Judge how exciting the fight was after the fight not on paper.

Nope. I'm calling it right now... I think it's a total mismatch. And I think it plays out like a total mismatch on the night.

(but then, I do have some boxing knowledge to back that opinion up... so I'm not walking into this thing blind, like some people)

You could show his mugshot to any random 100 people in America and they wouldn't have a clue who he is.

Believe it or not... not everyone in this x-factor generation, is obsessed with fame. (again, this seems like another window into your mindset tbh)

GGG is a great fighter. Some people recognise this, despite him not being super famous.

Not every sports fan is a glory hunter, becoming obsessed with someone after they become a household name... :rolleyes:... there are fans that have been following GGG since his amateur days. (he was even less famous then)

This will be a sporting contest.

Likely in name only, I'm afraid... but keep your hopes up! :pac:

wonderfullife wrote: »

I originally felt Floyd would win via 9th round TKO but my thoughts changed after careful consideration.

I don't think Conor can win this boxing match.

I think he will win.

Out of the closet at last... well done, sir!!

StringerBell wrote: »

You know what, even though I disagree completely that Conor will win, and I don't even want you to define your careful consideration as obviously I will disagree with your thought process completely also. I do respect you for nailing your colours to the mast on it.

I doff my hat to you

Agreed... it took a lot of pressure from many of us on here.

But credit to him, he has eventually shown some honesty!

noc1980 wrote: »

2 years doing just that allowed CM Punk to survive for, what was it, 90 seconds on the ground? Against a rookie who had fought once in the UFC.

Are you really attempting to compare Floyd Mayweather and CM Punk, as sporting and athletic talents... lol...

Please tell me I took you up wrong there, and you were attempting to say something else!? :pac::pac:

wonderfullife wrote: »

If Floyd wins I'll be the first to come on to this thread and say I was misguided/delusional/clueless about the intricacies of boxing and the disparity of speciality between the 2 fighters and 2 sports.

That's great... and I will commend you for doing so, if you do this...

However, you do realise it's not actually that hard to admit right here and now, just how little knowledge you have on the sport?? There's actually no shame in that either btw.

For the record, I don't see you as any kind of expert on this fight... either from an MMA or Boxing perspective. So regardless of the result, I won't be holding you to any real account for your opinions either way!

You're just a really big fan of Conor... and you are very caught up in the whole thing. That's my quite simple view of you! (and a great many other fans too btw)

ThinkProgress wrote: »

(but then, I do have some boxing knowledge to back that opinion up... so I'm not walking into this thing blind, like some people)

Cool story. You had a total of 2 posts in the boxing forum until Conor v Floyd was announced.

As for me, well I've been a fan of boxing since the late 1980's, early 1990's but the era I was a big fan was the mid-1990's.

Fast forward to 2013 and I was keeping an eye on things but not very closely, so I wouldn't have described myself as "massive into boxing", as you can evidence from this post I made in here in 2013:

wonderfullife wrote: »

I'm not massive into boxing so apologies for the dumb question that follows:

Does the kid have any chance of beating Money?

I'll admit i've only seen 1 of his fights against Hatton a few years back and thought he looked very quick but obviously can't base an opinion on 1 fight

I've always had the impression Mayweather is too good for anybody.........then again thought the same about Tiger Woods and Roger Federer for years, they've got older and beatable!

The kid in question was 22-year-old Canelo Alvarez and by 2013 I had only ever seen his fight with Matthew Hatton. I didn't make any false claims to be an expert on his career rise.

As you'll also see from this 2013 post...

wonderfullife wrote: »

seriously same judge as the Pacquiao farce, if she isn't suspended/investigated/drug tested tonight that's a disgrace.

If they uncover she is a crack addict then fair enough.

I had seen every Floyd and Manny fight for the previous 5 or 6 years, enough to know she was one of the judges in the Timothy Bradley debacle.

I'm not an 'expert' on boxing but I've watched hundreds, if not thousands, of boxing fights since the late 1980's. Granted I probably have better/stronger opinions on the era I was obsessed with it and would feel more comfortable discussing Carl Thompson's career than Canelo's...

All should be welcome to discuss this fight, regardless of what they know about boxing. It's attitudes like yours that keep people away from this forum.

Ok time for another to come out of the closet and prepare to be ashamed:

My prediction is that conor makes this boxing match into a fight and surprises Floyd with his awkward style.

He KO's Floyd within 3 rounds.