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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

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  • #3182
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Draw
    snowflaker wrote: »
    Go for it!

    Not a bother, who's paying me?


  • #3183
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    Sweet Science wrote: »
    Yes it would dount anyone would deny it . Wont happen though . Its done more harm to MMA . Their biggest ever star is now boxing . All their other fighters calling out boxers .

    Do we think it has actually harmed MMA?

    Dana White is a pretty shrewd business man. I would imagine he's looking at this as an opportunity to tap into the boxing market and maybe pick up some more viewers to help their numbers at the box office?

    I don't know how it could really harm MMA unless Conor gets absolutely hammered and even then will that damage UFC as it is what the majority of people expect to happen anyway.


  • #3184
    xtal191
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,534 ✭✭✭xtal191


    Floyd via KO-TKO


  • #3185
    hbhook
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭hbhook


    Floyd via DQ
    Would it really damage boxing? If he beats Mayweather it's gonna by a hail mary punch or else he's just really good at boxing and we just don't know it yet. Like, what happens then? Does boxing finally die because you know..boxing's been dying for years now..


  • #3186
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,483 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    rustynutz wrote: »
    Serious question - If, on the very slim chance (and I know the chances are minute) that McGregor wins against Mayweather, would this damage boxing as a sport?

    Not a bit. It would however damage Mayweather a hell of a lot losing to a complete novice

    Put it this way, if it was Canelo or GGG or Spence or Thurman etc, Conor would not get past a single rd.....

    Forget even the WWs, Lomachenko and Frampton would be far too good for Conor....

    Forget even the lower weights,

    Irish amateur internationals would be far too good for Conor

    And on and on...


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  • #3187
    LollipopJimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    How many rounds did it take Tony to get a man with one leg out of there though?

    Sure he barely beat Adonis Creed who was trained by an old man

    :pac:


  • #3188
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    Not a bit. It would however damage Mayweather a hell of a lot losing to a complete novice

    Put it this way, if it was Canelo or GGG or Spence or Thurman etc, Conor would not get past a single rd.....

    Forget even the WWs, Lomachenko and Frampton would be far too good for Conor....

    Forget even the lower weights,

    Irish amateur internationals would be far too good for Conor

    And on and on...

    It would damage boxing. I cant see how you think it wouldn't.


  • #3189
    ebbsy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,194 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Floyd via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    Not a bit. It would however damage Mayweather a hell of a lot losing to a complete novice

    Put it this way, if it was Canelo or GGG or Spence or Thurman etc, Conor would not get past a single rd.....

    Forget even the WWs, Lomachenko and Frampton would be far too good for Conor....

    Forget even the lower weights,

    Irish amateur internationals would be far too good for Conor

    And on and on...

    that is a man talking sense.


  • #3190
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Draw
    ebbsy wrote: »
    that is a man talking sense.

    But why talk sense?

    The fact that this fight is even happening says it all.
    I reckon no one will get too clobbered here, in case they need to sell a rematch.


  • #3191
    hbhook
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭hbhook


    Floyd via DQ
    Are we talking damage to viewership? Going back to last summer boxing has actually started to get things very right even if some of the fights put together haven't turned out as expected. It damages MW but MW doesn't take risks so that's why he's fighting McGregor and stealing some more money!


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  • #3192
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,483 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »
    It would damage boxing. I cant see how you think it wouldn't.

    So, how?

    Keyboard warriors slating Mayweather or slating Boxing?

    Who cares who they slate. The sport is still the sport and still moves on from the circus...

    I think we all have agreed that Conor's win chance is via a KO or an injury. Barring this he cannot win on points unless Floyd turns very old overnight.

    No matter what happens Aug 26 my mind won't be changed on what would happen Conor if he stepped into a ring against so many pros competing today.

    So, for me it will not damage boxing ,or my belief in the sport of boxing and its beauty and toughness and skills...

    Everytime Mayweather has stepped in a ring against a quality pro (and at times against non quality pros) he risked getting knocked out.

    Conor is not a quality pro. But he's not some complete dummy either. He can throw punches..

    Conor scores a KO, I will call it a KO, nothing more or less. My view on boxing as a sport will not suffer and the sport cannot suffer.


  • #3193
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    Not a bit. It would however damage Mayweather a hell of a lot losing to a complete novice

    Put it this way, if it was Canelo or GGG or Spence or Thurman etc, Conor would not get past a single rd.....

    Forget even the WWs, Lomachenko and Frampton would be far too good for Conor....

    Forget even the lower weights,

    Irish amateur internationals would be far too good for Conor

    And on and on...

    That is absurd. You can't go from giving him near zero chance to saying he needs to beat every boxer to give boxing a slap in the face.

    Plus, you would actually write off McGregor against lower weight fighters even if he beats Mayweather. That is ridiculous.


  • #3194
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    So, how?

    Keyboard warriors slating Mayweather or slating Boxing?

    Who cares who they slate. The sport is still the sport and still moves on from the circus...

    I think we all have agreed that Conor's win chance is via a KO or an injury. Barring this he cannot win on points unless Floyd turns very old overnight.

    No matter what happens Aug 26 my mind won't be changed on what would happen Conor if he stepped into a ring against so many pros competing today.

    So, for me it will not damage boxing ,or my belief in the sport of boxing and its beauty and toughness and skills...

    Everytime Mayweather has stepped in a ring against a quality pro (and at times against non quality pros) he risked getting knocked out.

    Conor is not a quality pro. But he's not some complete dummy either. He can throw punches..

    Conor scores a KO, I will call it a KO, nothing more or less. My view on boxing as a sport will not suffer and the sport cannot suffer.

    A little self doubt is a virtue man. Evidence beats theory etc.


  • #3195
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,483 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    That is absurd. You can't go from giving him near zero chance to saying he needs to beat every boxer to give boxing a slap in the face.

    Plus, you would actually write off McGregor against lower weight fighters even if he beats Mayweather. That is ridiculous.

    Not with your reasoning.....

    We all agree that he has a KO chance, however slim/pathetic that is......

    He would have that against not just Floyd.

    But here is one.......

    I would give Conor a greater chance (still very slim) against Floyd than against Canelo or GGG or some others.

    Anyway, Conor winning here is still just "fantasy" talk IMO. Let's dream!


  • #3196
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    Not with your reasoning.....

    We all agree that he has a KO chance, however slim/pathetic that is......

    He would have that against not just Floyd.

    But here is one.......

    I would give Conor a greater chance (still very slim) against Floyd than against Canelo or GGG or some others.

    Anyway, Conor winning here is still just "fantasy" talk IMO. Let's dream!

    Can you not accept that his skill/game plan may give him the KO chance? Can you not give credit that way? We are going from giving him no chance of landing a glove on Floyd to calling a win a fluke. That's sad.


  • #3197
    Sweet Science
    Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    Can you not accept that his skill/game plan may give him the KO chance? Can you not give credit that way? We are going from giving him no chance of landing a glove on Floyd to calling a win a fluke. That's sad.

    If Conors skill lands him the KO everyone will give him credit .


  • #3198
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    So, how?

    Keyboard warriors slating Mayweather or slating Boxing?

    Who cares who they slate. The sport is still the sport and still moves on from the circus...

    I think we all have agreed that Conor's win chance is via a KO or an injury. Barring this he cannot win on points unless Floyd turns very old overnight.

    No matter what happens Aug 26 my mind won't be changed on what would happen Conor if he stepped into a ring against so many pros competing today.

    So, for me it will not damage boxing ,or my belief in the sport of boxing and its beauty and toughness and skills...

    Everytime Mayweather has stepped in a ring against a quality pro (and at times against non quality pros) he risked getting knocked out.

    Conor is not a quality pro. But he's not some complete dummy either. He can throw punches..

    Conor scores a KO, I will call it a KO, nothing more or less. My view on boxing as a sport will not suffer and the sport cannot suffer.

    I suppose I should qualify my statement. What I meant was that if McGregor gets in and wins on points or a tko and our boxes Mayweather then that will damage the sport IMO.

    You and me both have been saying that boxing at this level requires years of training and crafting the art.

    If he gets in and lands a big punch, that's just a big punch. I think all this talk is fantasy really though as regardless of what McGregor lands I don't believe he knocks Mayweather out. And IMO he has no chance of out boxing him.


  • #3199
    hbhook
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭hbhook


    Floyd via DQ
    It would be truly shocking and I don't think I'd mind but I wouldn't fear for boxing. Canelo/GGG 24/7 airs on the same night. It may be that Joshua v Klitschko is headed to Vegas on Nov 11th. By then the 'Money Fight' will be a blurry memory.


  • #3200
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,483 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    Can you not accept that his skill/game plan may give him the KO chance? Can you not give credit that way? We are going from giving him no chance of landing a glove on Floyd to calling a win a fluke. That's sad.

    People use the word fluke. I wouldn't get upset with that description.....Educated folks can interpret it....

    Of course his skill/game plan give him the chance.

    I have already said that he is not some dummy. I also said on other posts about you just never know. A slight "mistake" here and there and a move here and there can result in a heavy shot landing.

    Anyway, back on topic. Let us say he gets the KO from whatever plan or situation presents itself, it still is nothing more than one man getting hit and knocked out. Yes, happens to be a global name who claims to be TBE, but so what?

    Boxing is still boxing and I'd still back my house on Conor getting obliterated by any half decent pro boxer.


  • #3201
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,483 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »
    I suppose I should qualify my statement. What I meant was that if McGregor gets in and wins on points or a tko and our boxes Mayweather then that will damage the sport IMO.

    You and me both have been saying that boxing at this level requires years of training and crafting the art.

    If he gets in and lands a big punch, that's just a big punch. I think all this talk is fantasy really though as regardless of what McGregor lands I don't believe he knocks Mayweather out. And IMO he has no chance of out boxing him.

    Wins on points?

    That would be a wtf moment.....

    Assuming of course it's a fair decision.....:P

    We are bordering real delusional territory with a fair points win.

    I mean it's a case of Conor being a great boxer that was hiding it from the world, Floyd being very very poor or a rotten decision......


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  • #3202
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    People use the word fluke. I wouldn't get upset with that description.....Educated folks can interpret it....

    Of course his skill/game plan give him the chance.

    I have already said that he is not some dummy. I also said on other posts about you just never know. A slight "mistake" here and there and a move here and there can result in a heavy shot landing.

    Anyway, back on topic. Let us say he gets the KO from whatever plan or situation presents itself, it still is nothing more than one man getting hit and knocked out. Yes, happens to be a global name who claims to be TBE, but so what?

    Boxing is still boxing and I'd still back my house on Conor getting obliterated by any half decent pro boxer.

    I dunno man.

    If Conor says he is going to knock him out inside four rounds, goes in and does it, you need to re-evaluate your opinion of him as a boxer.


  • #3203
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
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    Floyd via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    Wins on points?

    That would be a wtf moment.....

    Assuming of course it's a fair decision.....:P

    We are bordering real delusional territory with a fair points win.

    I mean it's a case of Conor being a great boxer that was hiding it from the world, Floyd being very very poor or a rotten decision......

    I agree its delusional territory I'm going to stop actually as it's ridiculous.


  • #3204
    walshb
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    I dunno man.

    If Conor says he is going to knock him out inside four rounds, goes in and does it, you need to re-evaluate your opinion of him as a boxer.

    Can you at least wait till I see this?


  • #3205
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
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    Floyd via DQ
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    I dunno man.

    If Conor says he is going to knock him out inside four rounds, goes in and does it, you need to re-evaluate your opinion of him as a boxer.

    Not if he gets murdered for 4 rounds and just manages to land a haymaker.


  • #3206
    Sweet Science
    Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    You are talking about something that hasnt happened .

    At the moment there shouldnt be any issue with people thinking Conor gets embarrassed in there


  • #3207
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,043 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Floyd via DQ
    Sweet Science wrote: »
    If Conors skill lands him the KO everyone will give him credit .

    From some of the posts on here, that I doubt...

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • #3208
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
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    Floyd via DQ
    everlast75 wrote: »
    From some of the posts on here, that I doubt...

    Why? Because boxing fans are taking a realist view of the fight?

    If McGregor goes in with a brilliant tactical plan and manages to KO Mayweather I think everyone here will give him his due credit.

    Same if he just lands a big punch. He'll get the credit for Ko'ing a boxer who previously has barely had a hand laid on him.


  • #3209
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    Can you at least wait till I see this?

    Of course, there are too many Ifs and Buts.


  • #3210
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,043 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Floyd via DQ
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »
    Why? Because boxing fans are taking a realist view of the fight?

    If McGregor goes in with a brilliant tactical plan and manages to KO Mayweather I think everyone here will give him his due credit.

    Same if he just lands a big punch. He'll get the credit for Ko'ing a boxer who previously has barely had a hand laid on him.

    If the unlikely occurs, I will be back here the day after to see...

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • #3211
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »
    Not if he gets murdered for 4 rounds and just manages to land a haymaker.

    That is true.


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