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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭Furzy


    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2008-lexus-gs300/16055040

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    Crazy to think that at less than ten years old this is worth under five grand. NCT to Jan 18, few weeks tax, €4750

    Why is it that 90% of GS300s under the 5k mark are either silver or black!!

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    So much nicer looking in red but this 2008 example is demanding a 3k premium compared to the silver one - way too much given that after June 2008 the tax is halved to €750.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,338 ✭✭✭mullingar


    wonski wrote: »
    That's an amazing car.

    Two front windows regulators gone. Could be expensive, could be cheap... probably not cheap, though.

    Good find regardless.

    Ebay has repair kits for those regulators for very small money. I'd wager the genuine fix is a complete motor/mechanism assembly that are a few hundred notes each


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,338 ✭✭✭mullingar


    Furzy wrote: »
    Why is it that 90% of GS300s under the 5k mark are either silver or black!!

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    So much nicer looking in red but this 2008 example is demanding a 3k premium compared to the silver one - way too much given that after June 2008 the tax is halved to €750.

    Only the hybrid version.

    Any car registered in the first 6 months of 2008 had the choice of cc or co2 rates, which ever was cheaper to allow old stock to clear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Casati


    wonski wrote: »
    That's an amazing car.

    Two front windows regulators gone. Could be expensive, could be cheap... probably not cheap, though.

    Good find regardless.

    That one would make a perfect taxi, the tax is irrelevant but it would still be fairly good on diesel and super comfy for the driver and passengers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,539 ✭✭✭jca


    Casati wrote: »
    That one would make a perfect taxi, the tax is irrelevant but it would still be fairly good on diesel and super comfy for the driver and passengers

    It's too old it can only be driven for a year, reliability for taxi work would be questionable too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭MuffinsDa


    mullingar wrote: »
    Ebay has repair kits for those regulators for very small money. I'd wager the genuine fix is a complete motor/mechanism assembly that are a few hundred notes each

    Surely there should be a few used ones knocking around from written off cars at this stage - depends on labour cost for replacement though.

    I'm not French or a specific fan of French cars (I currently drive a Saab and a Jag) but I think the old anecdote of "french car flakiness" only belong to the pub talk not a serious motoring forum. Modern French cars are not particularly less reliable than other modern cars, according to recent stats. Gone are the days of Megane II and Laguna II.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,102 ✭✭✭johndaman66


    MuffinsDa wrote: »
    Surely there should be a few used ones knocking around from written off cars at this stage - depends on labour cost for replacement though.

    I'm not French or a specific fan of French cars (I currently drive a Saab and a Jag) but I think the old anecdote of "french car flakiness" only belong to the pub talk not a serious motoring forum. Modern French cars are not particularly less reliable than other modern cars, according to recent stats. Gone are the days of Megane II and Laguna II.

    I'm not so sure if I'd agree and dismiss it as "pub talk".

    Funny you should mention gone are the days of the Megane II and Laguna II. I bought a 96 Megavan in 2002. Despite minding it well over the next few years of ownership it caused me a serious amount of heartache and cost. Ended up depending on lifts and bussing it a lot despite owning a car. Overall I would class it as an inferior product to any car that I have owned since and none of them were what you'd class as prestige products or fancy cars, rather every day run of the mill models. And its not that none of them ever gave me any trouble as some did.

    I recall having a conversation with someone at the time about how woeful the car was and them trying to convince me that the newer range of Renaults were superior products. Among that newer range would have being the Laguna II and the Megane II. Probably overall it was too soon to say he was right or wrong at that stage as proof of the pudding is not when the car is newly launched, rather a number of years down the line when problems manifest.

    While the C6 in hand might be an improvement on previous models as are French cars generally speaking I don't think things like window regulators giving up is helping their cause if they want to be taken serious from a reliability and longevity point of view as compared to other manufacturers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭Furzy


    MuffinsDa wrote: »
    Surely there should be a few used ones knocking around from written off cars at this stage

    ... highly unlikely - it's such a common problem that any functional ones will go very quickly.
    - depends on labour cost for replacement though.

    Yes - it's not a small job and can be fiddly and timeconsuming.
    I think the old anecdote of "french car flakiness" only belong to the pub talk not a serious motoring forum

    My comment was based on personal experience. I love the comfort of French cars and have endured their eccentricities in the past. A few years ago, after years of Saab ownership, I switched back to a C5 which was several years newer and lower mileage than any of my Saabs. I had more problems with it in 12 months than in over 15 years of Saabs. Those reliability indicators are skewed and based on cost of repairs so they don't reflect the smaller but numerous and very irritating problems like broken window regulators.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,539 ✭✭✭jca


    Furzy wrote: »
    ... highly unlikely - it's such a common problem that any functional ones will go very quickly.



    Yes - it's not a small job and can be fiddly and timeconsuming.



    My comment was based on personal experience. I love the comfort of French cars and have endured their eccentricities in the past. A few years ago, after years of Saab ownership, I switched back to a C5 which was several years newer and lower mileage than any of my Saabs. I had more problems with it in 12 months than in over 15 years of Saabs. Those reliability indicators are skewed and based on cost of repairs so they don't reflect the smaller but numerous and very irritating problems like broken window regulators.

    That's it exactly, nothing that will stop you on the side of the road but just drive you slowly insane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,338 ✭✭✭mullingar


    Agree that the megane 2 and laguna 2 were terrible, just like some German brands, their accountants got involved and cut too much costs and reliability suffered.

    Renault learnt their lesson, upped the quality and started to offer 5+ year warranties

    Roll on megane 3 and laguna 3, vastly improved, but reputation really killed off a lot of sales. Especially the laguna 3 which forced renault to discontinue it. Pity as it was a good car.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,890 ✭✭✭grogi


    mullingar wrote: »
    Roll on megane 3 and laguna 3, vastly improved, but reputation really killed off a lot of sales. Especially the laguna 3 which forced renault to discontinue it. Pity as it was a good car.

    You realise the world does not end where the coasts of Kent are, don't you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,321 ✭✭✭m17




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭MuffinsDa


    mullingar wrote: »
    Agree that the megane 2 and laguna 2 were terrible, just like some German brands, their accountants got involved and cut too much costs and reliability suffered.

    Renault learnt their lesson, upped the quality and started to offer 5+ year warranties

    Roll on megane 3 and laguna 3, vastly improved, but reputation really killed off a lot of sales. Especially the laguna 3 which forced renault to discontinue it. Pity as it was a good car.

    That's the point I was trying to make. Current generation of Renaults is pretty much as reliable as it gets compared to similar German and Japanese cars, and better than some. I had a Megane III for 5 years, came with 5 year warranty, ZERO problem, utterly reliable, but mind numbingly boring to drive despite having all the bells and whistles!

    I am not sure about groupe PSA cars but I wouldn't think they would suffer from Gremlins as much as they did in the 90s either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭bmwguy


    m17 wrote: »

    I'll go look at that car.
    Edit. Just saw no NCT since 2016. Red flag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭Truckermal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Truckermal wrote: »

    Looks flexible on the price too. I'd go look at it if it wasn't so far away.
    Asking 3750 Euros or nearest offer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,954 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    I wonder in 10 years time what cars would be included in this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,086 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    Truckermal wrote: »

    Alarm bells should be ringing re. the purposely hidden reg.

    Also no doubt buying from a place called "Trade Sales Kerry" means you can kiss any notion of a warranty goodbye!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,773 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    From looking at the other adverts the seller has I'd say they are a salvage/breakers yard too. Eyes wide open is my advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭Truckermal


    bazz26 wrote: »
    From looking at the other adverts the seller has I'd say they are a salvage/breakers yard too. Eyes wide open is my advice.

    It's only 30 mins from me so I might call for a look! My own GS might be going in here as I'm thinking about giving up my job and going back into construction so I will be driving 500kms per week!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Wonder can you tell from inspection and reading current or historic fault codes if the hybrid system is good or would it be a main dealer job to run a test?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,773 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Truckermal wrote: »
    It's only 30 mins from me so I might call for a look! My own GS might be going in here as I'm thinking about giving up my job and going back into construction so I will be driving 500kms per week!

    Worth going for a gander at anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭darragh o meara


    Would the hybrid system be worth much in terms of reducing running costs on these big engined Lexus's? Always believed they wouldn't be much use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Would the hybrid system be worth much in terms of reducing running costs on these big engined Lexus's? Always believed they wouldn't be much use.

    The big saving would be in stop/start driving in city traffic, on the motorway not so much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,890 ✭✭✭grogi


    Would the hybrid system be worth much in terms of reducing running costs on these big engined Lexus's? Always believed they wouldn't be much use.

    It is scar with V8 performance (0-60 in around 6 secs), but much more friendly economy... It's hybrid nature pays off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭Furzy


    Truckermal wrote: »

    Looks very low in the rear - new shocks needed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,890 ✭✭✭grogi


    Furzy wrote: »
    Looks very low in the rear - new shocks needed?

    What do shocks have to do with that?! Springs maybe, but shocks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭landmarkjohn


    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mazda-xedos-9/16085012

    Not sure if Mazda Xedos 9 makes it into Luxobarge, please remove if offended. Full disclosure, this is my brother in law car. I had one for six years and really liked it. This was Mazda's effort in the luxury segment and they used some really good materials on the interior.

    2.5 V6, leather, 6 CD, sunroof, folding mirrors, decent NCT and a nice bit of tax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,086 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    Lovely car, but he might struggle to achieve his asking price or near to it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭landmarkjohn


    Lovely car, but he might struggle to achieve his asking price or near to it.

    Agreed, thought it was a bit strong myself.


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