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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

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  • #2822
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    begbysback wrote: »
    The Indo article is spot on - Mc gregor is not even the best fighter in mma and has won this fight by using his showman antics - fair play to him


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  • #2823
    Ultimate Seduction
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    begbysback wrote:
    The Indo article is spot on - Mc gregor is not even the best fighter in mma and has won this fight by using his showman antics - fair play to him


    He is without a doubt the best mma fighter on the planet pound for pound. Demetrius Johnson can have 100 defences if he wants, he is beating absolute nobody's. John Jones has fought twice in 3 year, one of them an absolute stinker against an average OSP


  • #2824
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    begbysback wrote: »
    The Indo article is spot on - Mc gregor is not even the best fighter in mma and has won this fight by using his showman antics - fair play to him
    Hard to say, Aldo was seen as the p4p best and McGregor knocked him out in 13 seconds. Would probably say Jones myself but McGregor is right up there with a shout for no. 1.

    Still would have a long way to go to match the likes of Silva, gsp, etc though.


  • #2825
    ThinkProgress
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭ThinkProgress


    Floyd via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    Yes. 49-1...

    Like I have consistently said. Mayweather cannot "win" here.

    He is the one selling this crock of sh1t..

    He comes back and beats a legitimate-credible boxer he is 50-0...

    And it has eff all to do with liking Mayweather, as another poster mentioned..

    If this was Manny/Thurman/Garcia/Spence or any established pro boxer I'd apply the same rule..

    Say what you like about the guy walsh (and I don't really disagree with anything you've said above there)...

    But still, the man clearly has a plan....



  • #2826
    Ultimate Seduction
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    ThinkProgress wrote:
    Say what you like about the guy walsh (and I don't really disagree with anything you've said above there)...

    ThinkProgress wrote:
    But still, the man clearly has a plan....


    If Nike Addidas or Puma (No Reebok?) Offered him money he would throw the TMT gear in the bin.
    No major brand would touch a racist, homophoic, woman beating sociopath.


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  • #2827
    hbhook
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭hbhook


    Floyd via DQ
    Make money money make money monaay...I can't fault him in that sense.


  • #2828
    snowflaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Floyd via DQ
    https://twitter.com/latimespugmire/status/886976710217875457


  • #2829
    Jim Bob Scratcher
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭Jim Bob Scratcher


    Gamebred wrote: »
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    and yet he hasn't even defended 1 of those belts :rolleyes:


  • #2830
    dd972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972


    Floyd via DQ
    Perfect outcome would be both knocking each other out with one punch, they're as likeable as Chelsea and Rangers.


  • #2831
    zetalambda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 822 ✭✭✭zetalambda


    I'd love to see him fight Tyson. I'd pay to see that :D


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  • #2832
    ThinkProgress
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭ThinkProgress


    Floyd via DQ
    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    If Nike Addidas or Puma (No Reebok?) Offered him money he would throw the TMT gear in the bin.
    No major brand would touch a racist, homophoic, woman beating sociopath.

    Wouldn't it be a great old world, if no a$$holes were successful... if only the nice guys were allowed to succeed... ;)

    But, alas, we do not live in a perfect world. We live in a world were people like FM can actually make billions!!

    This is a world, where hypocrites will condemn his actions... but many of these same people will also buy his PPV, and play their part in continuing to make him successful and ever richer!!

    I have no doubt, that millions of people will continue to buy what he and his company produces in the future too... whether it's PPVs or sporting goods/equipment.

    When there is enough appeal (and/or money) involved... most people are very quick to forget their moral values and drop any pretence of "integrity"!!


  • #2833
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    Yes. 49-1...

    Like I have consistently said. Mayweather cannot "win" here.

    He is the one selling this crock of sh1t..

    He comes back and beats a legitimate-credible boxer he is 50-0...

    And it has eff all to do with liking Mayweather, as another poster mentioned..

    If this was Manny/Thurman/Garcia/Spence or any established pro boxer I'd apply the same rule..

    Look you cant have your cake and eat it. If you're willing to put him at 49-1 you have to be willing to put him at 50-0. Its that simple really.


  • #2834
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,498 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »
    Look you cant have your cake and eat it. If you're willing to put him at 49-1 you have to be willing to put him at 50-0. Its that simple really.

    No.

    In this case it does not work like that.

    I am setting the bar high here because Floyd is the con man-spoofer.

    Like I said several times, he cannot win here. All he is doing is getting his hand raised in the ring against a non pro boxer. For that he gets 0 from me.

    Should he lose he gets dissed. And that means I give him a loss. But that loss will be so much more magnified due to it being against a non pro boxer...

    Sorry, it's not me who cant's have my cake and eat it. It's Floyd!


  • #2835
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    No.

    In this case it does not work like that.

    I am setting the bar high here because Floyd is the con man-spoofer.

    Like I said several times, he cannot win here. All he is doing is getting his hand raised in the ring against a non pro boxer. For that he gets 0 from me.

    Should he lose he gets dissed. And that means I give him a loss. But that loss will be so much more magnified due to it being against a non pro boxer...

    Sorry, it's not me who cant's have my cake and eat it. It's Floyd!

    We'll just have to agree to disagree here, if your willing to count the loss in my opinion you simply have to count the win.

    I think this may lead to a Mayweather/PacMan II


  • #2836
    HigginsJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »
    Mayweather/PacMan II



  • #2837
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,498 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »
    We'll just have to agree to disagree here, if your willing to count the loss in my opinion you simply have to count the win.

    I think this may lead to a Mayweather/PacMan II

    Fair enough. But I assume you see my point here.

    In a nutshell Floyd is not getting any credit here. And that includes a win on his ledger.

    Same way if Man Utd were asking for three points because they beat a Dublin GAA 11 at Old Trafford.....no, they get 0 points for winning.

    Floyd has nothing to gain (apart from cash) and everything to lose as regards a legacy. Well, should he lose his legacy will kind of be mocked, and rightly so.

    BTW, I expect Floyd to win....Just in case anyone is asking...:)


  • #2838
    Too Tough To Die
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    Floyd via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    Fair enough. But I assume you see my point here.

    In a nutshell Floyd is not getting any credit here. And that includes a win on his ledger.

    Same way if Man Utd were asking for three points because they beat a Dublin GAA 11 at Old Trafford.....no, they get 0 points for winning.

    Floyd has nothing to gain (apart from cash) and everything to lose as regards a legacy. Well, should he lose his legacy will kind of be mocked, and rightly so.

    BTW, I expect Floyd to win....Just in case anyone is asking...:)

    Have you informed boxrec and the relevant boxing authorities to inform them that you will not be granting Floyd the W and moving him on to 50-0?


  • #2839
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    Fair enough. But I assume you see my point here.

    In a nutshell Floyd is not getting any credit here. And that includes a win on his ledger.

    Same way if Man Utd were asking for three points because they beat a Dublin GAA 11 at Old Trafford.....no, they get 0 points for winning.

    Floyd has nothing to gain (apart from cash) and everything to lose as regards a legacy. Well, should he lose his legacy will kind of be mocked, and rightly so.

    BTW, I expect Floyd to win....Just in case anyone is asking...:)

    I know what your are saying but I just think saying no credit for winning is a little disingenious.

    He is getting in the ring and boxing and anyone who does that deserves credit, IMO.


  • #2840
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,498 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Too Tough To Die wrote: »
    Have you informed boxrec and the relevant boxing authorities to inform them that you will not be granting Floyd the W and moving him on to 50-0?

    No.


  • #2841
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,498 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

    He is getting in the ring and boxing and anyone who does that deserves credit, IMO.

    I am talking about credit from a true boxing fan perspective. Not just he steps in the ring and fights X, here's your credit...I am looking a little deeper.

    But, "if I had to give credit" I'd give him 10 percent.


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  • #2842
    ThinkProgress
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭ThinkProgress


    Floyd via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    I am talking about credit from a true boxing fan perspective. Not just he steps in the ring and fights X, here's your credit...I am looking a little deeper.

    But, "if I had to give credit" I'd give him 10 percent.

    As a boxing fan, you either take the fight seriously or you don't...

    If you're prepared to give Floyd an official loss on his card, then you have to be prepared to give the win as well.

    Lots of boxing fans are boycotting this fight, and considering it as some kind of stupid exhibition... I have no problem with that...

    But it seems some people just can't make their mind up either way!

    For me it is a real fight... But it's a BS end-of-career exhibition for Floyd to go out on a high note and make a tonne of $$$...

    If I'm wrong, and Conor makes a fight of it... I have no problem holding my hands up and admitting I called it wrong!

    The result will go on floyd's card - and it should - but that doesn't mean it has to necessarily be given the same degree of respect as his other pro fights!!


  • #2843
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    snowflaker wrote: »
    Maybe he'll fight Ed Sheeran next - he pops up everywhere lately


    If it's strictly boxing and not this kicking/wrestling garbage then I would give Ed every chance.


  • #2844
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    ThinkProgress wrote: »

    The result will go on floyd's card - and it should - but that doesn't mean it has to necessarily be given the same degree of respect as his other pro fights!!

    Ok that I can understand completely. It shouldnt anywhere near the same degree of respect, its against a nobody in the boxing world and would be the epitomy of padding his numbers were he a younger fighter. But again your point about it just being an exhibition/end of career money maker is probably more apt as a description.


  • #2845
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,498 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    ThinkProgress wrote: »
    As a boxing fan, you either take the fight seriously or you don't...

    If you're prepared to give Floyd an official loss on his card, then you have to be prepared to give the win as well.

    Lots of boxing fans are boycotting this fight, and considering it as some kind of stupid exhibition... I have no problem with that...

    But it seems some people just can't make their mind up either way!

    For me it is a real fight... But it's a BS end-of-career exhibition for Floyd to go out on a high note and make a tonne of $$$...

    If I'm wrong, and Conor makes a fight of it... I have no problem holding my hands up and admitting I called it wrong!

    The result will go on floyd's card - and it should - but that doesn't mean it has to necessarily be given the same degree of respect as his other pro fights!!

    For me it is not a real fight, but I will still watch it, same way I would watch other events similar to it. So I don't have to take it serious. Like I said, I do not see this and will not be viewing it as a genuine boxing match. Not when one side is so clearly "handicapped."

    I am not against it..

    Never said I was. I did say that from a health and safety perspective I would not be comfortable signing off on it. That's it.

    I am not alone in not awarding a win to Floyd should his hand be raised at the end.

    I also add in my own view that should he lose I will add a loss to his ledger. Some may say that is an anomaly. I think in this circus like scenario I am allowed this anomaly.


  • #2846
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    He is without a doubt the best mma fighter on the planet pound for pound. Demetrius Johnson can have 100 defences if he wants, he is beating absolute nobody's. John Jones has fought twice in 3 year, one of them an absolute stinker against an average OSP

    Then how come some guy that McGregor called a no hoper( among other things) managed to beat him a short while back?


  • #2847
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    Then how come some guy that McGregor called a no hoper( among other things) managed to beat him a short while back?

    For the same reason that Demetrious Johnson would struggle at 145lbs (as class as he is, he would likely get bounced around up there), yet McGregor won the rematch.


  • #2848
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,498 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Billy86 wrote: »
    For the same reason that Demetrious Johnson would struggle at 145lbs (as class as he is, he would likely get bounced around up there), yet McGregor won the rematch.

    That is not a fair analogy really.

    Nate is not much bigger, and he is not some p4p beast...

    Johnson is real 125 lber. Small lad.

    It would be like Conor going to MW or beyond.


  • #2849
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Floyd via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    Fair enough. But I assume you see my point here.

    In a nutshell Floyd is not getting any credit here. And that includes a win on his ledger.

    Same way if Man Utd were asking for three points because they beat a Dublin GAA 11 at Old Trafford.....no, they get 0 points for winning.

    Floyd has nothing to gain (apart from cash) and everything to lose as regards a legacy. Well, should he lose his legacy will kind of be mocked, and rightly so.

    BTW, I expect Floyd to win....Just in case anyone is asking...:)

    That's just the thing - this is only about money, both floyd and Conor will win by showing up - we're talking tens of millions, legacy becomes irrelevant with enough zeros at the end of the paycheck.


  • #2850
    Ultimate Seduction
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    McGregor won a fight at 145, 155 and 170 in the space of 11 months. Find me another MAA fighter who has done this. Nate is much much bigger than Conor. Conor fighting Nate at 170 is like Johnson fighting Aldo, same weight gap.


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  • #2851
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,498 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    begbysback wrote: »
    That's just the thing - this is only about money, both floyd and Conor will win by showing up - we're talking tens of millions, legacy becomes irrelevant with enough zeros at the end of the paycheck.

    His legacy may be irrelevant, but it will still be mocked if he loses to a novice pro. It can't be but mocked.


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