Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

Outlaw Pete

Floyd via DQ

https://twitter.com/thenotoriousmma/status/883507254896545792

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

Floyd via DQ

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

https://twitter.com/thenotoriousmma/status/883507254896545792

Would sort of be poetic justice if Mayweather finishes McGregor's career with posts like that from Conor.

Your right on your comments regarding 12 rounds of punishment walshb, and I know you've said it from the start the sanctioning authority will take alot of heat if something bad happens to McGregor.

begbysback

Floyd via DQ

Not a hope of this going as far as serious damage - the referee will be well versed before the fight, and will have Conor outta there sharpishly if he is taking a constant barrage of punches, which is the most likely outcome - kinda adds more value to betting on a stoppage

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

begbysback wrote: »

Not a hope of this going as far as serious damage - the referee will be well versed before the fight, and will have Conor outta there sharpishly if he is taking a constant barrage of punches, which is the most likely outcome - kinda adds more value to betting on a stoppage

But the fact remains that a non boxer still may have to take a barrage of punches....and what is serious damage? You can't say by simply looking at a man. It's what is happening inside his head. Every head shot could be causing serious damage. That is how serious and dangerous pro boxing is.

Whether the referee stops it or not (and I think he/Conor's corner will if he is getting beaten up/hurt) it still doesn't prevent Conor from suffering or worse.....

And what if it is a 12 rds fight where there are no "dangerous" moments or "barrages," but just steady and clear shots being landed here and there. That too is just as dangerous over 12 rds.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

Conor via DQ

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Would sort of be poetic justice if Mayweather finishes McGregor's career with posts like that from Conor.

Your right on your comments regarding 12 rounds of punishment walshb, and I know you've said it from the start the sanctioning authority will take alot of heat if something bad happens to McGregor.

K

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

Let's put a "safe/conservative" figure on clean head shots.

If Floyd lands 10 per rd, not a whole lot, that is 120 or so head shots if the fights lasts 12 rds.

I hope to god Conor is safe here.

Floyd is not hitman Hearns, but maybe that would be better for Conor. Clean knocked out may be safer than a steady pasting from Floyd, who can hit snappy enough.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

Floyd via DQ

walshb wrote: »

But the fact remains that a non boxer still may have to take a barrage of punches....and what is serious damage? You can't say by simply looking at a man. It's what is happening inside his head. Every head shot could be causing serious damage. That is how serious and dangerous pro boxing is.

Whether the referee stops it or not (and I think he/Conor's corner will if he is getting beaten up/hurt) it still doesn't prevent Conor from suffering or worse.....

And what if it is a 12 rds fight where there are no "dangerous" moments or "barrages," but just steady and clear shots being landed here and there. That too is just as dangerous over 12 rds.

I was just about to ask the same thing. All joking aside alot of MMA and casual fans seem to think there is no chance that Mayweather hurts McGregor. It's ignorant at best.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

I was just about to ask the same thing. All joking aside alot of MMA and casual fans seem to think there is no chance that Mayweather hurts McGregor. It's ignorant at best.

Big time ignorant....

Floyd can snap a head back sharpish. That's all one needs to know..

Is he hurt is he not hurt is just pure bollix.....

Define hurt.....

Sweet Science

Conor on points

Some of the top MMA coaches were interviewedd about this . Its actually pretty good

http://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/20089304/how-top-mma-trainers-prepare-conor-mcgregor-floyd-mayweather

normanoffside

Floyd via DQ

begbysback wrote: »

Not a hope of this going as far as serious damage - the referee will be well versed before the fight, and will have Conor outta there sharpishly if he is taking a constant barrage of punches, which is the most likely outcome - kinda adds more value to betting on a stoppage

I think Floyd by TKO is increasingly looking like the value bet here. Available at 5/2 in places.

begbysback

Floyd via DQ

walshb wrote: »

But the fact remains that a non boxer still may have to take a barrage of punches....and what is serious damage? You can't say by simply looking at a man. It's what is happening inside his head. Every head shot could be causing serious damage. That is how serious and dangerous pro boxing is.

Whether the referee stops it or not (and I think he/Conor's corner will if he is getting beaten up/hurt) it still doesn't prevent Conor from suffering or worse.....

And what if it is a 12 rds fight where there are no "dangerous" moments or "barrages," but just steady and clear shots being landed here and there. That too is just as dangerous over 12 rds.

He's is a non boxer but tbf he is used to getting hit, albeit not repetitively in the head.

If Conor lasts 12 rounds it will be because he has ran away for the entire fight - either he lands the miracle shot, or he is taking a beating and it will be stopped.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

begbysback wrote: »

He's is a non boxer but tbf he is used to getting hit, albeit not repetitively in the head.

If Conor lasts 12 rounds it will be because he has ran away for the entire fight - either he lands the miracle shot, or he is taking a beating and it will be stopped.

I think there could be other scenarios where he can last 12. Doesn't have to be only running.

Plus, are you implying, by saying this that Floyd could not hunt him down and take him out because he is "running?"

If Floyd isn't that bothered or eager, sure, he may let him run for 12 whilst he loses the fight. But if Floyd really wants to end the fight then I don't see a running Conor preventing that.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

Floyd via DQ

walshb wrote: »

I think there could be other scenarios where he can last 12. Doesn't have to be only running.

Plus, are you implying, by saying this that Floyd could not hunt him down and take him out because he is "running?"

If Floyd isn't that bothered or eager, sure, he may let him run for 12 whilst he loses the fight. But if Floyd really wants to end the fight then I don't see a running Conor preventing that.

If Mayweather is truly done after this fight then he might want to go out on a high by knocking out Mcgregor but if there is even a hint of him making money on a rematch then surely he lets McGregor stay somewhat competitive.

normanoffside

normanoffside wrote: »

I think Floyd by TKO is increasingly looking like the value bet here. Available at 5/2 in places.

Where? Does TKO count as "technical decision"?

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

Deleted User wrote: »

Where? Does TKO count as "technical decision"?

No, technical knock out. Not a clean KO.

Although some times a fighter is clean knocked out and the referee does not wait until a count is given. This then goes down as TKO.

TKO is mainly used for a referee or corner stoppage due to domination.

walshb

walshb wrote: »

No, technical knock out. Not a clean KO.

Although some times a fighter is clean knocked out and the referee does not wait until a count is given. This then goes down as TKO.

TKO is mainly used for a referee or corner stoppage due to domination.

It's covered in two categories so, I was looking at the KO/TKO option more.

normanoffside

Floyd via DQ

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's covered in two categories so, I was looking at the KO/TKO option more.

Go to oddschecker and look for 'exact method of victory'

Ultimate Seduction

Jesus lads it's not a prime Mike Tyson he's fighting at all. Mayweather hasn't the power to hurt him and an accumulation of patty slaps won't hurt him either.

Its gonna be either a 12 round dance off or a 5 round war, either way I don't think Conor will be hurt even if stopped with a sweet one

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Jesus lads it's not a prime Mike Tyson he's fighting at all. Mayweather hasn't the power to hurt him and an accumulation of patty slaps won't hurt him either.

Its gonna be either a 12 round dance off or a 5 round war, either way I don't think Conor will be hurt even if stopped with a sweet one

This is what educated boxing enthusiasts and MMA enthusiasts find odd....this certainty that Floyd cannot hurt Conor...

Billy86

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Jesus lads it's not a prime Mike Tyson he's fighting at all. Mayweather hasn't the power to hurt him and an accumulation of patty slaps won't hurt him either.

Its gonna be either a 12 round dance off or a 5 round war, either way I don't think Conor will be hurt even if stopped with a sweet one

If a teenager kept punching you in the head for 30 minutes it would hurt, a lot. Never mind a pro boxer, sore/ageing hands or not.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

Billy86 wrote: »

If a teenager kept punching you in the head for 30 minutes it would hurt, a lot. Never mind a pro boxer, sore/ageing hands or not.

And I think this view is most ill-informed of all the views regarding this event.

begbysback

Floyd via DQ

walshb wrote: »

I think there could be other scenarios where he can last 12. Doesn't have to be only running.

Plus, are you implying, by saying this that Floyd could not hunt him down and take him out because he is "running?"

If Floyd isn't that bothered or eager, sure, he may let him run for 12 whilst he loses the fight. But if Floyd really wants to end the fight then I don't see a running Conor preventing that.

Floyd is primarily a counter puncher, Conor heavy handed will surely look to plant his feet and land the big one.

Can't see floyd chasing too hard until he sees Conor getting tired - or feels he has hurt him with a jab or combo. No need to be risky as Conor is unlikely to win a round.

My prediction would be that Conor gets hurt within the very first exchanges - pretty much another version of "willie Big Bang Casey v Rigondeaux"

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

Floyd via DQ

walshb wrote: »

And I think this view is most ill-informed of all the views regarding this event.

Exactly what we were saying earlier it's just ignorant to think that Mayweather can't hurt McGregor. Seems to be a rather universal view from the fanboys and casual observers.

Billy86

walshb wrote: »

And I think this view is most ill-informed of all the views regarding this event.

How so?

My point is Floyd is so many streets ahead of him that he wouldn't even need much power in his punches to do serious damage because he'll likely be able to land at will reasonably early on (and moreso as the further it goes on). But he's a professional boxer, even if he's not Canelo in that respect he still knows how to do a lot of damage with his fists.

Sweet Science

Conor on points

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Exactly what we were saying earlier it's just ignorant to think that Mayweather can't hurt McGregor. Seems to be a rather universal view from the fanboys and casual observers.

Sure Floyd runs . When Conor literally ran away from Diaz a few times in their 2nd fight . Literally .

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

Billy86 wrote: »

How so?

My point is Floyd is so many streets ahead of him that he wouldn't even need much power in his punches to do serious damage. But he's a professional boxer, even if he's not Canelo in that respect he still knows how to do a lot of damage with his fists.

Are you meant to be quoting me here?

I think not.

I was replying to you in agreement. I realize that it could be seen as confusing...

see my post 2951

Billy86

walshb wrote: »

Are you meant to be quoting me here?

I think not.

I was replying to you in agreement. I realize that it could be confusing...

Ah, got ya! All good.

normanoffside

Floyd via DQ

I got Mayweather by TKO at 11/4 on William hill. Too good to turn down!

Billy86

Christ, that is certainly tempting. I'd imagine it will shorten a -lot- a month from now.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

Floyd via DQ

normanoffside wrote: »

I got Mayweather by TKO at 11/4 on William hill. Too good to turn down!

It's a nice price. Great profit for about 12 mins work