Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

Outlaw Pete

Floyd via DQ

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

If he says he was 176 leaving his room, I believe him.

Ah would ya stop :P

noc1980

Wayne McCullough saying he's reached out to Conor to help but heard nothing back. I know Steve Collins has also said he wanted to help Conor and that he and his son had a game plan specifically for Conor.
Rejecting the assistance of those 2 Irish boxing legends pretty much confirms that Paulie's been brought in to settle a score.

Frank Bullitt

Floyd via DQ

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Ah would ya stop :P

Well he definitely isn't 200lbs anyway.

Probably 180 give or take.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

Floyd via DQ

Gintonious wrote: »

Well he definitely isn't 200lbs anyway.

Probably 180 give or take.

If even, closer to what Diaz says he was than this mythical 200.

begbysback

Floyd via DQ

Paulie M makes good sense as a sparring partner - good speed and boxing skills, has boxed at the top over a long period, unlikely to hurt Mc Gregor - if he does hurt him then Conor is fcuked

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

noc1980 wrote: »

Wayne McCullough saying he's reached out to Conor to help but heard nothing back. I know Steve Collins has also said he wanted to help Conor and that he and his son had a game plan specifically for Conor.
Rejecting the assistance of those 2 Irish boxing legends pretty much confirms that Paulie's been brought in to settle a score.

Come fight night Conor will liklely have 12 alternates in the ring to jump in each rd...still get well beaten mind you.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman

Floyd via DQ

walshb wrote: »

Come fight night Conor will liklely have 12 alternates in the ring to jump in each rd...still get well beaten mind you.

well beaten , but wont count as a win, right? :D:D

xtal191

Floyd via KO-TKO

Nate weighing in at 155/156 against Micael Johnson



Nate 45lbs heavier against Mcgregor??



Absolute bull**** he was close to 200lbs

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

well beaten , but wont count as a win, right? :D:D

I'd give his record as 61-0 if he managed that...

HigginsJ

So we have totally moved off the Mayweather/McGregor farce to discussing McGregors MMA career and staus..... in the boxing forum :rolleyes:

LollipopJimmy

Bringing Steve Collins into the fold looses them the moral high ground surrounding hitting women

Ultimate Seduction

Floyd via DQ

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Khabib has beat 1 (ONE) ranked opponent in his entire career. Conor knocked out p4p no 1 in 13 seconds. Beat the no2 contender at 145 in 2 rounds. Absolutely destroyed the lightweight champion too.

Khabib beat RDA who was ranked at the time and also beat Michael Johnson who is ranked.

Tiriel

HigginsJ wrote: »

So we have totally moved off the Mayweather/McGregor farce to discussing McGregors MMA career and staus..... in the boxing forum :rolleyes:

I see your point, but I for one think it's interesting to see the form and discussion around CMG which I otherwise wouldn't necessarily go to MMA forum to read. It is a thread for CMG v Mayweather.. no harm in reading about both opponents in this case.

ThinkProgress

Floyd via DQ

Just a quick question for any of the McGregor fans, who think the power in Conor's left hand can rock Mayweather (if he catches him)...

Do you guys honestly think that McGregor hits as hard or harder than Canelo? (who couldn't hurt Floyd in their fight)

Personally, I don't think McGregor possesses enough raw power to KO Mayweather.

I think his hardest punch will have even less KO potential, than it did against Diaz...

Everyone is hoping McGregor can catch Floyd with that sweet left... that's the big game plan... but very few people are asking the question, what if it's not powerful enough to do the job?? Most people just assume he has enough power...

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

ThinkProgress wrote: »

Just a quick question for any of the McGregor fans, who think the power in Conor's left hand can rock Mayweather (if he catches him)...

Do you guys honestly think that McGregor hits as hard or harder than Canelo? (who couldn't hurt Floyd in their fight)

Personally, I don't think McGregor possesses enough raw power to KO Mayweather.

I think his hardest punch will have even less KO potential, than it did against Diaz...

Everyone is hoping McGregor can catch Floyd with that sweet left... that's the big game plan... but very few people are asking the question, what if it's not powerful enough to do the job?? Most people just assume he has enough power...

It's a bit pointless because Canelo didn't land all that hard and clean on Floyd

If Canelo connected on Floyd like he did Khan I think Floyd is knocked out...

The point should be more can Conor even hit Mayweather clean at all, with any hand. By clean I mean flush and with intent. A non jab punch....

And I am with you as regards what happens should Conor land a sweet and clean shot. Floyd could well take it. But you also need to accept that innocuous shots can KO men. They don't have to be dynamite. The human body and physiology is a grey area.

I mentioned a sweetly landed clean body shot may be Conor's best chance should he get the shot in....

ThinkProgress

Floyd via DQ

walshb wrote: »

It's a bit pointless because Canelo didn't land all that hard and clean on Floyd

If Canelo connected on Floyd like he did Khan I think Floyd is knocked out...

The point should be more can Conor even hit Mayweather clean at all, with any hand. By clean I mean flush and with intent. A non jab punch....

And I am with you as regards what happens should Conor land a sweet and clean shot. Floyd could well take it. But you also need to accept that innocuous shots can KO men. They don't have to be dynamite. The human body and physiology is a grey area.

I mentioned a sweetly landed clean body shot may be Conor's best chance should he get the shot in....

Usually those other scenarios can be explained by fighter fatigue or perhaps a clean liver shot for example...

Mayweather's conditioning is exceptional. I just don't see him being downed by anything other than one of the most perfect and most powerful KO punches ever landed.

And I think it is an important question to ask, if McGregor possesses the necessary power to achieve this..!?

I don't think he does, personally!

Frank Bullitt

Floyd via DQ

ThinkProgress wrote: »

Just a quick question for any of the McGregor fans, who think the power in Conor's left hand can rock Mayweather (if he catches him)...

Do you guys honestly think that McGregor hits as hard or harder than Canelo? (who couldn't hurt Floyd in their fight)

Personally, I don't think McGregor possesses enough raw power to KO Mayweather.

I think his hardest punch will have even less KO potential, than it did against Diaz...

Everyone is hoping McGregor can catch Floyd with that sweet left... that's the big game plan... but very few people are asking the question, what if it's not powerful enough to do the job?? Most people just assume he has enough power...

I always grimace at that shot.

Conor of course has KO power, but not KO power like Canelo.

begbysback

Floyd via DQ

We're still waiting for Khan to get up

Jim Bob Scratcher

Embarrassing stuff

WMP

Draw

I posted this in the MMA forum but perhaps should have posted it here as I'm interested to hear what boxing fans and experts have.

I'm wondering if many people think or are worried that McGregor will suffer a career ending and/or possible life threatening beating?

Logic dictates that Floyd will land a lot of shots (body and head) if he's really up for a fight. It would be amazing to see McGregor get a fluke knock out but more realistically he's going to take a lot of punishment. There just has to be a world of difference in their boxing ability and anyone thinking otherwise is fooling themselves - in my opinion.

McGregor is cocky enough to think he has a chance but he could be in for a serious reality check. Hoping for him it doesn't end with him being stretchered off but it really could.

meepins

I expect the medical staff and referee to be extra vigilant against something like that happening. There's no way his camp are going to let him get torched either in the hope of a hail mary victory.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

WMP, I am one who has said from the start that this should not be sanctioned from a health and safety aspect.

Floyd goes in to commit fully and he either KOs Conor cleanish, or he beats up steadily until a stoppage.

That or Floyd "takes it easy" and allows Conor some freedom and spares him a clear-hurtful beating.

Subcomandante Marcos

Floyd via DQ

If he's getting lit up and not defending I'd expect John Kavanagh to throw in the towel if the ref doesn't get in between them to end it first.

section4

WMP wrote: »

I posted this in the MMA forum but perhaps should have posted it here as I'm interested to hear what boxing fans and experts have.

I'm wondering if many people think or are worried that McGregor will suffer a career ending and/or possible life threatening beating?

Logic dictates that Floyd will land a lot of shots (body and head) if he's really up for a fight. It would be amazing to see McGregor get a fluke knock out but more realistically he's going to take a lot of punishment. There just has to be a world of difference in their boxing ability and anyone thinking otherwise is fooling themselves - in my opinion.

McGregor is cocky enough to think he has a chance but he could be in for a serious reality check. Hoping for him it doesn't end with him being stretchered off but it really could.

Don't you worry about that
McGregor will not take very much punishment
One he realises he can't win he will find a way out
He is in this for money, that's it

wonderfullife

Conor via KO-TKO

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Nate Diaz has never been 185 in his life, never mind in the first fight with Conor.

To claim he cut and rehydrated 15lbs is ridiculous.

Ok apart from all the times he personally said he walks around in excess of 190 and 195lbs? Apart from the time Cesar Gracie thought he was gonna die because of the weight he was cutting?

Apart from the time he started getting ripped to fight Rory Markham at welterweight and said he was walking around in the high 180's?



Apart from the time he missed weight by 5.6lbs against RDA in 2014 after attempting to cut from 185lbs and said he let himself get out of shape??

Apart from the time he explained his nutrition was bad and he lets himself bloat up over 190lbs in between fights?

http://mmajunkie.com/2010/01/nate-diaz-clarifies-weight-cutting-remarks-sees-future-at-lightweight-and-welterweight

You're flat wrong to say "he's never been 185lb in his life". Just wrong.

There's not a prayer he was anything less than 10lbs heavier than Conor in the rematch.

Most lightweights are 185-190lbs outside camp.

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

You mean when your man asks if he weighs 200lbs and he says "ah, yeah" and then starts laughing?

Or the time when someone else asked him what he's weighing the week before the second fight and he says "179... no, 200, I'm 200lbs right?".

That comment was from Ricky Funez and Nate was like "yeah but check out my abs". They were just taking the p1ss.

He wasn't 200lbs.

begbysback

Floyd via DQ

Yea but it's still Nate Diaz

ThinkProgress

Floyd via DQ

@Wonderfullwife

Seriously dude, who really gives a cr@p??

This isn't your weight watchers meeting... :P Diaz was a few pounds heavier. So what?? He's also a few nickles light of a dime, and his reputation heavily outweighs his actual fighting record.

Conor is considered the far more skilled fighter. If he really is as great as some people on here suggest, then he should not have struggled so badly in two fights against a guy who is nothing more than a tough journeyman!

And as the picture I posted a while back shows, Conor has a similar sized frame to GSP... and he appears to have no trouble putting on lean mass, when required...

I can't imagine he would have any issues fighting at welterweight, purely from a weight perspective.

Whether or not he would be good enough to dominate in that weight class, without his punches carrying as much force...?? That's the real question!

But it's not always about size either. Floyd will be the smaller man on Aug 26... However, I don't see Conor's power being much of a problem for an athlete and boxer of Floyd's calibre. (assuming he can even catch him)

For me, a lot of the fighters in the UFC are not very impressive as athletes. And this has a huge bearing on their ability to absorb heavy shots, without getting KO'd.

The skill levels may be high, but imo MMA conditioning needs to evolve a lot more... which I'm sure it will do as the sport grows and gets bigger!

That's not taking anything away from Conor's performances. You can only beat who's put in front of you. And he has done that. (And in many cases very impressively)

But elite boxers, like Floyd, are supremely conditioned for their sport... as you can imagine with the sport of boxing being so old, the understanding of the conditioning elements is a great deal more advanced than MMA!!

Conor is one of the better athletes in the UFC... But I think you guys are in for a major shock, when he starts moving around that ring with an elite boxer.

Even at 40, Floyd will have the ability to drown Conor with his superior workrate. I see Conor being very badly gassed out, even after just one round of this fight.

yourdeadwright

Floyd via DQ

Serious question is what boxing board is the fight under ? Is it WBC,WBO or someone else ?
Is it an exhibition or will it count on there official records ?

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Serious question is what boxing board is the fight under ? Is it WBC,WBO or someone else ?
Is it an exhibition or will it count on there official records ?

NSAC sanctioned this as far as I know...

The other issue is the duration. It's 12 rds as far as I know.

Where do they pull this sh1t from?

Even if Conor makes it 12 rds and loses every rd in anyway a clear fashion, the man could end up taking a lot of unnecessary punishment, and dangerously so.

Fed up hearing the excuses that he's an adult and he competes in MMA. So what.

This is not MMA. This could be steady head trauma for 36 minutes.

weldoninhio

Floyd via DQ

walshb wrote: »

NSAC sanctioned this as far as I know...

The other issue is the duration. It's 12 rds as far as I know.

Where do they pull this sh1t from?

Even if Conor makes it 12 rds and loses every rd in anyway a clear fashion, the man could end up taking a lot of unnecessary punishment, and dangerously so.

Fed up hearing the excuses that he's an adult and he competes in MMA. So what.

This is not MMA. This could be steady head trauma for 36 minutes.

Said from the start NSAC could have blood on their hands.