Lock, Stock and Chitchat a Seacht

Farmer_3650 · 11-07-2017 05:59PM

jimini0 wrote: »

Hopefully it was somebody local. They will have to move out of castlebar for a few weeks

It's all really locals that go into it anyway.

whelan2 · 11-07-2017 08:15PM

Cow and calf health inspection on Thursday , that's me busy tomorrow....

Limestone Cowboy · 11-07-2017 08:23PM

carrollsno1 wrote: »

Went for a drive yesterday amazing scenery

Looks class, one country I'd love to go to. Still a bit sorry I didn't go out there for a silage season when I was younger.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 11-07-2017 09:15PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Cow and calf health inspection on Thursday , that's me busy tomorrow....

What's that for, W2?

Kevhog1988 · 11-07-2017 09:24PM

Working on a farm in the scottish borders this week, The farm is let to a tenant by an english lord. The farmer told me he pays £10 per acre for marginal land and £40 an acre for silage land. Reckons they cant get people to rent?

whelan2 · 11-07-2017 09:24PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

What's that for, W2?

Apparently I was randomly selected by the department of ag for this inspection.... at least they gave me some notice. He will look at cows and condition score them. Look at housing etc. Then at records and movements.

Hard Knocks · 11-07-2017 10:03PM

Anyone recommend a CH bull for a PB PTExMZT cow.
Had mostly Bulls
PG / Dovea

Advised Doon or Jasper & GPD if PG
Starting to doubt

charolais0153 · 11-07-2017 10:08PM

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Anyone recommend a CH bull for a PB PTExMZT cow.
Had mostly Bulls
PG / Dovea

Advised Doon or Jasper & GPD if PG
Starting to doubt

Is she a big cow, is she shapely

Hard Knocks · 11-07-2017 10:17PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

Is she a big cow, is she shapely

From what I remember she's a good size (medium to tall). Wasn't greatly muscled R-U.

charolais0153 · 11-07-2017 10:20PM

Hard Knocks wrote: »

From what I remember she's a good size (medium to tall). Wasn't greatly muscled R-U.

Cxy I'd usr

Hard Knocks · 11-07-2017 10:25PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

Cxy I'd usr

I'm hesitant on him, there was a few cases this way a few year back with calves off him having problems with tongue

pedigree 6 · 11-07-2017 10:27PM

Yee haw. So who's going to the Wisconsin Farm Technology Days 2017 in Kewaunee County this year?

It's a 3 day show and started today. It's the largest show in Wisconsin and one of the largest in the U.S.

It's like the ploughing except everyone goes around in golf carts or quads.
(That may not be true at all).:p

http://www.wearegreenbay.com/farm-tech-days/farm-technology-days-2017-starts-in-kewaunee-county/762788742

http://www.wearegreenbay.com/farmtechdays

whelan2 · 12-07-2017 09:45AM

Some amount of cars heading south on the motorway. Must be getting out of the north for the 12th of July

carrollsno1 · 12-07-2017 09:51AM

whelan2 wrote: »

Some amount of cars heading south on the motorway. Must be getting out of the north for the 12th of July

Know a few nordies out here in nz tis mad the way they talked about the catholics back home today as well as missing out on the bonfires this year but still if we needed them tomorrow for anything theyd be there to help us likewise id be there to helo them too though tis quare the way things go

pedigree 6 · 12-07-2017 10:15AM

whelan2 wrote: »

Some amount of cars heading south on the motorway. Must be getting out of the north for the 12th of July

Quick get the drum out!;)

I have a relation who's husband would be marching and she brings the children down to Wexford for a few days when it's on.

Odelay · 12-07-2017 10:20AM

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Yee haw. So who's going to the Wisconsin Farm Technology Days 2017 in Kewaunee County this year?

It's a 3 day show and started today. It's the largest show in Wisconsin and one of the largest in the U.S.

It's like the ploughing except everyone goes around in golf carts or quads.
(That may not be true at all).:p

http://www.wearegreenbay.com/farm-tech-days/farm-technology-days-2017-starts-in-kewaunee-county/762788742

http://www.wearegreenbay.com/farmtechdays

Ha! 8 dollars in, under 12 free. Tis a long way from the ploughing.

MickeyShtyles · 12-07-2017 10:23AM

What dreams are made of.....

pedigree 6 · 12-07-2017 10:26AM

Odelay wrote: »

Ha! 8 dollars in, under 12 free. Tis a long way from the ploughing.

Different culture.

One is donating an open farm and beef.
The other is using it as a business and a means to an end.

God bless Ireland.

bogman_bass · 12-07-2017 10:43AM

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Anyone recommend a CH bull for a PB PTExMZT cow.
Had mostly Bulls
PG / Dovea

Advised Doon or Jasper & GPD if PG
Starting to doubt

TZT and have an easy calving bull that will be easy sold even if it isn't for top money.

patsy_mccabe · 12-07-2017 03:25PM

Did the suckler calves with pouron today. Have them in 3 places. Have yard/crushes in 2 places. The last 2 calves were in a field with a half finished crush and loading pen. Managed to do the 2 in the field. Dead chuffed with myself. I was like a cheetah trying to get in close to it's prey.

kowtow · 12-07-2017 04:05PM

The below is from today's Independent. Whilst I sympathise completely with the farmer who has lost stock, and would support him absolutely if he shot a dog running, he has - on the face of it - left himself open to action by the dog owner and is unlikely to do much for the image of farmers with the public.

"I shot another dog here last week. He was in the field. As he left, I called him back and got him in a trailer and shot him. There were two dogs involved in the most recent attack because I saw two sets of paw prints in the muck."

http://www.independent.ie/business/farming/sheep/pig-ignorant-dog-owner-didnt-pay-one-cent-towards-13000-of-sheep-his-dog-killed-35915533.html

ganmo · 12-07-2017 05:30PM

I'd be standing right beside him too, he gave the dog owners ample chance to do the right thing.

BUT

He should never have shot the dog in the trailer, if he had managed to get it into the trailer the warden should of been called.

Bullocks · 12-07-2017 05:34PM

kowtow wrote: »

The below is from today's Independent. Whilst I sympathise completely with the farmer who has lost stock, and would support him absolutely if he shot a dog running, he has - on the face of it - left himself open to action by the dog owner and is unlikely to do much for the image of farmers with the public.

http://www.independent.ie/business/farming/sheep/pig-ignorant-dog-owner-didnt-pay-one-cent-towards-13000-of-sheep-his-dog-killed-35915533.html

It's a tough one , I saw two dogs chasing the sheep one night last year and my blood was up . Went down the garden and they ran straight up to be petted , I caught one and put him in the trailer but the other lad legged it then when he heard his mate trying to get out . One minute you would love to shoot but when they are obviously cute pets then it makes it very hard . The owner said they wouldn't be in again and in fairness they haven't been but they wouldn't get the second chance either ...

kowtow · 12-07-2017 05:37PM

ganmo wrote: »

I'd be standing right beside him too, he gave the dog owners ample chance to do the right thing.

BUT

He should never have shot the dog in the trailer, if he had managed to get it into the trailer the warden should of been called.

I thought that was a different dog? I'm not sure if they offer it but the IFA should help with his costs to sue the owner of the earlier dog, not a complicated thing under the circumstances.

The whole area needs a lot more work IMO from every side, but need to be careful not to be seen to be exacting vengeance - and certainly not giving newspaper interviews about it.

The man in red and black · 12-07-2017 05:47PM

kowtow wrote: »

The whole area needs a lot more work IMO from every side, but need to be careful not to be seen to be exacting vengeance - and certainly not giving newspaper interviews about it.

Nail on the head there. He could have just said the dog was shot on his land and left it at that. Explaining he had it restrained in a trailer is only antagonizing the other side. I'm not in favour of dogs being shot btw but I have had to attend sheep post dog-attack several times and if it is the sheep or the dog I can fully agree with the farmers point of view.

ganmo · 12-07-2017 06:01PM

kowtow wrote: »

I thought that was a different dog? I'm not sure if they offer it but the IFA should help with his costs to sue the owner of the earlier dog, not a complicated thing under the circumstances.

The whole area needs a lot more work IMO from every side, but need to be careful not to be seen to be exacting vengeance - and certainly not giving newspaper interviews about it.

The second last paragraph starts with 'I shot another dog...'

Most of the dogs that attack here come from a walkway, the next dog is getting his collar nailed to the keep dogs on lead sign

Username John · 12-07-2017 06:24PM

kowtow wrote: »

The below is from today's Independent. Whilst I sympathise completely with the farmer who has lost stock, and would support him absolutely if he shot a dog running, he has - on the face of it - left himself open to action by the dog owner and is unlikely to do much for the image of farmers with the public.

http://www.independent.ie/business/farming/sheep/pig-ignorant-dog-owner-didnt-pay-one-cent-towards-13000-of-sheep-his-dog-killed-35915533.html

It's very easy to talk Kowtow - the dog owning people don't care to be honest... if they think farmers might shoot their dog, maybe it will make them make think twice about letting them roam free...

Dogs are a problem that are getting worse all the time, I would be in favour of a lot more shootings to be honest...

Buford T. Justice XIX · 12-07-2017 06:35PM

ganmo wrote: »

I'd be standing right beside him too, he gave the dog owners ample chance to do the right thing.

BUT

He should never have shot the dog in the trailer, if he had managed to get it into the trailer the warden should of been called.

I don't know, ganmo. While calling the dog warden is the right thing to do in that situation, my experiences with the dog wardens round here would have me agreeing with the farmer in that article. The best I could say about the ones I have had occasion to meat is they are less than helpful in any way, shape or form.

I am 25 years in sheep this year and have had about 20 dog attacks in that time. Any dog owner I have let keep the dog locked up have all failed to do so bar one family. Every other one has returned to attack again so I just shoot now and worry later about about what happens after the dog is dead.

You don't need me to tell you the horrific aftermath of attacks, you've seen it yourself, and I'm never again taking the risk of leaving a dog that chased my sheep off the hook.

Zero tolerance.

kowtow · 12-07-2017 06:56PM

Username John wrote: »

It's very easy to talk Kowtow - the dog owning people don't care to be honest... if they think farmers might shoot their dog, maybe it will make them make think twice about letting them roam free...

Dogs are a problem that are getting worse all the time, I would be in favour of a lot more shootings to be honest...

Believe me, I get it completely. Have had to shoot a couple myself in the past - but this country is becoming Metropolitan faster than anybody can imagine. Most farmers - including sheep farmers - will be asking the taxpayer to front up more in the years ahead as the budget for CAP gets smaller.

That absolutely will not happen unless we find a place in public's hearts - and that kind of above-the-law carry on undoes a whole lot of good work, as much as one can sympathise with the individual farmer.

The law is already well on the side of the farmer in these cases, more so than in other countries, what we need is concerted hard work to enforce it, and get the message rammed home more and more each year. There is - I think - a very high compliance rate for chipping dogs, much more so than for the dog licence. Perhaps a few well reported damages cases with decent payouts would get the message across faster than cartridges.

Base price · 12-07-2017 06:58PM

kowtow wrote: »

I thought that was a different dog? I'm not sure if they offer it but the IFA should help with his costs to sue the owner of the earlier dog, not a complicated thing under the circumstances.

The whole area needs a lot more work IMO from every side, but need to be careful not to be seen to be exacting vengeance - and certainly not giving newspaper interviews about it.

I disagree that every side needs more work, irresponsible dog owners need the work. What work do farmers need to do?
We used to keep sheep here years ago but quit them because of problems with dogs. We got sick to the teeth warning neighbours to keep their dogs under control and in most cases to no avail. in the 90's one neighbour even asked us to shoot their family dog next time we saw him on the land as it would cost her to get it put down by the vet :mad:
Here is the section of the legislation that refers to a farmer shooting a dog that is worrying their livestock. To me it's pretty clear and unambiguous.
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1986/act/32/section/23/enacted/en/html#sec23

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