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So it's the 12th of July tomorrow. Will the North ever not be sectarian?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    buried wrote: »
    I'm amazed they allowed Blue pallets to be included. They could be Glasgow Rangers pallets

    Blue pallets are also called EuroPallets.

    Course they're up there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,815 ✭✭✭tigger123


    You'd wonder how the DUP being in power is affecting the outlook of these troglodytes.

    Do they feel emboldened, vindicated that they hold such influence in Westminster?/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,926 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    diomed wrote: »
    I'm just sad we don't have a semi-state body that manufactures pallets.
    Some cash for ash recipient is going bananas at the thought of the amount of subsidy lost in one day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Blue pallets are also called EuroPallets.

    Course they're up there.
    Na, the blue ones are CHEP, but it gets better, I can't remember what CHEP stands for, but the C stands for Commonwealth, they're burning the Queen's own pallets!:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    tigger123 wrote: »
    You'd wonder how the DUP being in power is affecting the outlook of these troglodytes.

    Do they feel emboldened, vindicated that they hold such influence in Westminster?/


    take a look at the huge pile of pallets and wonder where that £1bn went.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 19,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Na, the blue ones are CHEP, but it gets better, I can't remember what CHEP stands for, but the C stands for Commonwealth, they're burning the Queen's own pallets!:pac:

    Isn't CHEP just the name of the company that makes them: http://www.chep.com/Pallets/Wooden_pallets/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    jonnycivic wrote: »
    Isn't CHEP just the name of the company that makes them: http://www.chep.com/Pallets/Wooden_pallets/

    yeah CHEP is just an acronym for the company name, Commonwealth Handling Equipment Pool. It doesnt refer to the pallets at all.


  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Has there ever been any anthropological or sociological study done on orangism and the 12th.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Wasnt there one where they used the flag of some african nation that looks like the irish flag?

    The Ivory Coast flag is the Irish flag back to front.

    You oftentimes see Irish knuckleheads holding the flag the wrong way around at sporting events.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Vast majority of people on both sides of the divide aren't like this of course. This type of behaviour as well as most of the current Paramilitary/Criminal activity seems to be confined to sh1thole council estates in urban areas.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Vast majority of people on both sides of the divide aren't like this. This type of behaviour as well as most of the current Paramilitary/Criminal activity seems to be confined to sh1thole council estates in urban areas.

    I wish it was the case but it isn't. Look at how the moderates did in the last election.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    seamus wrote: »
    Come back to me with a two-thirds majority and then you might be onto something.

    Nah, in the internationally recognised GFA it's +50%.
    tigger123 wrote: »
    Do they feel emboldened, vindicated that they hold such influence in Westminster?/

    Probably. This CON/DUP government is on the ropes, the only thing holding it together is the resurgence of LAB. There is an election due in a couple of years and if the CON's are still making an utter mess of Brexit they will be hammered.

    Labour are already working on winning about 80 marginal seats from the Tories in Britain. This is the high-water mark for the DUP, they will return to being a political irrelevance in the not-too-distant future and they'll probably be on the opposition benches facing Irish Republican 'sympathiser' Jeremy Corbyn heading up Labour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    mariaalice wrote: »
    Has there ever been any anthropological or sociological study done on orangism and the 12th.

    The history behind this is well known i wouldve taught??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    The Ivory Coast flag is the Irish flag back to front.

    You oftentimes see Irish knuckleheads holding the flag the wrong way around at sporting events.

    Tbh burning the flag is not much worse than destroying it in grafeeti/advertising imo



    But the thing about taunting families of recently deceased,has to stop

    It has no place in the 20th century no mind the 21st


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    jonnycivic wrote: »
    Isn't CHEP just the name of the company that makes them: http://www.chep.com/Pallets/Wooden_pallets/
    Well, yeah, but it doesn't change the fact they're burning Commonwealth pallets


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    This type of behaviour as well as most of the current Paramilitary/Criminal activity seems to be confined to sh1thole council estates in urban areas.

    Mostly unionist areas where people are afraid to speak out because the UVF are still visible and controlling the community.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Tbh burning the flag is not much worse than destroying it in grafeeti/advertising imo



    But the thing about taunting families of recently deceased,has to stop

    It has no place in the 20th century no mind the 21st

    No I completely agree that it's not the same thing.

    However the law must crack down on the creepers who defile our national flag with crude slogans and images at sporting events.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    No I completely agree that it's not the same thing.

    However the law must crack down on the creepers who defile our national flag with crude slogans and images at sporting events.

    There's intent to provoke and stupidity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Mostly unionist areas where people are afraid to speak out because the UVF are still visible and controlling the community.

    Yea I remember watching the BBC doc on them a couple of years ago. Pure evil really, a bunch of degenerate criminals preying on their own. Shaking down folks who hardly have a bob to their name to begin with.

    Truly shameful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    There's intent to provoke and stupidity.

    Whatever it is...shouldnt be happening


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Yea I remember watching the BBC doc on them a couple of years ago.

    That was about some Protestant guy who got death threats for speaking out about UVF shenanigans over a playground or something wasn't it?

    Anyway, it looks like it may well be the most peaceful 12th of July ever which is a huge relief. It wasn't so long ago that killings in the north were just everyday news. We've a whole generation of young people now who have no living memory of those times and that's great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,108 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    That was about some Protestant guy who got death threats for speaking out about UVF shenanigans over a playground or something wasn't it?

    Anyway, it looks like it may well be the most peaceful 12th of July ever which is a huge relief. It wasn't so long ago that killings in the north were just everyday news. We've a whole generation of young people now who have no living memory of those times and that's great.

    Which should be a lesson to those who throw their hands in the air and say, nothing can be done.

    Plenty can be done as can be seen with marches. The OO have finally accepted they cannot march and have no inalienable rights to match where they are not wanted and that they have to end the suprematist taunting and provocation.

    That took bravery, resilience and compromise not to mention adherence to the rule of law. The rewards are going to be seen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    I think it was Junkyard Tom who posted the video of the fire brigade spraying the front of shops in water as the bonfire was dangerously a blaze beside. What a bizarre image. Something from a david lynch film.

    Wasn't a row of houses set on fire last year from a dangerous bonfire made by the residents!.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,213 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Was that not Willie Frazer on some of his escapades?

    When it comes to loyalists and stupidity, the stories are endless.

    Nah he can't tell the difference between the Irish flag and the Italian flag

    ******



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Are Am Eye


    Some amount of northie cars around Dublin today.

    And they say we don't do enough for refugees


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    What a bizarre image.

    Yeah it's kinda weird. I've nothing against bonfires, I very much enjoyed Halloween bonfires as a young lad, but building them in the middle of the street near homes and businesses? Maybe bonfires should require some sort of regulation? Signed off by a fire officer or something?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    Yeah it's kinda weird. I've nothing against bonfires, I very much enjoyed Halloween bonfires as a young lad, but building them in the middle of the street near homes and businesses? Maybe bonfires should require some sort of regulation? Signed off by a fire officer or something?

    Its very upside down. Do the authorities up there just turn a blind eye for the night?.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Its very upside down. Do the authorities up there just turn a blind eye for the night?.

    For about a week or 10 days. Those things don't just pop up on the 11th.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭glaswegian


    No - that's november 5th

    appologies,got my guy fawkes and my halloween mixed up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,213 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Its very upside down. Do the authorities up there just turn a blind eye for the night?.
    For about a week or 10 days. Those things don't just pop up on the 11th.

    Sure some had a court injunction to stop building but that did not stop the builders, i wonder if like last year the council/psni will remove some from nationalist areas again

    ******



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