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  • #102
    gandalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    astrofool wrote: »
    What's sad is that 10 years ago, admins like yourself couldn't see ahead and there could have been multiple thriving community forums instead of just the one. It's a long series of errors going back to na stupidity at the beginning.

    Firstly I was a mod and cmod, secondly I personally believe that one forum should cover the subject but given the Spurs forum is in place so long and is reasonably active it should either be granted an exception or at the very least the community consulted with.
    Where the problem also is, by admitting you're an Arsenal fan, by the kiddish charter of this forum, you should be banned now with no reason given.

    Losing St. Totteringham's day this year was already punishment enough!


  • #103
    greenspurs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,676 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    [QUOTE=gandalf;



    Losing St. Totteringham's day this year was already punishment enough![/QUOTE]

    Get used to it ................... :D:P:D:D
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  • #104
    gandalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    We'll see ;)


  • #105
    davycc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,019 ✭✭✭davycc


    Goodbye folks I'll be sad to see this forum close made plenty of friends through the last 11 years.

    For people looking for alternatives I use the Dublin spurs and Irish spurs supporters ground on Facebook. Great friendly bunches.

    As much as I hate the main forum I'll give it another try I have had multiple bans and yellow,red cards so I am on thin ice


  • #106
    davycc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,019 ✭✭✭davycc


    gandalf wrote: »
    We'll see ;)

    +1 we will be doing very well if we can stay in the top 4 again imho, Wembley is curse that we need to shift very early in the season .be delighted if we draw our opener v chels and win our next few homers.

    And also I want to say thank Gandalf for being a gent of a gunners fan I lot of times for the gracious fan's in the sf like yourself and tipp gunner spring to mind along with kev1.3s as the most likeable decent, Chelsea fan .


  • #107
    Liam McPoyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    United fan here.

    Strange decision from the powers that be but unsurprising given the current state of boards.

    Reminds me of when the thunderdome was closed without any warning because one of the brass got a hair up their hole about it.

    The decision was rescinded after a lengthy feedback thread and brought back as a bastardized version of its former self and then it was eventually closed for good.

    I find it disgusting and cowardly that none of those that made the decision have the common courtesy, and that's all it is, a bit of fcuking courtesy, to come in here and give you guys a reason for the closure.

    It's extremely concerning that two private forums that are causing no hassle whatsoever can be closed on a whim without a second thought for the members. Most of my posts on boards nowadays are in private forums so what's to stop admins deciding to close those too?

    Horrible, ham fisted and massively disrespectful to the user base. Then again, it seems these days the user base is a distant second to everything else on Boards.

    The fact that it's the user base that made the site what it is yet large swathes of it can be treated like this says all you need to know.

    Sorry to see us lose yer spot lads, bad day for the parish.


  • #108
    Ludo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,015 ✭✭✭Ludo


    West Ham fan here and long time Boards member. Came on to post how stupid this decision is but I see Rod Munch has summed it up perfectly in the previous post. Stupid unnecessary decision by boards which is becoming par for the course unfortunately.


  • #109
    abff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,776 ✭✭✭abff


    slegs wrote: »
    I have created a new forum www.irishspurs.com (I have access to quality server space and will fund other costs for the moment)

    I know its a long shot with forums on the decline but if there is a demand I am willing to support the forum

    I guess this post will be removed soon but spread the word if you can

    Thanks

    I've joined (same username) and I've also sent a PM to Beasty. Not really expecting a response, but I live in hope.


  • #110
    abff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,776 ✭✭✭abff


    I tried to post on the feedback thread but was told I don't have the necessary user privileges. Does anyone know what is required in order to be able to post there?


  • #111
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • #112
    2nd Row Donkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,916 ✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    Just a quick note before this thread is locked and the doors are finally closed on our little hide away here for good.

    It's been a pleasure to get to know you all and I've always looked forward to the post match and transfer discussions.

    It will be strange to sit in the pub watching our games next season and not having a bit of in-match banter/venting /celebrations etc. I might even have to talk to real life people. Scary.

    I cannot see who are the winners in this decision. There are only losers.
    (Except my wife who I strongly suspect might have had a part in petitioning to have this place closed).

    There have been many highs and lows in here but mostly highs, a particular highlight of mine was the post man city result 7 years ago when we qualified for the champions league for the first time ever.

    Ill register in the new place but I'm gonna stick around on boards purely for the fantasy football forum.

    ... And with that, I bid you guys good luck. It is with a heavy heart that I will say for one final time....


    .... LEVY OUT!!


    Audere Est Facere

    COYS


  • #113
    greenspurs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,676 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    abff wrote: »
    I tried to post on the feedback thread but was told I don't have the necessary user privileges. Does anyone know what is required in order to be able to post there?

    I tried the same, as the guy that posted their suggestion got the usual type of answer .... :rolleyes:
    "They" are not for turning ........
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  • #114
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,395 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    From looking at the Feedback charter, only the person who started the thread can post on it. There's a separate "Open Discussion" sub forum though, I think what needs to happen is someone asks an admin/Niamh/Mark to start a thread there so people can voice their opinions.


  • #115
    greenspurs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,676 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Anyone else having trouble logging into IrishSpurs ?????
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  • #116
    greenspurs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,676 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    From looking at the Feedback charter, only the person who started the thread can post on it. There's a separate "Open Discussion" sub forum though, I think what needs to happen is someone asks an admin/Niamh/Mark to start a thread there so people can voice their opinions.

    Im in enough trouble ...... :rolleyes::D
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  • #117
    Deise Vu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,970 ✭✭✭Deise Vu


    2nd Row Donkey wrote: »
    Just a quick note before this thread is locked and the doors are finally closed on our little hide away here for good.

    It's been a pleasure to get to know you all and I've always looked forward to the post match and transfer discussions.

    It will be strange to sit in the pub watching our games next season and not having a bit of in-match banter/venting /celebrations etc. I might even have to talk to real life people. Scary.

    I cannot see who are the winners in this decision. There are only losers.
    (Except my wife who I strongly suspect might have had a part in petitioning to have this place closed).

    There have been many highs and lows in here but mostly highs, a particular highlight of mine was the post man city result 7 years ago when we qualified for the champions league for the first time ever.

    Ill register in the new place but I'm gonna stick around on boards purely for the fantasy football forum.

    ... And with that, I bid you guys good luck. It is with a heavy heart that I will say for one final time....


    .... LEVY OUT!!


    Audrey Est Facere

    COYS

    I'm no latin scholar, 2nd Row, but I think you are suggesting "Audrey is to do".

    I'm game anyway. Have you her phone number?


  • #118
    Liam McPoyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    From looking at the Feedback charter, only the person who started the thread can post on it. There's a separate "Open Discussion" sub forum though, I think what needs to happen is someone asks an admin/Niamh/Mark to start a thread there so people can voice their opinions.

    I posted a thread in the new feedback forum about the overall issue.

    It has yet to be approved despite admin activity in the forum.


  • #119
    2nd Row Donkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,916 ✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    Deise Vu wrote:
    I'm no latin scholar, 2nd Row, but I think you are suggesting "Audrey is to do".

    Stupid auto correct. Fixed.


  • #120
    Snake Plisken
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,024 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Rod Munch wrote: »
    I posted a thread in the new feedback forum about the overall issue.

    It has yet to be approved despite admin activity in the forum.

    Yeah I did the same 3 days ago no sign of it.Also lads don't be saying bye see you on the new forum we should be fighting to the bitter end to save our forum!
    Everyone should attempt to create a feedback post if there is only a few of us doing it then we will get nowhere!
    Also really appreciate the fans of other teams, mods from other groups and ex mods for showing support and solidarity with us, it's a real shame you're not running the show! Thanks guys


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  • #121
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • #122
    tippspur
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭tippspur


    greenspurs wrote: »
    Anyone else having trouble logging into IrishSpurs ?????
    I joined it a week ago and still haven't got an e-mail to activate my membership.


  • #123
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


  • #124
    memphiz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30 ✭memphiz


    good that the moderators have banned this forum,

    they should ban more forums in my honest opinion,

    they could also ban everybody from posting, hopefully


  • #125
    Kimsang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    So Mods get complained about(and rightfully so) because of their trolling behaviour.
    Mods explain to higher admins that we're just butt hurt because we have our own exclusive community.
    Solution: move them to main forum.

    Honestly you can see a high proportion of people here have no intention of going near the soccer forum. Mostly because they've been burned from visiting before.
    Here we had a cooperative and friendly community.

    Mods trolling have ruined this site. Particularly Chelsea supporters.


    Thanks all yids over the years its been nice knowing ye.

    RIP Boards


  • #126
    slegs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭slegs


    tippspur wrote: »
    greenspurs wrote: »
    Anyone else having trouble logging into IrishSpurs ?????
    I joined it a week ago and still haven't got an e-mail to activate my membership.
    Check your spam folder or else pm me your iD and I will check if your email was entered correctly


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  • #127
    greenspurs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,676 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    slegs wrote: »
    Check your spam folder or else pm me your iD and I will check if your email was entered correctly
    I signed up as Greenspurs, and i was able to post on there,
    but when i went back yesterday i couldnt log in..
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  • #128
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    tippspur wrote: »
    I joined it a week ago and still haven't got an e-mail to activate my membership.

    I had to do it twice, and they turned up in my spam folder.


  • #129
    greenspurs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,676 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Kiith wrote: »
    I had to do it twice, and they turned up in my spam folder.

    When i try to log in ..

    "You exceeded the maximum allowed number of login attempts. In addition to your username and password you now also have to solve the CAPTCHA below"

    and thats from following the link i recieved via email ??
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  • #130
    The high horse brigade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    greenspurs wrote: »
    When i try to log in ..

    "You exceeded the maximum allowed number of login attempts. In addition to your username and password you now also have to solve the CAPTCHA below"

    and thats from following the link i recieved via email ??

    Pm slegs, he's the admin can change email or reset your password


  • #131
    tippspur
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭tippspur


    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.
    Got it sorted,my own error as usual,:(


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  • #132
    greenspurs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,676 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Even the Spurs thread about being shutdown is more entertaining and less hassle than most of the rest on boards !! :)
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  • #133
    abff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,776 ✭✭✭abff


    I have had no response to my pm to Beasty. Not even an acknowledgment.

    Why did he invite us to contact him by pm in his original post? My pm was not abusive - it just expressed surprise and disappointment at the decision, asked for an explanation of why it was happening and requested that they reconsider.

    Shows total lack of respect for the community in my opinion.


  • #134
    abff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,776 ✭✭✭abff


    I'm getting the following message when I try to log into the new Irish Spurs forum.

    General Error
    SQL ERROR [ mysqli ]

    Duplicate entry 'notification.type.postlove' for key 'type' [1062]


  • #135
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,515 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    abff wrote: »
    I have had no response to my pm to Beasty. Not even an acknowledgment.
    You will get a response - everyone else who has PM'd me about this has already had one. However I've been busy both in real life and elsewhere on this site since you sent that a couple of days ago


  • #136
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Lousy carry-on but par for the course nowadays. It's starting to look like there's a conscious and determined effort to run boards into the ground.


  • #137
    greenspurs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,676 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    super_furry wrote: »
    Lousy carry-on but par for the course nowadays. It's starting to look like there's a conscious and determined effort to run boards into the ground.

    But weirdly enough, by those that are supposed to keep it running smoothly... :confused:
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  • #138
    Naomi Chubby Pushcart
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Naomi Chubby Pushcart


    Just learned of this as I don't normally visit during the summer. Haven't read the whole thread but doesn't it just boil down to GavRedKing and Zaph getting their revenge? Had to laugh at the whole "undertaken a review" crap. Also getting us into the main forum will just make it easier to further "moderate" us.

    This decision saddens me greatly so I can only imagine how therecklessone feels. Personally I thought it was nice to have a corner of boards (once a hugely popular site) just for Irish Spurs fans. God knows it hasn't been easy to be a Spurs supporter in this country (I was at school in the nineties you know!!!) and it seems just when Spurs are getting their act together the axe is falling on this sub forum. Brings a tear to my eye.

    I blame Sissoko.


  • #139
    Snake Plisken
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,024 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Just learned of this as I don't normally visit during the summer. Haven't read the whole thread but doesn't it just boil down to GavRedKing and Zaph getting their revenge? Had to laugh at the whole "undertaken a review" crap. Also getting us into the main forum will just make it easier to further "moderate" us.

    This decision saddens me greatly so I can only imagine how therecklessone feels. Personally I thought it was nice to have a corner of boards (once a hugely popular site) just for Irish Spurs fans. God knows it hasn't been easy to be a Spurs supporter in this country (I was at school in the nineties you know!!!) and it seems just when Spurs are getting their act together the axe is falling on this sub forum. Brings a tear to my eye.

    I blame Sissoko.


    It's not dead yet! I know the 3 mods mentioned above probably hope this thread will die a death and they can kill it fully in a week or two but I'm hopeful that an independent mod review will make the right decision and leave us continue our forum within boards.ie


  • #140
    memphiz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30 ✭memphiz


    this website is run by a shower of sycophants,

    let them run it into the ground,

    sad little dictators

    gl spurs


  • #141
    MonkieSocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,350 ✭✭✭MonkieSocks


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Just learned of this as I don't normally visit during the summer. Haven't read the whole thread but doesn't it just boil down to GavRedKing and Zaph getting their revenge? Had to laugh at the whole "undertaken a review" crap. Also getting us into the main forum will just make it easier to further "moderate" us.



    I blame Sissoko.

    Oddly enough the above highlighted has a Chelsea thread in the new spurs forum, Baffling? :o

    Feedback thread is here

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057758506

    EDIT Tried to post in the feedback link above but it is not allowed

    =(:-) Me? I know who I am. I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude (-:)=



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  • #142
    abff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,776 ✭✭✭abff


    In fairness to Beasty, he has now responded in detail to my pm. Nothing new to report, but he did explain the reasoning behind the decision.

    I guess the key issue is that he is looking at things from a macro level, while we are trying to protect our little patch that we have enjoyed so much. I still don't agree with the decision, but I don't think we can place all the blame on Beasty and I certainly don't think that it is due to a vendetta against Spurs fans by certain individuals.


  • #143
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


  • #144
    Snake Plisken
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,024 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    abff wrote: »
    In fairness to Beasty, he has now responded in detail to my pm. Nothing new to report, but he did explain the reasoning behind the decision.

    I guess the key issue is that he is looking at things from a macro level, while we are trying to protect our little patch that we have enjoyed so much. I still don't agree with the decision, but I don't think we can place all the blame on Beasty and I certainly don't think that it is due to a vendetta against Spurs fans by certain individuals.

    Sorry don't buy it Gav Beasty and Zaph should have nothing to do with the decision making process in shutting down the Spurs forum, there is clearly a conflict of interest having any of those 3 involved. I am not going to repeat myself but FA cup semi final thread was probably what pushed the boys over the edge! The abuse of Senior mod power on that thread by site banning individuals was a sign of what they are trying to do now!
    A lot of us have raised posts about this shutdown in the feedback forums and only one post has been published!
    Boards management needs to respond to our questions now!


  • #145
    CantGetNoSleep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,271 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    Haha what a joke. Not even a Spurs fan but come on here for a look because you tend to get people above school age and can have a discussion which does not have to involve Liverpool or Man Utd. Boards doesn't have long left it seems with clowns running it. At least there is a Gearbest forum though


  • #146
    GavRedKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    I'm glad that I'm in all of your thoughts about this and my apparent part in getting this forum closed but I dont have the power to shut it, nor have I chased for it to be closed so the consistent beating of that drum is pointless but if it makes ye rest easy, I'll play the panto villian. :pac:


  • #147
    MonkieSocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,350 ✭✭✭MonkieSocks


    GavRedKing wrote: »
    I'm glad that I'm in all of your thoughts about this and my apparent part in getting this forum closed but I dont have the power to shut it, nor have I chased for it to be closed so the consistent beating of that drum is pointless but if it makes ye rest easy, I'll play the panto villian. :pac:

    :rolleyes:

    You are supposedly a Chelsea fan, why do come onto the Spurs section to wind people up.

    The forum is closing and you are still making snide comments.

    Panto character is right, say hello to the ugly sisters for us :)

    =(:-) Me? I know who I am. I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude (-:)=



  • #148
    GavRedKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    MonkieSocks wrote: »

    You are supposedly a Chelsea fan, why do come onto the Spurs section to wind people up.

    The forum is closing and you are still making snide comments.

    Panto character is right, say hello to the ugly sisters for us


    Below is why I'm here.

    Deleted User wrote: »
    Just learned of this as I don't normally visit during the summer. Haven't read the whole thread but doesn't it just boil down to GavRedKing and Zaph getting their revenge? Had to laugh at the whole "undertaken a review" crap. Also getting us into the main forum will just make it easier to further "moderate" us.

    This decision saddens me greatly so I can only imagine how therecklessone feels. Personally I thought it was nice to have a corner of boards (once a hugely popular site) just for Irish Spurs fans. God knows it hasn't been easy to be a Spurs supporter in this country (I was at school in the nineties you know!!!) and it seems just when Spurs are getting their act together the axe is falling on this sub forum. Brings a tear to my eye.

    I blame Sissoko.
    Snake Plisken wrote: »
    It's not dead yet! I know the 3 mods mentioned above probably hope this thread will die a death and they can kill it fully in a week or two but I'm hopeful that an independent mod review will make the right decision and leave us continue our forum within boards.ie
    Snake Plisken wrote: »
    Sorry don't buy it Gav Beasty and Zaph should have nothing to do with the decision making process in shutting down the Spurs forum, there is clearly a conflict of interest having any of those 3 involved. I am not going to repeat myself but FA cup semi final thread was probably what pushed the boys over the edge! The abuse of Senior mod power on that thread by site banning individuals was a sign of what they are trying to do now!
    A lot of us have raised posts about this shutdown in the feedback forums and only one post has been published!
    Boards management needs to respond to our questions now!

    I could highlight more posts but you get the gist of it.


    I could spell it out clearly with large, bolded font but I'm not able, nor have I tried to close the forum but it doesnt suit the narrative.


    I also didnt setup an account on your new forum, I seen it and chuckled though. if I was going to follow ye around the internet I wouldnt be silly enough to use a Boards name, so someone is trolling ye over there via my name.


    I'd suggest to whoever the Admin over there is to ban/delete that account because its not mine and I dont have time to be trolling fans on another forum, I've only just enough time to use Boards as it is.


  • #149
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Mods don't decide to shutdown forums lads, so you're way off if you think Gav has had anything to do with this. Have he and a few others occasionally come in to bust our chops/troll/have a discussion? Probably...but god damn if we can't handle a few posts at our expense then we may as well get off the internet all together.

    Anyway, it's done and won't be changed, so off to either the new forum or the soccer thread. Both for me, so back to the serious business of winning the league.


  • #150
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,515 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    OK, I'll clear up a few points

    Firstly Gav was not party to the decision to close this forum. The decision was taken at Admin and Office level

    I realise it was relayed abruptly and I apologise for that. When I was made Admin one of the first points I made was if the forum was to be closed it should be done in the close season as I thought it would be much more disruptive to do this in the middle of the season. Equally I was conscious of the impending annual Soccer forum feedback thread and was concerned that if an announcement was made after that had started there was a danger this whole topic would be raised there (as has happened numerous times in the past). I had a particular concern that any announcement could raise the temperature in that feedback thread potentially resulting in additional resentment between regulars here and fans of other clubs. I therefore asked the Soccer mods to delay starting their feedback thread until we had announced the closure of this forum.

    I would just add that the amount of posting here is far less than for equivalent clubs in the main Soccer forum - having 3 different places to discuss football makes little sense. Having 2 of them hidden away in Hosted makes even less sense with anyone new to the site probably being unaware of the hosted forums.

    Finally, as LoLth posted earlier today in the Feedback thread we are proposing to hold an Open Feedback discussion on the wider plans on the hosted forums. I am therefore closing this thread.


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