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05-07-2017 08:18PM

Official announcement video on twitter has Webb.

https://twitter.com/lionsofficial/status/882675447892295680

Clegg · 05-07-2017 08:18PM

Going with the same 23 is completely understandable. Would've swapped McGrath in for Vunipola, but no changes other than that.

I also hope Gatland uses the bench sooner. Stander could make a huge impact coming on with 20 to go. Although if the starting backrow plays as well as they did last week who do you sub him on for?

titan18 · 05-07-2017 08:19PM

irishbucsfan wrote:

Ben From Accounts

Didn't click with me at all

Former Former · 05-07-2017 08:28PM

Where is this Gareth Davies thing coming from?

It's Webb

Former Former · 05-07-2017 08:35PM

According to BBC, it's the first time since 1993 that the Lions have named an unchanged XV.

Happy enough with that on the basis of not changing a winning team and Vunipola won't be as bad again.

Yeah_Right · 05-07-2017 08:35PM

Glad to see Vunipola was retained. He's a penalty machine and weakens the Lions' scrum, which is average at best. He is good with the ball in hand but needs to cut out the head shots and the testicle grabbing.

Yeah_Right · 05-07-2017 08:37PM

titan18 wrote: »

Didn't click with me at all

It's a kiwi joke about how he's a skinny white boy who looks like he should be nowhere near a professional rugby team.

Peregrine · 05-07-2017 08:41PM

Mako is a very lucky boy. It's the only change I was hoping for.

degsie · 05-07-2017 08:45PM

Vunipola is a loose cannon and might be the Loins undoing.

SlickRic · 05-07-2017 09:35PM

Vunipola is the only issue I really have.

Buer · 05-07-2017 09:45PM

As posted previously, Vunipola hadn't given away a single penalty on the tour before last week which is seriously impressive for a prop.

He's nowhere near a loose cannon or a penalty machine. Fortunate to keep his place, perhaps. But he does not have a discipline problem at all.

Buer · 05-07-2017 09:46PM

swiwi_ wrote:

I do rate Barrett Jnr, but first test start...no prizes for guessing in which direction Conor Murray's first box kick will head.

Up, I would hope.

Synode · 05-07-2017 09:50PM

Is Ioane injured or dropped?

jr86 · 05-07-2017 09:53PM

Buer wrote: »

As posted previously, Vunipola hadn't given away a single penalty on the tour before last week which is seriously impressive for a prop.

He's nowhere near a loose cannon or a penalty machine. Fortunate to keep his place, perhaps. But he does not have a discipline problem at all.

Fully agree. Recency effect is always huge though in such analysis. As good as your last game and all that

Bazzo · 05-07-2017 10:04PM

Synode wrote: »

Is Ioane injured or dropped?

Dropped

awec · 05-07-2017 10:49PM

9. Aaron Smith (61)
10. Beauden Barrett (52)
11. Julian Savea (53)
12. Ngani Laumape (1)
13. Anton Lienert-Brown (12)
14. Israel Dagg (64)
15. Jordie Barrett (1)

Brave selection, fair play to Hansen, no fannying about there. If you're good enough you're old enough and stuff this notion you need to play a load of games against dross before getting a real go.

wonderfullife · 05-07-2017 10:58PM

Buer wrote: »

Vunipola ...But he does not have a discipline problem at all.

Agree. No discipline problem.

Last week he had a brain problem. He didn't use it.

The Lions simply can't afford another headless chicken performance from him.

irishman86 · 05-07-2017 11:12PM

awec wrote: »

9. Aaron Smith (61)
10. Beauden Barrett (52)
11. Julian Savea (53)
12. Ngani Laumape (1)
13. Anton Lienert-Brown (12)
14. Israel Dagg (64)
15. Jordie Barrett (1)

Brave selection, fair play to Hansen, no fannying about there. If you're good enough you're old enough and stuff this notion you need to play a load of games against dross before getting a real go.

Try telling to any of the northern coaches :pac:

Neil3030 · 05-07-2017 11:19PM

SlickRic wrote: »

Vunipola is the only issue I really have.

You can get good creams for that, apparently :pac:

molloyjh · 05-07-2017 11:39PM

awec wrote: »

9. Aaron Smith (61)
10. Beauden Barrett (52)
11. Julian Savea (53)
12. Ngani Laumape (1)
13. Anton Lienert-Brown (12)
14. Israel Dagg (64)
15. Jordie Barrett (1)

Brave selection, fair play to Hansen, no fannying about there. If you're good enough you're old enough and stuff this notion you need to play a load of games against dross before getting a real go.

Garry Ringrose got his second cap against NZ and his first start the following week against Australia. So the very thing you're congratulating Hansen on Joe did several months ago.....

Burkie1203 · 05-07-2017 11:42PM

molloyjh wrote: »

Garry Ringrose got his second cap against NZ and his first start the following week against Australia. So the very thing you're congratulating Hansen on Joe did several months ago.....

Carbery too.

irishman86 · 05-07-2017 11:43PM

molloyjh wrote: »

Garry Ringrose got his second cap against NZ and his first start the following week against Australia. So the very thing you're congratulating Hansen on Joe did several months ago.....

You could add Carberry in to first or maybe it was second game as well although I dont personally think its as big a game as the winning test of a Lions tour. Would Ringrose have got that start against England in a title decider probably not

molloyjh · 05-07-2017 11:46PM

Burkie1203 wrote: »

molloyjh wrote: »

Garry Ringrose got his second cap against NZ and his first start the following week against Australia. So the very thing you're congratulating Hansen on Joe did several months ago.....

Carbery too.

And Furlong. Got his first cap at 22. Played for Ireland 8 times that season, 7 times against tier 1 opposition. After the first 5 caps he displaced Ross as our number 1 TH. At 23. #conservative

molloyjh · 05-07-2017 11:49PM

VDF got his first cap and start against England in the 6Ns at 22.

Yeah_Right · 05-07-2017 11:56PM

irishman86 wrote: »

You could add Carberry in to first or maybe it was second game as well although I dont personally think its as big a game as the winning test of a Lions tour. Would Ringrose have got that start against England in a title decider probably not

Probably the only game that is as big as a Lions series decider, is a World Cup final.

If Ireland had a similar injury/suspension issue in the midfield to what the ABs have right now, yeah I think Ringrose would have chucked to start a 6N title decider against England. I don't see any reason to think otherwise.

irishman86 · 06-07-2017 12:13AM

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Probably the only game that is as big as a Lions series decider, is a World Cup final.

If Ireland had a similar injury/suspension issue in the midfield to what the ABs have right now, yeah I think Ringrose would have chucked to start a 6N title decider against England. I don't see any reason to think otherwise.

I agree with the importance of the game
And you could be right, although I fancy he would more likely have gone with one of the northern boys
Just a point on Furlong unrelated to your post, but getting ahead of Ross for me isnt a big deal, hes been on his last legs for a while and should have been put out to pasture sooner

swiwi_ · 06-07-2017 05:31AM

Synode wrote: »

Is Ioane injured or dropped?

Bazzo wrote: »

Dropped

Sick.

pickarooney · 06-07-2017 07:25AM

molloyjh wrote: »

VDF got his first cap and start against England in the 6Ns at 22.

As did Stuart McCloskey. Even if you're not good enough you're old enough.

06-07-2017 07:26AM

swiwi_ wrote: »

Sick.

He watched one too many of Sexton's loop plays and the dizzyness made him unwell!

awec · 06-07-2017 08:09AM

molloyjh wrote: »

Garry Ringrose got his second cap against NZ and his first start the following week against Australia. So the very thing you're congratulating Hansen on Joe did several months ago.....

I didn't even mention Schmidt or Ireland!

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