Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

Sweet Science wrote: »

I have the strongest piece of evidence that is possible . He is not a boxer . Im better than Rory McIlroy at golf . Prove me wrong you have nothing to back it up with

It's very possible you're better than Rory at golf. Once I see you compete with him on the golf course I'll have some evidence to form an opinion.

There's an American guy called Jimmy Graham. He was a basketball player in a Miami university for 4 years until he graduated. He decided to do a post-grad and took up American Football for the year he was doing his post-grad.

Turns out he was an absolute natural in the tight-end position and is currently on a $40 million 4-year contract with the Seattle Seahawks.

By your logic, it wasn't possible for him to be amazing at American Football because he was a basketball player and only took up the new sport at the age of 24.

walshb wrote: »

Yes, but he is getting hit by experienced boxers. Conor is not close to this. So, I think it's logical to assume/think that Floyd may have an easier time not getting hit by Conor.

OR, maybe Floyd won't care that Conor can or will land, as Conor is not a man who he believes has the combined elements of technique and speed and delivery and power to really bother him. In other words, Conor being so not a boxer means Floyd doesn't give a fook if maybe Conor lands.

I would not be surprised to see Floyd playing with Conor and allowing Conor bits of success here and there to make out that this is a real affair. Just in case you wet your pants, that is me saying that Floyd does this all by himself. Nothing to do with a staged agreement.

The gulf in class is so much that it really is cat and mouse stuff...

I think Conor will annoy him so much in the build-up that Floyd will want to go in there and want to rip his head off. Conor will probably bring his domestic violence history into it, his kids into it, etc.

Gamebred wrote: »

There is video footage of him sparring a professional boxer, I think that alone gives people evidence enough to form an opinion of some sort.

Dangerous road to go down to judge people on training footage.

Conor has looked muck against Artem in sparring in the past.

walshb wrote: »

And there goes your 9 rds prediction for Conor!

To be clear my initial prediction was Floyd to win via 9th round TKO (not Conor to win).

But I'm open minded enough to change my pick if I see any encouraging reasons to do so.

wonderfullife wrote: »

That's not evidence.

Paul McGrath and Ledley King barely trained in soccer because their knees were so bad but they were still beasts come match-day.

You're just making an informed guess and you might be very right or you might be very wrong.

We will all have evidence August 26th and then we can give much better opinions.

From purely MMA terms, Conor's jab is not good. His footwork and movement are exceptional. His hand-speed is average. His accuracy is amazing.

Let's see what he brings to the ring. The key concern is the lack of a jab given how important that is in boxing.

They were professional soccer players man .

wonderfullife wrote: »

There's nothing Conor can do in the ring to earn the respect of old-school boxing fans. He could piece Floyd up for 12 rounds and win a 118-110 decision and people still wouldn't show him respect.

Did you type this out with a straight face?? :pac:

What do you think, boxing fans are just a bunch of old cranks that hate MMA and McGregor?

Wonderfullife, you remind me of that general in full metal jacket, when he tells joker to re-discover his patriotism...

"Who's side are you on, son...!?...Don't you love your country...!?... Well, how about getting with the program...!?... Why don't you jump on the team, and come on in for the big win!!!"

I'm sure lots of patriotic Irish sports fans would love to jump on board the big hype train, and ride that wave of optimism to victory. However, not when it requires you to essentially suspend all logic and knowledge that you have of the sport...

Unfortunately, optimism or patriotism is simply not going to cut it, against one of the most skilled boxing technicians of our generation. (or any generation for that matter)

I have no issue with people dreaming... it's why many people occasionally do the lottery. No harm in it, I say...

But please, don't come on a boxing forum and attempt to build a logic-based argument for how McGregor wins this fight. Or even makes it somewhat competitive. It's just rather insulting to people's intelligence, and it makes you look like a bit of a desperate fanboy tbh!!

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Let's hope so............

Are you and Wonderforlife the same person ? Can you imagine a boxer throwing a punch like your man its embarrassing to look at

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

You're missing the point.......

Of course Mayweather is in a different league to Ivan Buchinger... wasn't trying to compare the two of them... and mma gloves are being used here, so much less force transfer.

The point is that if Mayweather "allows Conor bits of success" he is liable to regret it given that sweet left of McGregor's.

Two points on this:

1) IF Conor manages to land that "big left" flush on MW... (and it's a very big IF)... it's unlikely to do anywhere near the same damage to a top boxer. I think you underestimate MW's ability to take a punch!

He will most likely take any such punch, much better than any of Conor's MMA opponents. (just look how Nate took his punches, and that guy is a C-level boxer in the pro ranks at best)

2) Bigger gloves. Better conditioning. Better ringcraft.

Bigger gloves - self explanatory really.

The conditioning of a top level boxer, allows him/her to absorb punches better than MMA fighters. All that bulky muscle that you are required to have for grappling and ground fighting, will sap your stamina and in most cases result in you getting KO'd easier when you get hit by big shots.

Floyd doesn't have to worry about this. Conor does!!

As regards ringcraft: in the highly unlikely event that Floyd does get rocked by something... he will simply get on his bike and ride out the storm. He has the craftiness to do this. There is no way he will stand flat-footed against the ropes, like Chad Mendes for example, and allow Conor to tee off on him!!

(but, for me, there is next to no chance he gets rocked by anything)

I can understand McGregor fans being seduced by the above video clips... they see how his left leaves MMA guys in a heap, sometimes when he barely even touches them. But these guys are mere mortals compared with someone like MW... completely different animals.

Physically, technically, mentally... there really is no comparison!