Sleeper cars

everlast75 · 29-06-2017 03:31PM #1

"A sleeper is a car that has high performance and an unassuming exterior. Sleeper cars are so called because their exterior looks little or no different from a standard or economy-class car. In some cases the car appears worse due to seeming neglect on the owner's part, typically referred to as "all go and no show". While appearing to be a standard or neglected car, internally they are modified to perform at higher performance levels."

As we have threads for Bangernomics and Luxobarges, I asked Osi if we should have a thread on here for any sleepers which might be for sale and he agreed.

I can't think of any limitations, other than they should fit the definition. Perhaps they should have a valid NCT but this can be changed if need be as the cars are added. Obviously car tax is irrelevant.

So car hunters and voyeurs.. work away!

Sexual Chocolate · 29-06-2017 04:49PM

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-t5-dohc-turbo/15281730

Edit : Car seems sold now. Was an S40 2.4 turbo

JoeA3 · 29-06-2017 04:50PM

A filthy dirty Golf R in a subtle colour will look like any other humdrum diesel Golf to 95% of people. There's probably a few on carzone!

bazz26 · 29-06-2017 04:54PM

I'll start.

Ford Mondeo 3.0 litre v6 petrol:

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https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-mondeo-3-0-ghia-x-serious-enquiries-only/15005810

Sexual Chocolate · 29-06-2017 05:00PM

bazz26 wrote: »

I'll start.

Ford Mondeo 3.0 litre v6 petrol:

Not too long ago he had that up for shy of 5k

cardshark · 29-06-2017 05:18PM

The tax rules in this country are so f***ing annoying!!

Would love one of the beasts above.

bazz26 · 29-06-2017 05:20PM

Its only a boring Volvo:

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https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2007-volvo-s80-3-2-awd-1-owner-low-mileage-new-nct/15776168

bazz26 · 29-06-2017 05:22PM

Golf R32 in inoffensive silver:

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https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volkswagen-golf-2008-volkswagon-r32-250bhp-r32/15543513

29-06-2017 05:31PM

I don't think any of these look anyway as fast as they are, I was behind a faster looking 2016 316d on the way to work this morning

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-335i-sport-tax-till-aug-nct-2018-286bhp/15386363

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https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-bmw-535d-se-fsh-with-only-116k-miles/15322362

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https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-e-class-e350-bluef-cy-amg-sport-cdi/13266962

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easygoing39 · 30-06-2017 07:03AM

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-t-sport-1-8/15520794

Yours ma's Corolla,but with 192 BHP,138 MPH top speed and €636 motor tax!

tedpan · 30-06-2017 07:22AM

Augeo wrote:

I don't think any of these look anyway as fast as they are, I was behind a faster looking 2016 316d on the way to work this morning

None of those German cars are sleepers. They look like they're going to be quick..

Eg. Most car people know that a 335i has a 3.0 litre twin turbo

30-06-2017 09:57AM

tedpan wrote: »

None of those German cars are sleepers. They look like they're going to be quick..

Eg. Most car people know that a 335i has a 3.0 litre twin turbo

Really.
I disagree

The 5 series looks like a 520d and the 335i is an SE looking much like any other 3 series Coupe.

mloc123 · 30-06-2017 10:16AM

tedpan wrote: »

None of those German cars are sleepers. They look like they're going to be quick..

Eg. Most car people know that a 335i has a 3.0 litre twin turbo

Pop the 335i badge of and everyone would assume it is a 316d like 90% of them are

tedpan · 30-06-2017 10:27AM

Augeo wrote:

Really. I disagree The 5 series looks like a 520d and the 335i is an SE looking much like any other 3 series Coupe.

Yeah, sleepers usually give nothing away.

The Volvo above is an excellent example. The Mondeo is nearly as good although if you're a car person, the alloys tell you it's a fast ford.

bladespin · 30-06-2017 10:52AM

tedpan wrote: »

Yeah, sleepers usually give nothing away.

The Volvo above is an excellent example. The Mondeo is nearly as good although if you're a car person, the alloys tell you it's a fast ford.

Totally agree, think grey steel wheel Corolla with 3l ingin

(if there was such a thing).

I do know a roadracer who used to have a Transit with a Rover v8, was only ever used as a toy though.

draiochtanois · 30-06-2017 10:53AM

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ironclaw · 30-06-2017 12:57PM

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https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2006-audi-a3-tfsi-quattro/15528152

2006 A3 Quattro (200BHP / 3DR)

(Full disclosure, this is my car and not intended as an advert)

bladespin · 30-06-2017 12:59PM

Defo not a sleeper, needs to be exact opposite of what you'd think a performance car would be - wolf in sheep's clothing.

Lotus Carlton

A dressed down R32 would be excellent.

s15r330 · 30-06-2017 01:06PM

I think some people on here need to rethink their definition of a sleeper.

A friend of mine had a vauxhall nova, with a 2litre turbo engine giving over 300bhp, that's a sleeper.

I had a starlet turbo, looked like your average 135bhp starlet, but it had 298bhp.

A sleeper is something that will surprise even a car enthusiast, a t5 volvo isn't a sleeper, its a t5 volvo, if you know cars you know its going to be fast.

Perfect example
http://forum.retro-rides.org/thread/178447/1990-peugeot-205-20v-turbo

J.pilkington · 30-06-2017 01:11PM

easygoing39 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-t-sport-1-8/15520794

Yours ma's Corolla,but with 192 BHP,138 MPH top speed and €636 motor tax!

Crap alloys are a giveaway

jelutong · 30-06-2017 01:14PM

I don't think the op had modified cars in mind when starting the thread.

s15r330 · 30-06-2017 01:20PM

jelutong wrote: »

I don't think the op had modified cars in mind when starting the thread.

Well seeing as most sleepers are modified cars. There aren't very many factory cars that will suprise a car enthusiast, there are always tell tale signs.

To me a sleeper is a car that when you see it take off you're reaction is total surprise.

draiochtanois · 30-06-2017 01:28PM

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bladespin · 30-06-2017 01:30PM

draiochtanois wrote: »

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Snap

s15r330 · 30-06-2017 01:33PM

draiochtanois wrote: »

Ford Transit powered by Jag XJ 220

That interviewer is hard to listen to

heroics · 30-06-2017 01:50PM

draiochtanois wrote: »

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That is my idea of a sleeper.

30-06-2017 02:25PM

bladespin wrote: »

Defo not a sleeper, needs to be exact opposite of what you'd think a performance car would be - wolf in sheep's clothing.

Lotus Carlton..................

Yeah, back in 1992 no one would have thought this (in out of factory guise) was a fast car compared to a plodding 1.8 on steelies... no more a sleeper than a Sierra Saphire Cosworth was.

bladespin · 30-06-2017 02:42PM

Augeo wrote: »

Yeah, back in 1992 no one would have thought this (in out of factory guise) was a fast car compared to a plodding 1.8 on steelies... no more a sleeper than a Sierra Saphire Cosworth was.

How many cossies did you see? Real ones that is among the mix of wannabees, the odds of seeing a LC was lottery stats, if you saw one I guarantee you just assumed it was a vectra, especially if they'd switched over to the steel wheels and removed the spoiler.

30-06-2017 02:44PM

bladespin wrote: »

How many cossies did you see? Real ones that is among the mix of wannabees, the odds of seeing a LC was lottery stats, if you saw one I guarantee you just assumed it was a vectra, especially if they'd switched over to the steel wheels and removed the spoiler.

Not me bud, not me

Switching over to steel wheels and removing the spoiler? Are you serious? That was done frequently on the ones you saw was it?

bladespin · 30-06-2017 02:50PM

Augeo wrote: »

Not me bud, not me

Switching over to steel wheels and removing the spoiler? Are you serious? That was done frequently on the ones you saw was it?

If you wanted a sleeper that's what you did, or switch to more whitebread alloys.

Ever been to Brands or the IOM? you'll see plenty of 'understated' cars.
It was common enough to de-badge and 'cloak' desirebale cars in the UK, theft risk was the main reason, just like everyone wanted the GTi but no-one wanted a GTi badge.
Name's not bud btw.

30-06-2017 03:03PM

bladespin wrote: »

If you wanted a sleeper that's what you did, or switch to more whitebread alloys.

Ever been to Brands or the IOM? you'll see plenty of 'understated' cars.
It was common enough to de-badge and 'cloak' desirebale cars in the UK, theft risk was the main reason, just like everyone wanted the GTi but no-one wanted a GTi badge.
Name's not bud btw.

sort of like a 335 SE

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