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Sleeper cars

everlast75

"A sleeper is a car that has high performance and an unassuming exterior. Sleeper cars are so called because their exterior looks little or no different from a standard or economy-class car. In some cases the car appears worse due to seeming neglect on the owner's part, typically referred to as "all go and no show". While appearing to be a standard or neglected car, internally they are modified to perform at higher performance levels."

As we have threads for Bangernomics and Luxobarges, I asked Osi if we should have a thread on here for any sleepers which might be for sale and he agreed.

I can't think of any limitations, other than they should fit the definition. Perhaps they should have a valid NCT but this can be changed if need be as the cars are added. Obviously car tax is irrelevant.

So car hunters and voyeurs.. work away!

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Sexual Chocolate

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-t5-dohc-turbo/15281730

Edit : Car seems sold now. Was an S40 2.4 turbo

JoeA3

A filthy dirty Golf R in a subtle colour will look like any other humdrum diesel Golf to 95% of people. There's probably a few on carzone!

bazz26

I'll start.

Ford Mondeo 3.0 litre v6 petrol:

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https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-mondeo-3-0-ghia-x-serious-enquiries-only/15005810

Sexual Chocolate

bazz26 wrote: »

I'll start.

Ford Mondeo 3.0 litre v6 petrol:

Not too long ago he had that up for shy of 5k

cardshark

The tax rules in this country are so f***ing annoying!!

Would love one of the beasts above.

bazz26

Its only a boring Volvo:

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https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2007-volvo-s80-3-2-awd-1-owner-low-mileage-new-nct/15776168

bazz26

Golf R32 in inoffensive silver:

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https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volkswagen-golf-2008-volkswagon-r32-250bhp-r32/15543513

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I don't think any of these look anyway as fast as they are, I was behind a faster looking 2016 316d on the way to work this morning

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-335i-sport-tax-till-aug-nct-2018-286bhp/15386363

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https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-bmw-535d-se-fsh-with-only-116k-miles/15322362

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https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-e-class-e350-bluef-cy-amg-sport-cdi/13266962

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easygoing39

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-t-sport-1-8/15520794

Yours ma's Corolla,but with 192 BHP,138 MPH top speed and €636 motor tax!

tedpan

Augeo wrote:

I don't think any of these look anyway as fast as they are, I was behind a faster looking 2016 316d on the way to work this morning

None of those German cars are sleepers. They look like they're going to be quick..

Eg. Most car people know that a 335i has a 3.0 litre twin turbo

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tedpan wrote: »

None of those German cars are sleepers. They look like they're going to be quick..

Eg. Most car people know that a 335i has a 3.0 litre twin turbo

Really.
I disagree

The 5 series looks like a 520d and the 335i is an SE looking much like any other 3 series Coupe.

mloc123

tedpan wrote: »

None of those German cars are sleepers. They look like they're going to be quick..

Eg. Most car people know that a 335i has a 3.0 litre twin turbo

Pop the 335i badge of and everyone would assume it is a 316d like 90% of them are

tedpan

Augeo wrote:

Really. I disagree The 5 series looks like a 520d and the 335i is an SE looking much like any other 3 series Coupe.

Yeah, sleepers usually give nothing away.

The Volvo above is an excellent example. The Mondeo is nearly as good although if you're a car person, the alloys tell you it's a fast ford.

bladespin

tedpan wrote: »

Yeah, sleepers usually give nothing away.

The Volvo above is an excellent example. The Mondeo is nearly as good although if you're a car person, the alloys tell you it's a fast ford.

Totally agree, think grey steel wheel Corolla with 3l ingin

(if there was such a thing).

I do know a roadracer who used to have a Transit with a Rover v8, was only ever used as a toy though.

draiochtanois

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ironclaw

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https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2006-audi-a3-tfsi-quattro/15528152

2006 A3 Quattro (200BHP / 3DR)

(Full disclosure, this is my car and not intended as an advert)

bladespin

Defo not a sleeper, needs to be exact opposite of what you'd think a performance car would be - wolf in sheep's clothing.

Lotus Carlton

A dressed down R32 would be excellent.

s15r330

I think some people on here need to rethink their definition of a sleeper.

A friend of mine had a vauxhall nova, with a 2litre turbo engine giving over 300bhp, that's a sleeper.

I had a starlet turbo, looked like your average 135bhp starlet, but it had 298bhp.

A sleeper is something that will surprise even a car enthusiast, a t5 volvo isn't a sleeper, its a t5 volvo, if you know cars you know its going to be fast.

Perfect example
http://forum.retro-rides.org/thread/178447/1990-peugeot-205-20v-turbo

J.pilkington

easygoing39 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-corolla-t-sport-1-8/15520794

Yours ma's Corolla,but with 192 BHP,138 MPH top speed and €636 motor tax!

Crap alloys are a giveaway

jelutong

I don't think the op had modified cars in mind when starting the thread.

s15r330

jelutong wrote: »

I don't think the op had modified cars in mind when starting the thread.

Well seeing as most sleepers are modified cars. There aren't very many factory cars that will suprise a car enthusiast, there are always tell tale signs.

To me a sleeper is a car that when you see it take off you're reaction is total surprise.

draiochtanois

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bladespin

draiochtanois wrote: »

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Snap

s15r330

draiochtanois wrote: »

Ford Transit powered by Jag XJ 220

That interviewer is hard to listen to

heroics

draiochtanois wrote: »

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That is my idea of a sleeper.

[Deleted User]

bladespin wrote: »

Defo not a sleeper, needs to be exact opposite of what you'd think a performance car would be - wolf in sheep's clothing.

Lotus Carlton..................

Yeah, back in 1992 no one would have thought this (in out of factory guise) was a fast car compared to a plodding 1.8 on steelies... no more a sleeper than a Sierra Saphire Cosworth was.

bladespin

Augeo wrote: »

Yeah, back in 1992 no one would have thought this (in out of factory guise) was a fast car compared to a plodding 1.8 on steelies... no more a sleeper than a Sierra Saphire Cosworth was.

How many cossies did you see? Real ones that is among the mix of wannabees, the odds of seeing a LC was lottery stats, if you saw one I guarantee you just assumed it was a vectra, especially if they'd switched over to the steel wheels and removed the spoiler.

[Deleted User]

bladespin wrote: »

How many cossies did you see? Real ones that is among the mix of wannabees, the odds of seeing a LC was lottery stats, if you saw one I guarantee you just assumed it was a vectra, especially if they'd switched over to the steel wheels and removed the spoiler.

Not me bud, not me

Switching over to steel wheels and removing the spoiler? Are you serious? That was done frequently on the ones you saw was it?

bladespin

Augeo wrote: »

Not me bud, not me

Switching over to steel wheels and removing the spoiler? Are you serious? That was done frequently on the ones you saw was it?

If you wanted a sleeper that's what you did, or switch to more whitebread alloys.

Ever been to Brands or the IOM? you'll see plenty of 'understated' cars.
It was common enough to de-badge and 'cloak' desirebale cars in the UK, theft risk was the main reason, just like everyone wanted the GTi but no-one wanted a GTi badge.
Name's not bud btw.

[Deleted User]

bladespin wrote: »

If you wanted a sleeper that's what you did, or switch to more whitebread alloys.

Ever been to Brands or the IOM? you'll see plenty of 'understated' cars.
It was common enough to de-badge and 'cloak' desirebale cars in the UK, theft risk was the main reason, just like everyone wanted the GTi but no-one wanted a GTi badge.
Name's not bud btw.

sort of like a 335 SE