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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,298 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    John Halligan got in on the fact that he was all about change and got the popular vote. He tries to keep this going for the next election.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭Freddio


    But the fact remains we are represented by gombeens across the board


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    We tolerate them and their system I think that's something they seem to forget


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 646 ✭✭✭koumi


    everytime Leo Varadkar claims he was elected Taoiseach I want to punch him in the gonads


  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    koumi wrote: »
    everytime Leo Varadkar claims he was elected Taoiseach I want to punch him in the gonads

    He was. Insofar as he was appointed by the Oireachtas, like all his predecessors. The electorate don't elect a Taoiseach.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭Ted Plain


    All I know is that the collective noun for politicians should be shower; a right shower of kunts politicians.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭Freddio


    Re Leo : Please stay on topic. His views of love actually are not solving the housing and drug problems


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    You gets what you votes for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    Freddio wrote: »

    24.3% of the voting electorate cast their vote for them.

    Politics should be about consensus, not letting the party that gets 50.1% of the vote f*ck over the other 49.9% of the country.

    (Not that that is happening, just in principle i mean.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭_ZeeK_


    "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices"

    - Orwell


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    _ZeeK_ wrote: »
    "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices"

    - Orwell

    And watch people vote in FF next election. And in 8/10 years time sit their scratching their heads when FF tank the economy, as they always do, on another property Ponzi scheme.

    But FG are no better.

    Taking a quote from George Carlin and amending it a little:
    Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from Irish parents and Irish families, Irish homes, Irish schools, Irish churches, Irish businesses and Irish universities, and they are elected by Irish citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Irish. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. F*ck Hope.”


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 646 ✭✭✭koumi


    He was. Insofar as he was appointed by the Oireachtas, like all his predecessors. The electorate don't elect a Taoiseach.

    I think it's time for a GE


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    koumi wrote: »
    I think it's time for a GE

    You really want FF back in power?

    Really?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Cowboys Ted the lot of em.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Cowboys Ted the lot of em.

    And we're paying for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭Freddio


    koumi wrote: »
    I think it's time for a GE

    Off topic: nothing will change


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    koumi wrote: »
    I think it's time for a GE

    Naw, it's time for a cull,

    I call open season on all politicians....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 646 ✭✭✭koumi


    You really want FF back in power?

    Really?

    FF wouldn't have the numbers, although I'm hoping they are desperate enough to collaborate with SF. Might as well sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    koumi wrote: »
    FF wouldn't have the numbers, although I'm hoping they are desperate enough to collaborate with SF. Might as well sure.

    That would not end well...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 646 ✭✭✭koumi


    That would not end well...
    :pac:

    why? The DUP are now powersharing in London


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭Freddio


    That would not end well...

    This is not Vincent Browne : I'm not looking for political commentary as to who might be the next batch of twits in Leinster house


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Freddio wrote: »
    This is not Vincent Browne : I'm not looking for political commentary as to who might be the next batch of twits in Leinster house

    All the same you can't ignore, they'll be whoever we vote for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭Freddio


    All the same you can't ignore, they'll be whoever we vote for.

    Unless the mechanism of governance is turn on its head . . .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Freddio wrote: »
    This is not Vincent Browne : I'm not looking for political commentary as to who might be the next batch of twits in Leinster house

    Why not?

    Whoever wins, we lose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Freddio wrote: »
    Unless the mechanism of governance is turn on its head . . .

    Do you have a magical mechanism in mind?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭Freddio


    Why not?

    Whoever wins, we lose.

    Exactly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭Freddio


    Do you have a magical mechanism in mind?

    I don't have a utopian dream that has never been tested, at the same time I believe there are enough intelligent people in the country with no vested interests who could put a system together. But these type of people are not the type to start revolutions


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Do you have a magical mechanism in mind?

    Capitalist Democracy doesn't work
    Communism doesn't work
    Scandinavian type Socialism would not work as Irish people would not be willing to pay the high taxes to fund the system

    Why not try a Technocracy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,759 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Capitalist Democracy doesn't work
    Communism doesn't work
    Scandinavian type Socialism would not work as Irish people would not be willing to pay the high taxes to fund the system

    Why not try a Technocracy?

    where has Capitalist Democracy been tried?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1



    Why not try a Technocracy?

    Because the Technocracy movement couldn't even get itself beyond a theory. Read William Akin's Technocracy and the American Dream.


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