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Freddio

https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0625/885367-halligan-ross-judicial-appointments/

Why do these people and their opinions matter?

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freshpopcorn

John Halligan got in on the fact that he was all about change and got the popular vote. He tries to keep this going for the next election.

Freddio

But the fact remains we are represented by gombeens across the board

SEPT 23 1989

We tolerate them and their system I think that's something they seem to forget

koumi

everytime Leo Varadkar claims he was elected Taoiseach I want to punch him in the gonads

[Deleted User]

koumi wrote: »

everytime Leo Varadkar claims he was elected Taoiseach I want to punch him in the gonads

He was. Insofar as he was appointed by the Oireachtas, like all his predecessors. The electorate don't elect a Taoiseach.

Ted Plain

All I know is that the collective noun for politicians should be shower; a right shower of kunts politicians.

Freddio

Re Leo : Please stay on topic. His views of love actually are not solving the housing and drug problems

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

You gets what you votes for.

Glenster

Freddio wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0625/885367-halligan-ross-judicial-appointments/

Why do these people and their opinions matter?

24.3% of the voting electorate cast their vote for them.

Politics should be about consensus, not letting the party that gets 50.1% of the vote f*ck over the other 49.9% of the country.

(Not that that is happening, just in principle i mean.)

_ZeeK_

"A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices"

- Orwell

Ulysses Gaze

_ZeeK_ wrote: »

"A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices"

- Orwell

And watch people vote in FF next election. And in 8/10 years time sit their scratching their heads when FF tank the economy, as they always do, on another property Ponzi scheme.

But FG are no better.

Taking a quote from George Carlin and amending it a little:

Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from Irish parents and Irish families, Irish homes, Irish schools, Irish churches, Irish businesses and Irish universities, and they are elected by Irish citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Irish. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. F*ck Hope.”

koumi

Deleted User wrote: »

He was. Insofar as he was appointed by the Oireachtas, like all his predecessors. The electorate don't elect a Taoiseach.

I think it's time for a GE

Ulysses Gaze

koumi wrote: »

I think it's time for a GE

You really want FF back in power?

Really?

RobbingBandit

Cowboys Ted the lot of em.

Ulysses Gaze

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Cowboys Ted the lot of em.

And we're paying for them.

Freddio

koumi wrote: »

I think it's time for a GE

Off topic: nothing will change

Poor Uncle Tom

koumi wrote: »

I think it's time for a GE

Naw, it's time for a cull,

I call open season on all politicians....

koumi

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

You really want FF back in power?

Really?

FF wouldn't have the numbers, although I'm hoping they are desperate enough to collaborate with SF. Might as well sure.

Ulysses Gaze

koumi wrote: »

FF wouldn't have the numbers, although I'm hoping they are desperate enough to collaborate with SF. Might as well sure.

That would not end well...

koumi

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

That would not end well...

:pac:

why? The DUP are now powersharing in London

Freddio

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

That would not end well...

This is not Vincent Browne : I'm not looking for political commentary as to who might be the next batch of twits in Leinster house

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Freddio wrote: »

This is not Vincent Browne : I'm not looking for political commentary as to who might be the next batch of twits in Leinster house

All the same you can't ignore, they'll be whoever we vote for.

Freddio

Melanie Better Banner wrote: »

All the same you can't ignore, they'll be whoever we vote for.

Unless the mechanism of governance is turn on its head . . .

Ulysses Gaze

Freddio wrote: »

This is not Vincent Browne : I'm not looking for political commentary as to who might be the next batch of twits in Leinster house

Why not?

Whoever wins, we lose.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Freddio wrote: »

Unless the mechanism of governance is turn on its head . . .

Do you have a magical mechanism in mind?

Freddio

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Why not?

Whoever wins, we lose.

Exactly

Freddio

Melanie Better Banner wrote: »

Do you have a magical mechanism in mind?

I don't have a utopian dream that has never been tested, at the same time I believe there are enough intelligent people in the country with no vested interests who could put a system together. But these type of people are not the type to start revolutions

Ulysses Gaze

Melanie Better Banner wrote: »

Do you have a magical mechanism in mind?

Capitalist Democracy doesn't work
Communism doesn't work
Scandinavian type Socialism would not work as Irish people would not be willing to pay the high taxes to fund the system

Why not try a Technocracy?

Wanderer78

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Capitalist Democracy doesn't work
Communism doesn't work
Scandinavian type Socialism would not work as Irish people would not be willing to pay the high taxes to fund the system

Why not try a Technocracy?

where has Capitalist Democracy been tried?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Why not try a Technocracy?

Because the Technocracy movement couldn't even get itself beyond a theory. Read William Akin's Technocracy and the American Dream.