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    #332
    TOss Sweep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭TOss Sweep


    Paladonia wrote: »
    Raoul wrote: »
    Nope. Players stay on each teams roster.

    So do playoff teams tend to raid unsuccessful teams, as those teams have little to no incentive to keep their star players?

    Nope as trade deadline will be long passed. So those players will be locked to those teams unless they release them.


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    #333
    gerryfed
    Registered Users Posts: 691 ✭✭✭gerryfed


    Anyone any interest in trading?

    My team is the 2 Gurleys 1 Cup ;) Hit me up!


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    #334
    Raoul
    Registered Users Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Raoul


    gerryfed wrote: »
    Anyone any interest in trading?

    My team is the 2 Gurleys 1 Cup ;) Hit me up!

    It may help to post in the leagues chat? :D


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    #335
    gerryfed
    Registered Users Posts: 691 ✭✭✭gerryfed


    Raoul wrote: »
    It may help to post in the leagues chat? :D

    Thought the league forum might be a reasonable place to post... but noted ;)


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    #336
    Raoul
    Registered Users Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Raoul


    gerryfed wrote: »
    Thought the league forum might be a reasonable place to post... but noted ;)

    Yeah this is the general thread, which league are you looking to trade in?


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    #337
    gerryfed
    Registered Users Posts: 691 ✭✭✭gerryfed


    Raoul wrote: »
    Yeah this is the general thread, which league are you looking to trade in?

    Haha sh*t, my bad!!

    Too many forums, too many leagues, too little sense...

    Back into my cave I go :P


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    #338
    Deco99
    Registered Users Posts: 1,642 ✭✭✭Deco99


    Trade question. Julio jones for derek carr and jordy Nelson. Julio owner is only playing consolation ladder but eli is his QB. Two owners are related. Veto or fair? Should never have let trade deadline this late


    Alot of newbs in league so have money back for winner of bottom half


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    #339
    gerryfed
    Registered Users Posts: 691 ✭✭✭gerryfed


    Deco99 wrote: »
    Trade question. Julio jones for derek carr and jordy Nelson. Julio owner is only playing consolation ladder but eli is his QB. Two owners are related. Veto or fair? Should never have let trade deadline this late


    Alot of newbs in league so have money back for winner of bottom half

    You definitely can't veto it in my eyes. QB7 & WR5 for WR3. You might not like the trade, or would rather be on a certain side... but definitely not 'veto-able'...


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    #340
    Marcus Antonius
    Registered Users Posts: 1,642 ✭✭✭Marcus Antonius


    Deco99 wrote: »
    Trade question. Julio jones for derek carr and jordy Nelson. Julio owner is only playing consolation ladder but eli is his QB. Two owners are related. Veto or fair? Should never have let trade deadline this late


    Alot of newbs in league so have money back for winner of bottom half

    Reeks of collusion! I'd agree with the above poster though, you might not like the trade but probably shouldn't veto it.


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    #341
    Realt Dearg Sec
    Registered Users Posts: 10,824 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Deco99 wrote: »
    Trade question. Julio jones for derek carr and jordy Nelson. Julio owner is only playing consolation ladder but eli is his QB. Two owners are related. Veto or fair? Should never have let trade deadline this late


    Alot of newbs in league so have money back for winner of bottom half



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    #342
    Guffy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭Guffy


    Its not collusion tbf. Def not vetoable. Not a great trade given he has eli but i don't think it collusion. I wouldn't do it but still.


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    #343
    TOss Sweep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭TOss Sweep


    Going to be one of those that is hard to tell whether it is collusion or not. It can certainly reek of it if one team is in the Winners bracket and the other not and the team in the winners bracket is getting the better deal. But without knowing them who knows. If at face value the trade is a decent trade then you can't call it collusion really especially seen as most trade deadlines are usually November 27th so the opportunity to trade is still there even if close to the playoffs


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    #344
    Guffy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭Guffy


    The only thing is, there is a prize for the winner of the consilation bracket


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    #345
    maverick_21
    Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭maverick_21


    Sounds like a dodgy trade to me but its hard to veto at the same time.


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    #346
    Raoul
    Registered Users Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Raoul


    gufc21 wrote: »
    The only thing is, there is a prize for the winner of the consilation bracket

    Yeah, if there is a prize for this then it is hard to say the trade is unfair.


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    #347
    TOss Sweep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭TOss Sweep


    Raoul wrote: »
    Yeah, if there is a prize for this then it is hard to say the trade is unfair.

    I would agree if that is the case as both have something to fight for in the playoffs. So taking it at face value nothing wrong with the trade really.


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    #348
    AirDemon
    Registered Users Posts: 210 ✭✭AirDemon


    I'm late to the party on this but anyway.... I can't see how it was an unfair trade but even if it was an unfair trade that doesn't mean it should be vetoed.
    If your league does not have a trade deadline then there is no reason to veto it because of timing even if a team has been eliminated from the playoffs.

    If the trade is unfair, as in one owner is giving up too much.... This still isn't a reason to veto. Just because you don't like a trade doesn't mean you can veto it. If I'm trading WR1 for the WR25 because I think this week WR25 will hit and WR1 won't and I have my reasons (stupid or not) then you can't veto my trade.

    Veto isn't there to control/limit other people's management of their team. Are you going to be willing to go back if the trade doesn't work out as you expect? Say that WR25 does hit, and the WR1 gets a 0... then the owner loses the game and misses out on the playoffs because of it. Are you willing to go back and say, you were right.... We screwed you, here's your money back.

    The ONLY reason to veto is if it looks like collusion... So the above example may look like collusion but jumping the gun and vetoing just because you decide you wouldn't like to do the trade or think one owner got a great deal isn't enough.

    I'd get rid of veto's completely, if you need to veto in a league it sounds like you need to ditch the league or the players colluding and get a new league.


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    #349
    AdamConnor7
    Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭AdamConnor7


    This is coming season will only be my second playing fantasy football on Boards.ie so I'm not sure if this is the right way to propose this but would there be much support for reducing the number of teams in a league? Personally I found that 16 was too much. I think 10 or 12 would be better. Just a thought..


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    #350
    Raoul
    Registered Users Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Raoul


    AdamConnor7 wrote: »
    This is coming season will only be my second playing fantasy football on Boards.ie so I'm not sure if this is the right way to propose this but would there be much support for reducing the number of teams in a league? Personally I found that 16 was too much. I think 10 or 12 would be better. Just a thought..
    Probably a bit late. There are 6 or 7 divisions now all comprised of 16 teams. It is tough but most of us are in 2 or 3 leagues and usually this 16 team league offers a different challenge to the other ones. So...stay with the 16 and just get in another smaller one too ;)


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    #351
    ftse100
    Registered Users Posts: 187 ✭✭ftse100


    I think 16 works well. If you want to do well you really have to stay on top of your team week in week out.


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    #352
    GoldFour4
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭GoldFour4


    love the challenge of a 16 man league. Anybody can win on any week really. With smaller leagues it can get very lopsided quickly. With a 16 man league you have to keep on top of your team every week and be wary of bye weeks etc to a far greater extent than in smaller leagues.


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    #353
    Beefy78
    Registered Users Posts: 8,163 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    Last year was my first year and to be honest I didn't enjoy the 16 man format. It just stretches the talent too thinly. That said, its just the reality of the number of players we've got. There's no real alternative so just need to get on with it :)


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    #354
    deccy15
    Registered Users Posts: 239 ✭✭deccy15


    When are we thinking of starting up for this season again??


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    #355
    Mr. Guappa
    Registered Users Posts: 7,705 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    I love the challenge of a competitive 16 team league. It can involve a lot of scratching around in a thin waiver wire, but the most memorable moments are when you pick up a one-week fill in and he explodes. I still remember starting DuJuan Harris last year for a 20-point haul.


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    #356
    maverick_21
    Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭maverick_21


    12- 14 would be ideal really. You lose a first or second round pick to injury in a 16 man league and its a catastrophe...You are dealing with dregs after round 6

    Saying that I did get Matty Ice in Round 12/13 last year so its not all bad ;-)


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    #357
    TOss Sweep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭TOss Sweep


    I am in the Prem and I enjoy the 16 man league. It one of the most competitive leagues I am in and I have been doing for years now. Everyone looks after their teams and fights to the very end. Its not easy at times but enjoyable.

    In my opinion we have been doing 16 man leagues for too long now to change and honestly I do think it is one rule that can never be voted on or changed. Keep at 16 man leagues and if you don't like it there are plenty of alternatives etc etc. It is what it is it aint what it aint.


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    #358
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,512 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    There is a bit of luck involved in a 16 man league as you can't plan for season ending injuries but it's really competitive.

    Last year I missed the draft and I got relegated, the year before I made the draft and lost in the final which kind of shows how important the draft is and how important preparation is.

    I'd hate to see it changed.


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    #359
    Adamcp898
    Registered Users Posts: 5,469 ✭✭✭Adamcp898


    Keep it 16 man, after years of it smaller leagues just feel like a constant carousel of the same players being dropped and added on waivers all year with the winner being the one with the most high value ones when the music stops.

    Plus, when we voted on rule changes a year or two ago wasn't it one of them we decided to keep?


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    #360
    hots
    Registered Users Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    What are the rules for the playoffs in the 16man league? There was a bit of confusion in Div7 (not bitter I swear :o). Is it 4*4team divisions and just winners got through?


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    #361
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,306 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    4 Division winners and best two runners-up. The runners-up can both be from the same division. Essentially same as NFL rules.


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