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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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  • #5972
    mfceiling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,990 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Lads you can post til the cows come home about conor landing this shot, the corkscrew left or whatever. The reality is Mayweather could probably fight him in a phone box and still not get hit. The man is phenomenal. I watched the build up to the canelo fight and was adamant that canelo would do a number on him. He barely got a glove close to him and believe me that Canelo has heavy hands (not saying conor hasnt). Can see CMG not laying a hand on Mayweather and being made look a fool.


  • #5973
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Burial. wrote: »
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    All night

    Conor has been really good friends with Berto for years, Berto was an early supporter of Conor going way back to 2014.

    Wouldn't overly surprise me to see him involved in some capacity during the camp.

    https://twitter.com/AndreBerto/status/516138784245948416


  • #5974
    Burial.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    wonderfullife wrote: »
    Conor has been really good friends with Berto for years, Berto was an early supporter of Conor going way back to 2014.

    Wouldn't overly surprise me to see him involved in some capacity during the camp.

    https://twitter.com/AndreBerto/status/516138784245948416

    Very wishful thinking.


  • #5975
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Burial. wrote: »
    Very wishful thinking.

    What is? Conor bringing in a few elite boxers to do some rounds? He's hardly going to shadow box the whole camp.

    He drafted in Conor Wallace for the Diaz 2 rematch for a good 8-weeks.


  • #5976
    Lukker-
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    Artem has been watching YouTube videos of Mayweather for 2 months now. They've got the training partners down

    Artem just has to box with the gloves on these yokes

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  • #5977
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    cletus wrote: »
    I think the difference here is that most mma fans, myself included, could not see any mma fighter 'dragging it out...making an example'.

    I would expect the mma fighter to go hard for a very quick finish, ala Toney Couture.

    I think that mma fans, again myself included, would assume that a boxer, facing a non boxer, in a boxing match, would look to finish their opponent, to demonstrate the gulf in ability. Why fight 12 rounds if you can finish in 5.

    Interesting points.

    I got this from a link posted above, kind of sums up Mayweathers approach when he is working.
    He won't. He likely could, but he won't. For one thing it simply won't suit him; if three million American households fork out $100 for a pay-per-view that Mayweather has shamelessly sold as competitive, and Mayweather ices his foe inside the opening minutes, there'll be holy war. It simply wouldn't be worth the fallout.

    Instead, Mayweather will box in ones and twos. He'll drop the odd flashy combination to snap McGregor's head back for the cameras. He'll dazzle with footwork, and he'll enjoy it. But his task will be to put on an exhibition, not to 'get in, get rich, and get out'.

    In any case, it's been a decade since Mayweather last exerted himself in search of a stoppage. He was once a legitimate puncher, but as he moved up through the divisions and developed as a fighter, he became more pragmatic. He has been leagues above the majority of his opponents - many of them future Hall of Famers, some of them current Hall of Famers - and by 2009 seemed to gain most satisfaction from comprehensively outclassing opponents from first bell to last, all the while taking as few risks as possible and cementing his legacy.

    As the fight progresses, it's unlikely that he'll go looking for a knockout. It would almost be beneath him, as he perceives it, at this stage in his career - particularly versus a boxing novice in what amounts to an exhibition fight. Mind you, he might not have to look too far, given McGregor - granite chin notwithstanding - will have been developing a defensive guard for all of six months, and generally refuses to move his head.


  • #5978
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Gintonious wrote: »
    Interesting points.

    I got this from a link posted above, kind of sums up Mayweathers approach when he is working.

    I don't agree with any of the above one iota.

    People loved Tyson because he was KO'ing guys stiff. Nobody was complaining they'd "wasted their money" on the PPV after seeing an amazing 1st round KO.

    If Floyd can, then he should try take Conor's head off his shoulders in the 1st round. He owes the public nothing.

    It's a fight.


  • #5979
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    When Conor riles him pre fight it might make him wanna destruct him and embarrass Conor, I expect his security team will be guarding the face offs.


  • #5980
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    wonderfullife wrote: »
    What is? Conor bringing in a few elite boxers to do some rounds? He's hardly going to shadow box the whole camp.

    He drafted in Conor Wallace for the Diaz 2 rematch for a good 8-weeks.

    He will have to get some pro's in for sure. As good as Wallace is, he wouldn't be getting you ready to go against Mayweather, or any pro, he himself is still an amateur.


  • #5981
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Conlon would be his best bet, interesting he hasnt planned on doing camp in Vegas this time.


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  • #5982
    cletus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,372 ✭✭✭cletus


    Yeah, I read that too. Maybe its an artifact of the amount of rounds that boxers would think in terms of taking rounds off etc.

    I readily admit that I came to boxing late, and my knowledge would be rudimentary at best.

    Mma fighters do take rounds off sometimes, but there are relatively fewer if them, so the margin might only be a round over three, rather than 2 over 12. Plus you can never tell how the refs are judging


  • #5983
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Conlon would be his best bet, interesting he hasnt planned on doing camp in Vegas this time.

    They'd be very foolish not to use the new UFC Performance Institute in Vegas for the last 4 weeks of camp. It's state of the art, brand new.


  • #5984
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    wonderfullife wrote: »
    I don't agree with any of the above one iota.

    People loved Tyson because he was KO'ing guys stiff. Nobody was complaining they'd "wasted their money" on the PPV after seeing an amazing 1st round KO.

    If Floyd can, then he should try take Conor's head off his shoulders in the 1st round. He owes the public nothing.

    It's a fight.

    2 very different animals my friend. Tyson was taught that from an early age by Cus, plus his power and speed was from another world.

    Even if Floyd can, he has no obligation to do anything, especially if he is dictating the pace of the fight. He could well finish it when he wants, or he could be enjoying himself and do the 12 rounds. He gets paid and he isn't under and orders.


  • #5985
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,042 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Mayweather will be looking to KO Conor. The picture will go around the world and it will speak for itself. He might even be getting a bonus for a KO


  • #5986
    Frank Bullitt
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    Gamebred wrote: »
    Conlon would be his best bet, interesting he hasnt planned on doing camp in Vegas this time.

    On that, Mayweather was sparring yesterday in his gym. Conor is driving around with his pal videoing themselves.

    Not that it says anything, but I sure hope he is on it soon.


  • #5987
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Gintonious wrote: »
    2 very different animals my friend. Tyson was taught that from an early age by Cus, plus his power and speed was from another world.

    Even if Floyd can, he has no obligation to do anything, especially if he is dictating the pace of the fight. He could well finish it when he wants, or he could be enjoying himself and do the 12 rounds. He gets paid and he isn't under and orders.

    I know but the article you quoted made the point that Floyd will stretch out the contest to give fans value for money.

    I completely disagree.

    If fans are going to be up-in-arms it will be if Floyd is jabbing and running for 36 minutes. Nobody will complain if this fight ends in an early highlight reel KO.


  • #5988
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Gintonious wrote: »
    On that, Mayweather was sparring yesterday in his gym. Conor is driving around with his pal videoing themselves.

    Not that it says anything, but I sure hope he is on it soon.

    You're honestly judging what Conor and Floyd did in their day based on 2x 30 second instagram posts?

    Jesus wept.


  • #5989
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    wonderfullife wrote: »
    You're honestly judging what Conor and Floyd did in their day based on 2x 30 second instagram posts?

    Jesus wept.

    Im judging what they are doing within the proximity of the announcement of their fight.

    A few have commented on Mayweather not taking him seriously in this fight, which is obviously not the case.


  • #5990
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Gintonious wrote: »
    Im judging what they are doing within the proximity of the announcement of their fight.

    A few have commented on Mayweather not taking him seriously in this fight, which is obviously not the case.

    Ok.

    Look they're both going to try do their best and win :)


  • #5991
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    wonderfullife wrote: »
    I know but the article you quoted made the point that Floyd will stretch out the contest to give fans value for money.

    I completely disagree.

    If fans are going to be up-in-arms it will be if Floyd is jabbing and running for 36 minutes. Nobody will complain if this fight ends in an early highlight reel KO.

    It depends on what you want from a fight. I am equally entertained by a KO as I am from a 12 round show of skill. Mayweather might just want to showboat for 12 rounds like he did against Berto, or make an example of McGregor and finish it in a few. You'd have to ask him.


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  • #5992
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Gintonious wrote: »
    It depends on what you want from a fight. I am equally entertained by a KO as I am from a 12 round show of skill. Mayweather might just want to showboat for 12 rounds like he did against Berto, or make an example of McGregor and finish it in a few. You'd have to ask him.

    Yep that's very common in UFC as well. I get the vibe from certain fighters like Khabib that they could finish it sooner but enjoy playing with their food before eating it.

    It could well go down this way.


  • #5993
    cletus
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    Gintonious wrote: »
    It depends on what you want from a fight. I am equally entertained by a KO as I am from a 12 round show of skill. Mayweather might just want to showboat for 12 rounds like he did against Berto, or make an example of McGregor and finish it in a few. You'd have to ask him.

    I really think that's the thing throwing non boxing fans here. The idea that he could finish him and not do it seems alien. Hence people saying if he doesn't get stopped then that's an achievement. Because that's definitely what he'll say


  • #5994
    cletus
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    wonderfullife wrote: »
    Yep that's very common in UFC as well. I get the vibe from certain fighters like Khabib that they could finish it sooner but enjoy playing with their food before eating it.

    It could well go down this way.

    I've never had that impression.

    The closest I could think of would be Anderson Silva, but most of his toying was really a ruse to get you to come forward so he could counter


  • #5995
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    cletus wrote: »
    I really think that's the thing throwing non boxing fans here. The idea that he could finish him and not do it seems alien. Hence people saying if he doesn't get stopped then that's an achievement. Because that's definitely what he'll say

    Exactly, especially the last point.

    Mayweather loves showing off, look at his cars, jewelry, houses etc, his boxing skills are exactly the same, he loves showing people that he is the best. What better way than to do it at something like this and still get his 50-0.


  • #5996
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,042 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    wonderfullife wrote: »
    Ok.

    Look they're both going to try do their best and win :)

    FM will want to make an example of CMG


  • #5997
    EagererBeaver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,718 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    If Mayweather wins all 12 rounds it'll be absolutely clear to everyone whether McGregor achieves something by staying in there against a guy unable to put him away or whether Mayweather just plays with him.


  • #5998
    scudzilla
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    Conor will win this one quite easily i'd say, an early KO, Floyd is past it


  • #5999
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    On the point that does conor really believe he can win?

    Yes I think he does. His self belief is unwavering. It's his biggest asset.

    You can call him deluded in this case. I accept that. But without his self belief he has less than no hope.


  • #6000
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,042 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    On the point that does conor really believe he can win?

    Yes I think he does. His self belief is unwavering. It's his biggest asset.

    You can call him deluded in this case. I accept that. But without his self belief he has less than no hope.

    I'd say Conor does think he can win. And good. It makes a contest out of it.


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  • #6001
    Jesus Wept
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    wonderfullife wrote: »
    As above, I 100% believe that Conor believes he will win.

    Not an element of doubt in my mind that he believes it. Ariel Helwani and Dana White have also sworn blind they believe that Conor believes it.

    He might be rereading the secret. In his heart of hearts, he doesn't believe it.


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