Not showing up to an exam?

akl98 · 09-06-2017 9:46pm #1

Just wondering if i decide not to show up to an exam will it be printed on my leaving cert as an NG or will it not appear at all?

clairewithani · 09-06-2017 9:47pm

akl98 wrote: »

Just wondering if i decide not to show up to an exam will it be printed on my leaving cert as an NG or will it not appear at all?

Why are you thinking of not showing up?

Digital Solitude · 09-06-2017 9:49pm

Can't answer your question, but sitting the exam is definitely a better idea than missing it.

I'd think it shows up as NG though.

09-06-2017 9:51pm

I skipped biology back in 2000. It doesn't show up on my results at all. Not an NG.

aon1998 · 09-06-2017 10:00pm

If there was a project/oral it will still show up

akl98 · 09-06-2017 10:05pm

I am shocking at applied maths and think I will fail it. It won't be counted in my top 6 even if I did show up and I would rather not have to put in the work just to fail .

clairewithani · 09-06-2017 10:06pm

akl98 wrote: »

I am shocking at applied maths and think I will fail it. It won't be counted in my top 6 even if I did show up and I would rather not have to put in the work just to fail .

Ok seems logical.

spurious · 09-06-2017 10:11pm

As aon1998 said, if there have been any marks submitted already, like for an oral, or practical or project, then if you do not show up for the exam you will be given the marks for the components already submitted.

aon1998 · 09-06-2017 10:12pm

akl98 wrote: »

I am shocking at applied maths and think I will fail it. It won't be counted in my top 6 even if I did show up and I would rather not have to put in the work just to fail .

I don't know what the general consensus will be here, but if that's how you feel then don't go in and sit it but make sure it isn't going to be decision you'll regret in the future and most importantly talk to people about it. Your parents probably won't be amused with the idea but maybe talk to other family relations and older friends.

It would also be good to give your school a call to get in touch with your teacher, they should know best.

freshpopcorn · 09-06-2017 10:14pm

What did you get in your pre?

akl98 · 09-06-2017 10:17pm

freshpopcorn wrote: »

What did you get in your pre?

i got 34% but I haven't been putting in any work recently because of other subjects

eeguy · 09-06-2017 10:27pm

Don't you need maths to get into any course?

Is applied maths different from regular maths?

clairewithani · 09-06-2017 10:28pm

akl98 wrote: »

i got 34% but I haven't been putting in any work recently because of other subjects

34% is a pretty good mark.

akl98 · 09-06-2017 10:31pm

eeguy wrote: »

Don't you need maths to get into any course?

Is applied maths different from regular maths?

yes it's different it's an extra subject

Jellybaby1 · 09-06-2017 11:25pm

A young man in my family dropped out of the whole LC at the very last minute because he just thought he was going to fail. Almost destroyed his parents. He has regretted it ever since - he is in his 30's now. Just thought you might like to know from a family who has gone through it. Pass or fail, he now wonders how he might have got on had he just turned up.

clairewithani · 09-06-2017 11:29pm

Jellybaby1 wrote: »

A young man in my family dropped out of the whole LC at the very last minute because he just thought he was going to fail. Almost destroyed his parents. He has regretted it ever since - he is in his 30's now. Just thought you might like to know from a family who has gone through it. Pass or fail, he now wonders how he might have got on had he just turned up.

Only one exam though. not the whole leaving cert.

PM me nudes · 09-06-2017 11:29pm

Jellybaby1 wrote: »

A young man in my family dropped out of the whole LC at the very last minute because he just thought he was going to fail. Almost destroyed his parents. He has regretted it ever since - he is in his 30's now. Just thought you might like to know from a family who has gone through it. Pass or fail, he now wonders how he might have got on had he just turned up.

Dropping out entirely vs skipping one exam isn't comparible

Jellybaby1 · 09-06-2017 11:32pm

Very true, but maths helps when it comes to jobs.

clairewithani · 09-06-2017 11:36pm

Jellybaby1 wrote: »

Very true, but maths helps when it comes to jobs.

The poster will still turn up for maths, just not applied maths, which is a separate subject.

akl98 · 10-06-2017 12:02am

Jellybaby1 wrote: »

A young man in my family dropped out of the whole LC at the very last minute because he just thought he was going to fail. Almost destroyed his parents. He has regretted it ever since - he is in his 30's now. Just thought you might like to know from a family who has gone through it. Pass or fail, he now wonders how he might have got on had he just turned up.

I am still doing the leaving cert just not one subject. I do 8 subjects so dropping my weakest one won't affect my points/college.

ger664 · 10-06-2017 12:16am

akl98 wrote: »

I am still doing the leaving cert just not one subject. I do 8 subjects so dropping my weakest one won't affect my points/college.

Spending 3-4 hours studying on another subject is probably a better option.

Bazinga_N · 10-06-2017 12:27am

Honestly I was in the exact same position as you OP last year regarding applied maths! Failed it for my pre and didn't bother much with it after that. If it's any consolation tho I did manage to get a C2 in the end, with a bit of work in the two days I had free before the exam, so you might surprise yourself.

If it is causing you stress tho and you honestly don't think you'll need it for points or anything, drop it! No point stressing yourself out, especially not during your other exams.

akl98 · 10-06-2017 12:32am

Bazinga_N wrote: »

Honestly I was in the exact same position as you OP last year regarding applied maths! Failed it for my pre and didn't bother much with it after that. If it's any consolation tho I did manage to get a C2 in the end, with a bit of work in the two days I had free before the exam, so you might surprise yourself.

If it is causing you stress tho and you honestly don't think you'll need it for points or anything, drop it! No point stressing yourself out, especially not during your other exams.

Yeah I have one full day before the exam so I'll see how confident I'm feeling then as I dont really want it to affect my other subjects. Thanks for the reply!

10-06-2017 12:36am

Go and do it. You might scrape a pass. What have you got to lose?

Good luck!!!! You can do it

evolving_doors · 10-06-2017 12:39am

Deleted User wrote: »

Go and do it. You might scrape a pass. What have you got to lose?

Good luck!!!! You can do it

Or the examiner might misprint a 36 to be 86!!!

freshpopcorn · 10-06-2017 12:42am

OP, I think your biggest fear is failing and always having it on your results correct?
I don't know what I'd do in your situation to be honest. The one thing I do know is once you go to college and get into your course.
You build your CV around your course and your leaving cert almost becomes forgotten about.

eeguy · 10-06-2017 1:15am

Also remember your mocks are marked much harder than the actual exam.
You'll probably pass if you show up. It's only 2 hours of your time. Never know what might come of it.

retro:electro · 10-06-2017 1:19am

Is it just that you don't want to be able to see it on the cert? I can honestly tell you that neither you nor anyone else will ever look at that cert again after that day. Mine is gathering dust in a folder and hasn't seen the light of day in 10 years. When applying for jobs just leave it out of your cv. After college nobody even bothers putting LC results down on CV. You probably won't fail it. 34% has potential to pass.

TheChizler · 10-06-2017 1:21am

Back in the day the first Applied Maths exam I passed was my leaving cert, and ended up getting the best grade in the year, so don't judge too much by the pre. I've never been asked for my LC transcript for employers, not even sure where it is. IMO you'll always be wondering if you don't do it. No idea how long until the exam but it's one of the last ones and you can fit a surprising amount of work in before it.

endacl · 10-06-2017 1:26am

clairewithani wrote: »

34% is a pretty good mark.

Indeed it is. It's better than 33 other percents.

Sirsok · 10-06-2017 1:27am

I did the irish oral and never showed for the written and it never turned up on my results

ahnowbrowncow · 10-06-2017 1:44am

endacl wrote: »

Indeed it is. It's better than 33 other percents.

Which ones?

uck51js9zml2yt · 10-06-2017 1:51am

My principal told me I'd no hope of passing Irish and maths after failing my mocks...I passed them both

Lady is a tramp · 10-06-2017 3:56am

Deleted User wrote: »

Go and do it. You might scrape a pass. What have you got to lose?

What good is scraping a pass if it's the lowest mark of his eight subjects? It won't be used for points anyways, and the time wasted doing the exam could be better used to get a better grade in one of the other subjects.

twowheelsonly · 10-06-2017 4:14am

Cory Whispering Weaponry wrote: »

My principal told me I'd no hope of passing Irish and maths after failing my mocks...I passed them both

Same as that but with LC Biology. Teacher at that time (we didn't like each other!!) told me I was wasting my time and hers by doing it. Took the honours paper as I said I'd be as well to go out with a bang.... pissed it and got a B

Lady is a tramp wrote: »

What good is scraping a pass if it's the lowest mark of his eight subjects? It won't be used for points anyways, and the time wasted doing the exam could be better used to get a better grade in one of the other subjects.

OP has said himself that he has a day or so before the exam so he can use that time which shouldn't cut across anything else. Aside from that you never know what's going to come up on the day so it's always worth a look. It might just all fall into place.

FWIW, I'd go in, have a look, don't put your number on the paper and walk out if it looks seriously bad. (You can always claim illness..) If nothing else it'll give peace of mind. How bad would you feel if you look at it afterwards and discover that you would have walked it ? Keep the options open anyway.

munster87 · 10-06-2017 8:14am

endacl wrote: »

Indeed it is. It's better than 33 other percents.

Wow, you just applied maths

daraghwal · 10-06-2017 10:17am

You're better off taking that day and doing the paper if it's not going to impact in any other exam. I was doing 8 subjects last year and was tempted to not go into one so I could study more for the one the next day. It turned out I did not count the opposite one that I thought I would. In fact the grades I got were the opposite of what I would have thought I would get. I am repeating this year but going into that exam brought my points up by about 30 when I expected it to not have an impact at all. I am repeating this year but that's because I knew I was going to be way off the points anyway and I dropped English and Irish because I'm useless at them and this year focused on the sciences that I am good at, maths, technology and french.

DaveyDave · 10-06-2017 10:18am

I agree with others in saying spend the time studying other subjects you're better at but I'd personally do the exam anyway and see what you come out at just chancing your arm.

I remember my English teacher told me I was going to do poorly and told me how bad my 38% grade was on the mock exam, ended up getting an A2 with barely any work. Clearly didn't like me...

endacl · 10-06-2017 7:09pm

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

Which ones?

Not sure. I'm no good at mathenomics.

10-06-2017 7:11pm

Lady is a tramp wrote: »

What good is scraping a pass if it's the lowest mark of his eight subjects? It won't be used for points anyways, and the time wasted doing the exam could be better used to get a better grade in one of the other subjects.

Because it's not all about points in the real world.
Most employers would like to know the candidate has a certain level of maths

What I'm saying is, even if the op doesn't want to spend anymore time studying for maths, surely it's better just to go and spend an hour or two anyway doing the exam and try bag a pass. Madness not to try

Lady is a tramp · 10-06-2017 7:14pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Because it's not all about points in the real world.
Most employers would like to know the candidate has a certain level of maths

What I'm saying is, even if the op doesn't want to spend anymore time studying for maths, surely it's better just to go and spend an hour or two anyway doing the exam and try bag a pass. Madness not to try

The thread isn't about Maths. It's about Applied Maths, completely separate subject.

spurious · 10-06-2017 7:14pm

twowheelsonly wrote: »

FWIW, I'd go in, have a look, don't put your number on the paper and walk out if it looks seriously bad. (You can always claim illness..) If nothing else it'll give peace of mind. How bad would you feel if you look at it afterwards and discover that you would have walked it ? Keep the options open anyway.

You can't leave the exam until 30 minutes has passed and the Superintendent will have entered him/her as present in that time. Even if he writes nothing on the paper it will still be marked.

judeboy101 · 10-06-2017 7:15pm

akl98 wrote: »

I am shocking at applied maths and think I will fail it. It won't be counted in my top 6 even if I did show up and I would rather not have to put in the work just to fail .

Do it . remember 30% @ higher is a pass otherwise drop to ord it is literally impossible to fail order applied maths if you have a very basic knowledge of q1,3,4,5

10-06-2017 7:15pm

Lady is a tramp wrote: »

The thread isn't about Maths. It's about Applied Maths, completely separate subject.

Ok do explain

Lady is a tramp · 10-06-2017 7:19pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Ok do explain

Maths is one of the subjects that is an essential requirement for just about every college course. You'd be an eejit not to at least sit it.

I've very rarely seen Applied Maths as a requirement, it's just another optional subject. If the OP is already doing English, Irish, Maths, plus a language (probably), plus three other subjects, they're probably well covered in terms of subject requirements. So long as they're confident that they'll get more points in six of their other seven subjects, the time spend studying for and sitting Applied Maths could well be better spent on last minute study for some of their other seven subjects (and even at that, points will only be counted for six of the seven.)

I'm not sure what sort of explanation you want? If you Google Applied Maths, I'm sure you'll get the syllabus for it.

10-06-2017 7:25pm

Lady is a tramp wrote: »

Maths is one of the subjects that is an essential requirement for just about every college course. You'd be an eejit not to at least sit it.

I've very rarely seen Applied Maths as a requirement, it's just another optional subject. If the OP is already doing English, Irish, Maths, plus a language (probably), plus three other subjects, they're probably well covered in terms of subject requirements. So long as they're confident that they'll get more points in six of their other seven subjects, the time spend studying for and sitting Applied Maths could well be better spent on last minute study for some of their other seven subjects (and even at that, points will only be counted for six of the seven.)

I'm not sure what sort of explanation you want? If you Google Applied Maths, I'm sure you'll get the syllabus for it.

No that's a perfect explanation. So the op is already doing a maths subject? I did google it :-)

I'd still sit the exam. Op might do well if they don't put pressure on themself

aidanathome · 10-06-2017 7:27pm

Deleted User wrote: »

No that's a perfect explanation. So the op is already doing a maths subject?

I'd still sit the exam. Op might do well if they don't put pressure on themself

Best guess is that they've already done half their Maths exam. The Applied Maths exam is on the 23rd:
https://www.examinations.ie/misc-doc/EN-EX-46999886.pdf

10-06-2017 7:29pm

aidanathome wrote: »

Best guess is that they've already done half their Maths exam. The Applied Maths exam is on the 23rd:
https://www.examinations.ie/misc-doc/EN-EX-46999886.pdf

I'm one of those old people now who is out of touch with reality it appears. I swore I wouldn't get old

Thanks

Lady is a tramp · 10-06-2017 7:34pm

aidanathome wrote: »

Best guess is that they've already done half their Maths exam. The Applied Maths exam is on the 23rd:
https://www.examinations.ie/misc-doc/EN-EX-46999886.pdf

Well no, not quite. The Applied Maths paper is not "half" or any part of the regular Ordinary/Higher level Maths paper that the OP is doing, it's an entirely different subject. And only one paper, as far as I remember. There's a lot of overlap with the HL Maths and with Physics, but they're not the same exam.

Nyctolust · 10-06-2017 7:48pm

Lady is a tramp wrote: »

Well no, not quite. The Applied Maths paper is not "half" or any part of the regular Ordinary/Higher level Maths paper that the OP is doing, it's an entirely different subject. And only one paper, as far as I remember. There's a lot of overlap with the HL Maths and with Physics, but they're not the same exam.

Pretty sure they mean OP already did half of the Maths exam, nothing about Applied Maths. As in they did Maths Paper 1 yesterday with the rest of the country and have Maths Paper 2 on Monday. Applied Maths is on the 23rd. No one said Applied Maths is "half" of any other subject.

spurious · 10-06-2017 8:41pm

If the superfluous eighth subject was always a fall-back and definitely won't be needed, by all means don't sit it if you don't want to.
I just hope wasting time on an eighth subject didn't take time away from the subjects you will actually count.

Not showing up to an exam?

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