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Dublin GAA Discussion Thread MOD WARNING POST #2944

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    corny wrote:
    Just as an aside.....McCarthy has to be one of the most fluent runners i've ever seen. I don't know how he does it but his timing of hitting the mans shoulder at the exact moment he needs to is unrivalled. The chap just breezes onto every pass at full pace without ever checking stride. Its amazing.

    He'd be my favourite Dublin player alright. He has the right amount of most things and can handle most physical exchanges

    ROC and MDMA would have been more important players as there were so few options if they went missing.

    But McCarthy tackles very well alright he's also very hard to get the ball from he's a very effective way of protecting the ball the way he holds it out from himself, it looks a little bit off sometimes but it's very effective. He draws men into him too. I'd he took it any further he'd be MDMA style carrying the ball into a tackle.

    All that said he's both wasted at midfield and not a midfielder at the same time.

    I think Kilkenny is a better midfielder. O'Sullivan was on the mix there too on Saturday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Stoner wrote: »
    He has a great kick on him when he's coming out of a tackle like M Murphy or MDMA it's inspiring stuff alright, when others are bunched having beaten the tackle he had a spare burst of speed in him.

    Exactly my thoughts on him. They got a fierce nice draw now with the Exiles in the Qualifiers. Hopefully they march on.

    I wouldn't be overly pessimistic anyway. That was a disciplined performance from a team who knew what their jobs were.

    It was a good day out for a first championship outing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    2011 final was on again last night so forced myself to watch it again.

    McCarthy and Philly look about 12! Was timely reminder of how long the core of this team have been on the road.

    As someone else said they owe nobody anything. But jaysus would be great to win another one and take the mantle of the greatest team ever from the Princes of the Pigskin :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    2011 final was on again last night so forced myself to watch it again.

    McCarthy and Philly look about 12! Was timely reminder of how long the core of this team have been on the road.

    As someone else said they owe nobody anything. But jaysus would be great to win another one and take the mantle of the greatest team ever from the Princes of the Pigskin :-)

    The 2003-2008 Tyrone team are gonna be fierce hard to wrestle that mantle from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    Wrestle being the operative word!

    (Only jesting jayop :-)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    Don't worry we have the Meath guy to call in to out Jayop Jayop next time around.

    I've the question to lure him into a thread all worked out and all.

    For what's it's worth I think that Meath team was better from the late 80's was better than them. As were the Dublin Kerry teams in the 1970's it's all relative though the conditioning of players now is the highest it has ever been.

    But it's only when that lad went through their forward line last week, it was a serious team


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    Ah jaysis Stoner I'm gonna have to get the dettol and disinfect the thread - have a look thru their thread and see how often they blow smoke up our holes ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Our team from the 00's was a great side but no one would argue they'd be the greatest side ever. One of the best groups of forwards playing together in my memory though.

    I feel a bit bad for winding that meath buck up but it was too easy. A one line post and he'd be gone like a spinning top.


    Edit :sorry I thought this was the championship thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    Jayop wrote: »
    ....

    Anyway, Tyrone Donegal conformed for clones. Supposed to be cheap tickets if you buy early but the gaa site being what it is the ticket link still isn't there.

    Straight to tickets.ie Jayop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    DoctaDee wrote:
    Ah jaysis Stoner I'm gonna have to get the dettol and disinfect the thread - have a look thru their thread and see how often they blow smoke up our holes

    You have my blessing to edit it just you mind !


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    DoctaDee wrote: »
    Straight to tickets.ie Jayop

    Yeah seen that after I posted.

    Again I digress, I was in the wrong thread altogether to be talking Ulster football tickets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    Jayop wrote: »
    Yeah seen that after I posted.

    Again I digress, I was in the wrong thread altogether to be talking Ulster football tickets.

    Ah sure come round anytime .. don't be a stranger .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    Stoner wrote: »
    You have my blessing to edit it just you mind !

    :D ... there's certain things that you can't openly admit to . fancying yer cousin, crying at the end of little house on the prairie and them being one of the great teams in my lifetime


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    DoctaDee wrote: »
    Ah sure come round anytime .. don't be a stranger .

    Thankfully unlike the soccer forum here you can go into another counties thread and not have it automatically assumed you're only purpose is to wind people up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    Jayop wrote: »
    Thankfully unlike the soccer forum here you can go into another counties thread and not have it automatically assumed you're only purpose is to wind people up.

    Ah yeah fair point .. I'd also like to assume that a poster can go into another county thread without having to genuflect .. doesn't take long to weed the WUMs and it's important that there's a balance when a bit of criticism is warranted ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    I say ban jayop and his strange nordie opinions. He'll be telling us next that Canavan didn't pick the ball off the ground in 1995... jaysus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    I say ban jayop and his strange nordie opinions. He'll be telling us next that Canavan didn't pick the ball off the ground in 1995... jaysus.

    giphy.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    Apologies if it has already been addressed, but Im wondering what Dubs are thinking on the whole Connolly debacle. Ive seen some fairly vociferous defences being offered across social media etc, claiming bias and 31v1 and all the rest of it, which got me thinking, in light of the recent criticism of Aidan O'Shea, and the belief that his getting away with whatever it was he was said to be getting away with, is the reason that mayo win nothing etc etc. Is there parallels there with the Dublin fans and Connolly?

    I think it is an interesting topic, with a lot of facets to it, for example what he did wasn't what you would class as highly aggressive, but then does it set a dangerous precedent? And was Paul Galvin any more aggressive? Furthermore, it is safe to say, Connolly made the gaa look foolish last time out, and he probably never should have gotten off. Will they look to get their man this time?

    One last thing I would say is I see Brolly is trying to drum up a bit of controversy by trying to engineer a loophole over on twitter. Id consider it not only completely self-serving, but actually quite inaccurate (if what he is claiming is true then no ref decision could ever be overturned by the CCCC once it has been made, which we already know is not the case), and I genuinely hope the dub fans dont let him grab the attention he so desperately craves. We all know he couldn't give a t*ss whether Connolly gets off or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭Squareball


    Confirmed......12 weeks it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    Squareball wrote:
    Confirmed......12 weeks it is.

    Good, that's it sorted so.

    Jayop is surprised, thankfully not amazed


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    https://twitter.com/drivetimerte/status/872130576597340161

    Barring a sticky quarter final draw it really won't make any significant difference.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Stoner wrote: »
    Good, that's it sorted so.

    Jayop is surprised, thankfully not amazed

    lol, Will they appeal it though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,430 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Jayop wrote: »
    lol, Will they appeal it though?

    I would be baffled if they do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Dublin will play a round 4b winner in the quarters. You'd want to be a mathematician to be able to figure out who could potentially be in that side of the draw.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    PARlance wrote: »
    I would be baffled if they do.

    Some slight grounds over the issue of whether the ref should have dealt with it at the time but it's weak reasoning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,430 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Jayop wrote: »
    Some slight grounds over the issue of whether the ref should have dealt with it at the time but it's weak reasoning.

    It was just a play on the amazed, surprised etc.
    Can't see them appealing all the same. If we were in July then I'm sure it would, but it's fairly cut and dry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    Jayop wrote: »
    Dublin will play a round 4b winner in the quarters. You'd want to be a mathematician to be able to figure out who could potentially be in that side of the draw.


    Most likely the Ulster final loser if they win their qualifier, by my, admittedly terrible!, calculation?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,449 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    Stoner wrote: »
    Good, that's it sorted so.

    Jayop is surprised, thankfully not amazed

    Deserved as well, not much room to defend it. Hopefully, best case scenario, he takes a look at his behaviour and realises that maybe, just maybe, the problem isn't everyone else, but rather himself.

    Really hope that there's no appeals as well, I actually think that this may do both him and the Dublin team a world of good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    CatInABox wrote: »
    Deserved as well, not much room to defend it. Hopefully, best case scenario, he takes a look at his behaviour and realises that maybe, just maybe, the problem isn't everyone else, but rather himself.

    Really hope that there's no appeals as well, I actually think that this may do both him and the Dublin team a world of good.

    He'll be 30 next month. You'd have to wonder how many years a good few of that top team have left in them. Not too many players playing for top level counties much beyond 31/32 any more.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    What a stupid thing to do.

    Cannot see Gavin parachuting him back in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    Tbh, good enough for him.

    Plenty of lads there chomping at the bit to stake a place in the team now.

    Could (potentially) be a positive thing for us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    Great opportunity for Scully/Basquel/Reddin to dig in for starting place


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    Where the **** is Costello???

    Keeping him back to slay Mayo again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Hopefully no appeal. Delighted it got done quick.

    Obviously there's going to be accusations of bias as to how quickly it was dealt with...

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    Slattsy wrote: »
    Where the **** is Costello???

    Keeping him back to slay Mayo again?

    Did his hammer(again) Slatts hurling with Whitehall


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,205 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Can Connolly now go in with the hurlers or does it apply to both codes?

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    My understanding is that he can't even train with his club..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    DoctaDee wrote: »
    Did his hammer(again) Slatts hurling with Whitehall

    Feckin shtick fighting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Hope there is no appeal and that he takes his punishment. Don't think that the incident itself (if it was any other player) was all that bad. I mean, how often do we see a player running up to a ref and shouting in his face and waving their hands in his face, or taking him by the arm and trying to convince him that the decision that he just made (to award a penalty or whatever,) is a load of bollocks. The refs never seem to mind, these situations where players invade their personal space. But Dermo needs to learn the lesson the hard way - that HIS actions do have consquences. Getting the odd black card here and there, is obviously not enough to make him stop and think before he reacts in situations. Maybe sitting out the entirety of a 12 week ban will bring home to him, loud and clear, how much he is letting himself & his teammates down by his childish and immature actions. Getting older is obviously not bringing the usual maturity with it. Perhaps knowing that he has let people down (again) will?

    I have very little time for the "he was provoked" or the "he doesn't get enough protection from the refs" excuses to condone his behaviour. Plenty of players come in for special treatement, yet very few of them over react the way he does. It's time for him to learn some impulse control, or suffer the consequences. And if the consequences are costing his county an All Ireland medal, so be it.

    There is a lot more at stake here, than just his intercounty football career. The rest of his life is far more important. He won't always be a star Dublin footballer. He won't always have Tony Hanahoe's crack team of solicitors on speed dial, with the DCB footing the bill. What happens, 10 years from now, if someone decides to have a go at him in a pub, or on the street, or at a game? Would much rather see him enter his post football days, equipped with the life skills to handle stressful and confrontational situations in an appropriate manner, than for him to win another AI medal.

    Apologies if that sounds a tad too Deepack Chopra-esque, but some things are more important than football !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,543 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    Hopefully no appeal. Delighted it got done quick.

    Obviously there's going to be accusations of bias as to how quickly it was dealt with...

    ;)

    It's only a proposed ban. I think the CHC have to ratify the ban before the inevitable appeal from Dublin will happen


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    Hope there is no appeal and that he takes his punishment. Don't think that the incident itself (if it was any other player) was all that bad. I mean, how often do we see a player running up to a ref and shouting in his face and waving their hands in his face, or taking him by the arm and trying to convince him that the decision that he just made (to award a penalty or whatever,) is a load of bollocks. The refs never seem to mind, these situations where players invade their personal space. But Dermo needs to learn the lesson the hard way - that HIS actions do have consquences. Getting the odd black card here and there, is obviously not enough to make him stop and think before he reacts in situations. Maybe sitting out the entirety of a 12 week ban will bring home to him, loud and clear, how much he is letting himself & his teammates down by his childish and immature actions. Getting older is obviously not bringing the usual maturity with it. Perhaps knowing that he has let people down (again) will?

    I have very little time for the "he was provoked" or the "he doesn't get enough protection from the refs" excuses to condone his behaviour. Plenty of players come in for special treatement, yet very few of them over react the way he does. It's time for him to learn some impulse control, or suffer the consequences. And if the consequences are costing his county an All Ireland medal, so be it.

    There is a lot more at stake here, than just his intercounty football career. The rest of his life is far more important. He won't always be a star Dublin footballer. He won't always have Tony Hanahoe's crack team of solicitors on speed dial, with the DCB footing the bill. What happens, 10 years from now, if someone decides to have a go at him in a pub, or on the street, or at a game? Would much rather see him enter his post football days, equipped with the life skills to handle stressful and confrontational situations in an appropriate manner, than for him to win another AI medal.

    Apologies if that sounds a tad too Deepack Chopra-esque, but some things are more important than football !

    to be honest, Connolly reminds me a lot of Paul Galvin and this situation is very reminiscent of his indiscretion with Paddy Russell. That too was in the scheme of things very minor, but got a serious ban mainly because of his history. The parallels are quite similar, advanced in their career (Galvin was in his 29th year at the time) a history of being talented but prone to reacting when provoked, AI winners and team leaders, considered being dropped due to the baggage they bring etc. Galvin went on from that to become footballer of the year the next season (although still had the fishhook incident afterwards) but in the main, he let his football do the work. Connolly has it in him to do the same, its just a matter of he he too can learn from this.

    But he needs to be told to cop on. An awful lot of the social media stuff out there are in defence of him. Its only on here that I have really seen any sort of agreement from Dublin fans that he needs to cop on. If he gets people telling him he is hard done by, then he wont learn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,247 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    look past connoly lads guy has a terrible attitude and very little regard for other players which is disgusting tbh...

    Dublin have 3 or 4 players there looking to take that spot, he is a liability.....

    gonna say this now as a Kildare man I have never been more envious of a squad of players in my time amazing group of players you have and a joy to watch.

    I think you will kick it up a gear or two and lift sam again and I honestly hope you do.

    but if you play us ill be screaming abuse lol

    all friends after though

    good luck this summer and as I said good riddance Connolly


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    While i agree the correct decision was reached i don't see the harm in appealing. If Keegan or Geaney were hit with a similar ban guilty or not Mayo and Kerry would take it all the way. Other than placating the anti dubs movement i don't see why we should be above that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,247 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    corny wrote: »
    While i agree the correct decision was reached i don't see the harm in appealing. If Keegan or Geaney were hit with a similar ban guilty or not Mayo and Kerry would take it all the way. Other than placating the anti dubs movement i don't see why we should be above that.
    to be fair mayo and Kerry do not have the playerbase you have to choose from. although that doesn't make it right.... you don't need him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    corny wrote: »
    While i agree the correct decision was reached i don't see the harm in appealing. If Keegan or Geaney were hit with a similar ban guilty or not Mayo and Kerry would take it all the way. Other than placating the anti dubs movement i don't see why we should be above that.

    Oh it'll be appealed I'd be nearly 100% certain


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Dots1982


    DoctaDee wrote: »
    Oh it'll be appealed I'd be nearly 100% certain

    I would say it won't but we'll see.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭PeterTheNinth


    It will be appealed and he will get off. Connolly always gets off.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    to be fair mayo and Kerry do not have the playerbase you have to choose from. although that doesn't make it right.... you don't need him

    Ah we kind of do need him DARK-KNIGHT. His shenanigans seem to have blinded some to his effectiveness. Made it easy for them to magnify his faults as it were.

    For me, he's one of a kind late in the game if its in the balance. I could rattle off 20+ important games where he's been the difference for us at vital times. Do you ignore that or drop him because he likes playing on the edge and getting an odd card? Nah i don't. Accept he's a headcase who won't change and do everything you can to get him on the pitch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    Dots1982 wrote: »
    I would say it won't but we'll see.

    It shouldn't be but these things grow a life of their own
    It will be appealed and he will get off. Connolly always gets off.

    Ah we're dealing with misconduct involving match officials - it would send out the wrong message completely if he walks on a technicality (and neither should he)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    It will be appealed and he will get off. Connolly always gets off.


    He got off the red card against Donegal in 2011 because it was an obvious dive by McHugh (?)!

    This is different, he technically "assaulted" a match official. I be surprised if Dublin appeal it to be honest.


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