Gardaí to deploy armed units in 5 Irish cities

hatrickpatrick · 05-06-2017 12:13PM

FernLeaf wrote: »

There has been at least one case of a young "hitman" on his way to a hit, arrested and upon examination his pistol was found to have all the bullets loaded BACKWARDS in the magazine. People like that don't need training.

PLEASE tell me you can remember a link to this story, preferably from a tabloid which doesn't hold back on the well deserved ridicule and sarcasm

RobbingBandit · 05-06-2017 12:14PM

Time for a coup, they're gonna dig up Dev turn him into a cyborg and we'll have civil war 2.0

Tigger · 05-06-2017 12:18PM

FernLeaf wrote: »

Ah that's all well and good however my issue is the conscription, the "antos" of the country don't need conscription. We have a large portion of dim criminals in this country and providing them with firearms training could only be a bad thing. There has been at least one case of a young "hitman" on his way to a hit, arrested and upon examination his pistol was found to have all the bullets loaded BACKWARDS in the magazine. People like that don't need training.

Link me o this backwards bullets loading please

Persephone kindness · 05-06-2017 12:20PM

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Time for a coup, they're gonna dig up Dev turn him into a cyborg and we'll have civil war 2.0

I'll get me rosary beads.

razorblunt · 05-06-2017 12:32PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

What about rural Ireland - when will they get armed units? Healy-Rae's on the case as we speak.

They're not the heroes we want, they're the heroes we need.

Out to get some Baaad Boys.

Persephone kindness · 05-06-2017 12:35PM

razorblunt wrote: »

They're not the heroes we want, they're the heroes we need.

Out to get some Baaad Boys.

:pac:

Persephone kindness · 05-06-2017 12:37PM

My cousin is in the Army. It's a very serious solemn professional job. It requires calmness. EXTREME CALM UNDER EXTREME PRESSURE.

Safe to say it's not what you think and they are not looking for what you think.

MysticMonk · 05-06-2017 12:53PM

FernLeaf wrote:

Ah that's all well and good however my issue is the conscription, the "antos" of the country don't need conscription. We have a large portion of dim criminals in this country and providing them with firearms training could only be a bad thing. There has been at least one case of a young "hitman" on his way to a hit, arrested and upon examination his pistol was found to have all the bullets loaded BACKWARDS in the magazine. People like that don't need training.

Do you think the US or British Army is made up of geniuses?

Royal Legend · 05-06-2017 02:58PM

TheChizler wrote: »

Poor Waterford must feel hard done by.

We have an ARU in Waterford already, see them around everyday, so we are ahead of the posse on this one.

And Kilkenny's not a city anyway, just a large town like Navan or Drogheda

Peregrine · 05-06-2017 03:03PM

Lads, it's a ****e journal acticle based to what thejournal has 'learned'. Don't assume any of it to be factual.

CeilingFly · 05-06-2017 03:11PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

So we're expecting to be able to stop a random lone wolf who may not have made any indication anywhere of how he or she is thinking, even though we can't apparently do anything about the Kinahan scumbags practically obliterating an entire family over the course of a year even though everybody knows who is involved and where they live?

Most of the kinahan mob live in Spain and middle east. Gardai have no power outside Republic of Ireland

You say nothing is being done? What do you want? A weekly newsletter about covert operations. That's just a ridiculous comment.

Yes gardai have not covered themselves in glory, but vast majority are good, some are exceptional. Armed response units are extremely well trained.

Even with the kinahan / hutch issue, the murder rate in Ireland is extremely low. In Chicago with 2.7m people (40% lower than Ireland) over 700 people were murdered last year! Now that's a city with a problem!

Widdershins · 05-06-2017 03:20PM

Noveight wrote: »

We have armed units, they're called farmers

Yeah, there's a small handful around here, all either elderly or young but generally drunk or useless. I wonder if more people in rural Ireland are going to develop a new interest in hunting, for which they'll need to apply for a gun license...

kub · 05-06-2017 03:26PM

RobertKK wrote:

Dublin have the Garda armed support unit operating there for a while now, as it fights the feuding drug gangs, but now also for terrorism reasons. Cork, Galway, Limerick and kilkenny will from 7pm today will have the Garda armed support units (ASU) deployed and making a visible presence in the above cities. This is due to terrorism concerns and according to the Journal "the ASU will be making its presence clear where intelligence has indicated potential threats to national security."

RobertKK wrote:

So the above cities are considered the higher risk cities for a terrorist event.

OP who ever wrote that article did not do much research.

RustyNut · 05-06-2017 03:39PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

What about rural Ireland - when will they get armed units? Healy-Rae's on the case as we speak.

I'd say isis are sh1ting themselves.

Roger Hassenforder · 05-06-2017 03:40PM

Markcheese wrote: »

They're always around Cork city anyway.. What's the difference? You'd see them whizzing round the city in audi 4x4s sometimes at checkpoints...

in fairness, they dont whizz around at the checkpoints, they usually just stand there!

hatrickpatrick · 05-06-2017 03:46PM

CeilingFly wrote: »

Most of the kinahan mob live in Spain and middle east. Gardai have no power outside Republic of Ireland

You say nothing is being done? What do you want? A weekly newsletter about covert operations. That's just a ridiculous comment.

Yes gardai have not covered themselves in glory, but vast majority are good, some are exceptional. Armed response units are extremely well trained.

Even with the kinahan / hutch issue, the murder rate in Ireland is extremely low. In Chicago with 2.7m people (40% lower than Ireland) over 700 people were murdered last year! Now that's a city with a problem!

I think you're missing my point. I'm not having a go at the Gardai but at the courts - as far as I'm concerned, Kinahan and his associates should have been jailed for life in Ireland long before they had a chance to move to Spain or anywhere else. We have a ridiculous level of light touch sentencing in our courts and what I'm saying is that I can easily foresee a scenario in which the Gardai work their asses off to catch dangerous, actively plotting jihadists - only for some idiot judge to let them go with a good stern talking to after listening to some bullsh!t sob stories about their unhappy childhoods or some such bollocks.

Atoms for Peace · 05-06-2017 03:54PM

c_man wrote: »

I think there's a ready solution to the potential problems of what our European neighbours are going through.

1 - Declare martial law. We all know it's really the civil service that run the country, so the army will just let them get on with it and get rid of the political circus.

2 - Conscription. Everyone to do a five year tour in the armed services. Defence spending to rocket. Encourage local suppliers where possible to boost the economy.

3 - Massively increase the number of Gardai. Bring in harsher sentences for repeat offenders. How can we focus on the danger of terrorism if the Gardai are busy picking up Anto every week for his two hundredth and something conviction for beating up old people?

4 - The retired officer class from the Army will be required to keep arms and ammunition in their homes. Concealed carry permits will also be issued to them.

5 - Ordinary citizens will have to partake in a thorough training course, and pass numerous background checks in order to get a concealed carry licence.

6 - Secondary school curriculum will include first aid training and self defence classes (how to deal with knife attacks too) as a mandatory subject.

We should also outlaw hard currency, enslave the welsh and introduce eugenics. :rolleyes:

Widdershins · 05-06-2017 03:58PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I think you're missing my point. I'm not having a go at the Gardai but at the courts - as far as I'm concerned, Kinahan and his associates should have been jailed for life in Ireland long before they had a chance to move to Spain or anywhere else. We have a ridiculous level of light touch sentencing in our courts and what I'm saying is that I can easily foresee a scenario in which the Gardai work their asses off to catch dangerous, actively plotting jihadists - only for some idiot judge to let them go with a good stern talking to after listening to some bullsh!t sob stories about their unhappy childhoods or some such bollocks.

We already have an element of that when we want to deport known terrorists, thanks to the alleged risk of torture.

It seems to depend heavily upon the personality of the judge, at the end of the day.

vixdname · 05-06-2017 04:01PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

What about rural Ireland - when will they get armed units? Healy-Rae's on the case as we speak.

Yeah, just heard that his plan is that in between "Terror Related Incidents" in Kerry that these armed units would be responding to, he will have them cutting the Rhododendrons in Killarney

vixdname · 05-06-2017 04:07PM

FernLeaf wrote: »

Ah that's all well and good however my issue is the conscription, the "antos" of the country don't need conscription. We have a large portion of dim criminals in this country and providing them with firearms training could only be a bad thing. There has been at least one case of a young "hitman" on his way to a hit, arrested and upon examination his pistol was found to have all the bullets loaded BACKWARDS in the magazine. People like that don't need training.

Bollocks talk, bullets will only fit into a magazine ONE WAY and can NEVER be put in backwards.
The magazine cannot be put into a gun backwards either so where ever you heard this "Fact" I'd call bull**** on it.

BorneTobyWilde · 05-06-2017 04:25PM

If there was an attack I'd be running towards it, I have more hate for them than they could ever have for me. I'd only love the chance to take one down.

source · 05-06-2017 04:32PM

What a crap article, they'd want to send their 'journalists' back to school to learn how to research.

The Regional Support Unit ((RSU) not the Armed Support Unit because ASU was already taken by the Air Support Unit) has been active in Limerick and Cork since 2008.

It was active in the other regions in the years after, and it was only rolled out in Dublin last year.

05-06-2017 04:46PM

vixdname wrote: »

Bollocks talk, bullets will only fit into a magazine ONE WAY and can NEVER be put in backwards.
The magazine cannot be put into a gun backwards either so where ever you heard this "Fact" I'd call bull**** on it.

Bullets can indeed be put into a magazine backwards. Magazine won't fit into the gun backwards though. Dunno what could happen if you tried to shoot a bullet that was put in backwards, nothing id imagine, not great I'd you're hired to kill someone

Mech1 · 05-06-2017 05:16PM

vixdname wrote: »

Bollocks talk, bullets will only fit into a magazine ONE WAY and can NEVER be put in backwards.
The magazine cannot be put into a gun backwards either so where ever you heard this "Fact" I'd call bull**** on it.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/05/08/hk-bullets-real-story/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxsWSmmFn6Q

TheChizler · 05-06-2017 05:37PM

Royal Legend wrote: »

We have an ARU in Waterford already, see them around everyday, so we are ahead of the posse on this one.

And Kilkenny's not a city anyway, just a large town like Navan or Drogheda

As do most other places on that list.

Gadgetman496 · 06-06-2017 01:02AM

skydish79 wrote: »

Where are these extra gardai coming from, FG like the Tory government spreading existing sources too thinly

Leitrim!

Gardaí to deploy armed units in 5 Irish cities

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