Gardaí to deploy armed units in 5 Irish cities

RobertKK · 05-06-2017 11:21AM #1

http://www.thejournal.ie/armed-support-units-irish-cities-terror-watch-3427293-Jun2017/

Dublin have the Garda armed support unit operating there for a while now, as it fights the feuding drug gangs, but now also for terrorism reasons.
Cork, Galway, Limerick and kilkenny will from 7pm today will have the Garda armed support units (ASU) deployed and making a visible presence in the above cities.
This is due to terrorism concerns and according to the Journal "the ASU will be making its presence clear where intelligence has indicated potential threats to national security."

So the above cities are considered the higher risk cities for a terrorist event.

Persephone kindness · 05-06-2017 11:23AM

I see. Well I trust our guards.

namloc1980 · 05-06-2017 11:23AM

Cork and Limerick have had Armed Support Units for years. Is this different?

TheChizler · 05-06-2017 11:24AM

Poor Waterford must feel hard done by.

Markcheese · 05-06-2017 11:25AM

They're always around Cork city anyway.. What's the difference? You'd see them whizzing round the city in audi 4x4s sometimes at checkpoints...

nice_guy80 · 05-06-2017 11:25AM

TheChizler wrote: »

Poor Waterford must feel hard done by.

Minister Halligan will no doubt be on the airwaves about this

up for anything · 05-06-2017 11:27AM

Kilkenny? :eek:

namloc1980 · 05-06-2017 11:27AM

What about rural Ireland - when will they get armed units? Healy-Rae's on the case as we speak.

Persephone kindness · 05-06-2017 11:28AM

I really really hope and pray that they are never needed.

Peregrine · 05-06-2017 11:29AM

The regions have had RSU years before DMR got the ASU.

Today’s directive marks a departure for the ASU by sending members of its 55-strong force to other cities around the country.

Why the hell would the DMR's armed support go patrolling the other cities? And split a 55-man unit into five? Even if you were to get the whole unit working at the same time, you'd be reducing ASU presence in Dublin to a small fraction.

Do they mean all armed support units will patrol the cities? i.e. ASU in Dublin and other region's RSUs in their cities? Because that's very different to a 55-man ASU being split into five.

Noveight · 05-06-2017 11:31AM

I met the armed Gardaí at a checkpoint in Ennis a few weeks back, pretty intimidating when you're not used to seeing them.

Noveight · 05-06-2017 11:32AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

What about rural Ireland - when will they get armed units?

We have armed units, they're called farmers

D0NNELLY · 05-06-2017 11:33AM

Persephone kindness wrote: »

I really really hope and pray that they are never needed.

Great.

myshirt · 05-06-2017 11:35AM

Persephone kindness wrote: »

I really really hope and pray that they are never needed.

Light a few candles.

Samaris · 05-06-2017 11:35AM

I am surprised that Waterford isn't included. I know poor old Waterford is generally left out (and to be left out in favour of Kilkenny will no doubt be particularly galling!) but that case of funds being channelled to ISIS a couple of weeks ago was in Waterford, so outside Dublin and Cork, it's one of the few cities where there has actually been any sort of links made afaik.

Seems a bit odd! I hope there is some form of protection during Spraoi (local festival) though.

Persephone kindness · 05-06-2017 11:36AM

myshirt wrote: »

Light a few candles.

Instead of cursing the darkness? I like it

deal

Oops69 · 05-06-2017 11:43AM

These ASU cars/audi q7,s are all over Dublin , including patrolling the m50 and temple bar , looks like its just the usual dopy unarmed Gardai just having a go in the new cars .

HeidiHeidi · 05-06-2017 11:46AM

Oops69 wrote: »

These ASU cars/audi q7,s are all over Dublin , including patrolling the m50 and temple bar , looks like its just the usual dopy unarmed Gardai just having a go in the new cars .

You might want to pop in to Specsavers over the next few days.....

BadBannana · 05-06-2017 11:47AM

Bit of a bad article. The RSU has been going for years

D0NNELLY · 05-06-2017 11:50AM

BadBannana wrote: »

Bit of a bad article. The RSU has been going for years

From the journal? Who'd have thunk it.

smaoifs · 05-06-2017 11:50AM

Samaris wrote:

I am surprised that Waterford isn't included. I know poor old Waterford is generally left out (and to be left out in favour of Kilkenny will no doubt be particularly galling!) but that case of funds being channelled to ISIS a couple of weeks ago was in Waterford, so outside Dublin and Cork, it's one of the few cities where there has actually been any sort of links made afaik.

According to John Hearne, we're not getting it in Waterford because we already have it due to these previous connections.
(Source: a question posted on David Cullinane's Facebook page which John Hearne answered)

Oops69 · 05-06-2017 11:54AM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

You might want to pop in to Specsavers over the next few days.....

No-one believes any of the pr put out by the Gardai after recent events , visible or through the media, I include the livery on these vehicles as Garda pr .

c_man · 05-06-2017 11:55AM

I think there's a ready solution to the potential problems of what our European neighbours are going through.

1 - Declare martial law. We all know it's really the civil service that run the country, so the army will just let them get on with it and get rid of the political circus.

2 - Conscription. Everyone to do a five year tour in the armed services. Defence spending to rocket. Encourage local suppliers where possible to boost the economy.

3 - Massively increase the number of Gardai. Bring in harsher sentences for repeat offenders. How can we focus on the danger of terrorism if the Gardai are busy picking up Anto every week for his two hundredth and something conviction for beating up old people?

4 - The retired officer class from the Army will be required to keep arms and ammunition in their homes. Concealed carry permits will also be issued to them.

5 - Ordinary citizens will have to partake in a thorough training course, and pass numerous background checks in order to get a concealed carry licence.

6 - Secondary school curriculum will include first aid training and self defence classes (how to deal with knife attacks too) as a mandatory subject.

Samaris · 05-06-2017 11:57AM

smaoifs wrote: »

According to John Hearne, we're not getting it in Waterford because we already have it due to these previous connections.
(Source: a question posted on David Cullinane's Facebook page which John Hearne answered)

Ah, fair enough!

Persephone kindness · 05-06-2017 11:58AM

c_man wrote: »

I think there's a ready solution to the potential problems of what our European neighbours are going through.

1 - Declare martial law. We all know it's really the civil service that run the country, so the army will just let them get on with it and get rid of the political circus.

2 - Conscription. Everyone to do a five year tour in the armed services. Defence spending to rocket. Encourage local suppliers where possible to boost the economy.

3 - Massively increase the number of Gardai. Bring in harsher sentences for repeat offenders. How can we focus on the danger of terrorism if the Gardai are busy picking up Anto every week for his two hundredth and something conviction for beating up old people?

4 - The retired officer class from the Army will be required to keep arms and ammunition in their homes. Concealed carry permits will also be issued to them.

5 - Ordinary citizens will have to partake in a thorough training course, and pass numerous background checks in order to get a concealed carry licence.

6 - Secondary school curriculum will include first aid training and self defence classes (how to deal with knife attacks too) as a mandatory subject.

Sounds like mighty craic.

Sounds ...like SWITZERLAND! They actually do that there.

hatrickpatrick · 05-06-2017 12:02PM

So we're expecting to be able to stop a random lone wolf who may not have made any indication anywhere of how he or she is thinking, even though we can't apparently do anything about the Kinahan scumbags practically obliterating an entire family over the course of a year even though everybody knows who is involved and where they live?

I'm calling bullsh!t. Our justice system is a mess. If the Gardai manage to catch any Isis sympathisers, they will be rightly and deservedly praised for their diligent detective work. And while we're all distracted by the aforementioned show of support, some moron judge will give the arrestees a typical Irish suspended sentence and they'll be back plotting before the Gardai have time to say "what the actual f*ck".

FernLeaf · 05-06-2017 12:03PM

Ah that's all well and good however my issue is the conscription, the "antos" of the country don't need conscription. We have a large portion of dim criminals in this country and providing them with firearms training could only be a bad thing. There has been at least one case of a young "hitman" on his way to a hit, arrested and upon examination his pistol was found to have all the bullets loaded BACKWARDS in the magazine. People like that don't need training.

wakka12 · 05-06-2017 12:07PM

c_man wrote: »

I think there's a ready solution to the potential problems of what our European neighbours are going through.

1 - Declare martial law. We all know it's really the civil service that run the country, so the army will just let them get on with it and get rid of the political circus.

2 - Conscription. Everyone to do a five year tour in the armed services. Defence spending to rocket. Encourage local suppliers where possible to boost the economy.

3 - Massively increase the number of Gardai. Bring in harsher sentences for repeat offenders. How can we focus on the danger of terrorism if the Gardai are busy picking up Anto every week for his two hundredth and something conviction for beating up old people?

4 - The retired officer class from the Army will be required to keep arms and ammunition in their homes. Concealed carry permits will also be issued to them.

5 - Ordinary citizens will have to partake in a thorough training course, and pass numerous background checks in order to get a concealed carry licence.

6 - Secondary school curriculum will include first aid training and self defence classes (how to deal with knife attacks too) as a mandatory subject.

That seems like a lot. And I doubt it would have changed the outcome of the Manchester terror attack at all

Persephone kindness · 05-06-2017 12:08PM

wakka12 wrote: »

That seems like a lot. And I doubt it would have changed the outcome of the Manchester terror attack at all

Ah yeah but it would be laugh

skydish79 · 05-06-2017 12:09PM

Where are these extra gardai coming from, FG like the Tory government spreading existing sources too thinly

Dirty Dingus McGee · 05-06-2017 12:11PM

c_man wrote: »

I think there's a ready solution to the potential problems of what our European neighbours are going through.

1 - Declare martial law. We all know it's really the civil service that run the country, so the army will just let them get on with it and get rid of the political circus.

2 - Conscription. Everyone to do a five year tour in the armed services. Defence spending to rocket. Encourage local suppliers where possible to boost the economy.

3 - Massively increase the number of Gardai. Bring in harsher sentences for repeat offenders. How can we focus on the danger of terrorism if the Gardai are busy picking up Anto every week for his two hundredth and something conviction for beating up old people?

4 - The retired officer class from the Army will be required to keep arms and ammunition in their homes. Concealed carry permits will also be issued to them.

5 - Ordinary citizens will have to partake in a thorough training course, and pass numerous background checks in order to get a concealed carry licence.

6 - Secondary school curriculum will include first aid training and self defence classes (how to deal with knife attacks too) as a mandatory subject.

I assume you have already volunteered to serve in the Army by now?

Gardaí to deploy armed units in 5 Irish cities

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