London terror attack confirmed by Met Police

Mr.Micro · 05-06-2017 12:42PM

Persephone kindness wrote: »

We are entirely bankrupt without the EU make no mistake.

Totally agree. We can't even get an Garda to work right.

Really Interested · 05-06-2017 12:42PM

testaccount123 wrote: »

You know one of these jihadis had Irish ID on him?

My understanding is his wife was Scottish, meaning if she moves within the EU her husband gets by right a EU Fam residency. Because of EU law if she then moves back to UK EU law continues to apply.

jmayo · 05-06-2017 12:43PM

enfant terrible wrote: »

Would it not be easier and cheaper to revoke their passports and pay some country to take them in, perhaps their parents birth country.

As was found with Berlin attacker his home country was refusing to take the sack of shyte back.

Who could blame them, all he had ever done was live a life of crime and had fled jail.

ChikiChiki · 05-06-2017 12:43PM

Mr.Micro wrote: »

Where is this bankrupt little country going to get its funding from if it sets up its own rules outside the EU. It has not even got an adequate functioning police force. Don't make me laugh, we need all the help we can get, lol.

Im pro EU but it needs to be reformed. The current leadership are abysmal. We as Europeans are being led to the abyss.

Would you prefer to stay wealthy for few more years at the cost of your culture? "Heres the extra funding from Brussels, just take another 20,000 migrants on top of the 20,000 already resettled". Its crazy to be honest without vetting and in the longer run we will end up poorer for it.

Romantic Rose · 05-06-2017 12:44PM

Really Interested wrote: »

My understanding is his wife was Scottish, meaning if she moves within the EU her husband gets by right a EU Fam residency. Because of EU law if she then moves back to UK EU law continues to apply.

I honestly wonder if any background checks were ever done on him?

Dyr · 05-06-2017 12:45PM

Persephone kindness wrote: »

We don't have an issue with extremists here. Our Muslim community is warm and we take few refugees. And it is actually hard to get into Ireland from outside the EU.
t.

Like that lovely fella who was slitting throats last night.

Muslim Brotherhood funding the biggest mosque in Ireland but all lovely people no doubt, doctors and such. Reassuringly middle class. Like the ****ers who firebombed Glasgow airport

No trouble a brewing here. No sir

Mountainsandh · 05-06-2017 12:45PM

MPFGLB wrote: »

hey they do make their view known ....many Imans up and down Britain have condemned the attacks

But I don't remember Irish people 'turning up' on mass at Canary Wharf or Manchester shopping centre when the Irish paramilitaries bombed them....because I guess we didn't think the IRA spoke for the Irish and why should the Irish we feel responsible for a few terrorist who were bombing in our name

Nearly all Muslims in Britain are not responsible for these few extremists

Ridiculous anti Muslim rhetoric is part of the problem and is born out of ignorance

You're missing the point completely.
I don't give a toss about Muslims apologizing to non-Muslims.
I'm talking about Muslims themselves having more power to prevent radicalization within their midst by speaking out.
But carry on with your mis-directed rant.

Biggest lickspittle on boardz · 05-06-2017 12:45PM

enfant terrible wrote: »

and revoking British passports for suspected ISIS supporters returning from Syria etc

No, just order them killed like the French have started doing. Why take the risk of letting them back in?

http://www.newsweek.com/france-help-iraq-military-find-kill-citizens-isis-report-617894

Really Interested · 05-06-2017 12:45PM

enfant terrible wrote: »

You'd hope that there is going to be serious pressure now to use it a lot more.

Any person who it can be shown is fighting in ME for any side should have the law invoked.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/6/section/2

Let them challenge it but at least show if you want to pick up arms in another countries war then UK is going to make life difficult.

05-06-2017 12:45PM

Persephone kindness wrote: »

Integration is the key thing. Don't curse the darkness be the light.

airy fairy comments about darkness and light are what is wrong with western civilisation, too much of that line of thinking got us into this mess

Mr.Micro · 05-06-2017 12:46PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Im pro EU but it needs to be reformed. The current leadership are abysmal. We as Europeans are being led to the abyss.

Would you prefer to stay wealthy for few more years at the cost of your culture? "Heres the extra funding from Brussels, just take another 20,000 migrants ontop of the 20,000 already resettled". Its crazy to be honest.

We are stuck with the EU. We take EU money and the rules that go with it. So we need to deal with the facts.

testaccount123 · 05-06-2017 12:49PM

Really Interested wrote: »

My understanding is his wife was Scottish, meaning if she moves within the EU her husband gets by right a EU Fam residency. Because of EU law if she then moves back to UK EU law continues to apply.

The point is he lived here. There are more of them here. We have the highest return rate from fighting in the middle east in Europe. They are fundraising here. Gards were searching houses around here just last week.

More are coming because the lefties can't have anyone opposing them coming because brown people.

youtube! · 05-06-2017 12:49PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Why? Irish people never did it when the IRA killed a couple of kids in Warrington!

http://articles.latimes.com/1993-03-29/news/mn-16546_1_ira-s-bombing

From now on your views can safely be ignored.

MPFGLB · 05-06-2017 12:50PM

Mountainsandh wrote: »

You're missing the point completely.
I don't give a toss about Muslims apologizing to non-Muslims.
I'm talking about Muslims themselves having more power to prevent radicalization within their midst by speaking out.
But carry on with your mis-directed rant.

They have 'power' or as much as any in communities...you talk about a religion as if everyone who is a Muslin is the same (just like every catholic is the same from a Bishop to a teenager ?)

Maybe you don't know (or want to know) but the Mayor of London is a Muslim..one of the most powerful offices in the world

You are showing your ignorance on this topic plus your need to belittle others arguments with accusations of rants ....no one is ranting ...just becasue you dont like the points being made ..pathetic really

Dyr · 05-06-2017 12:50PM

Mr.Micro wrote: »

We are stuck with the EU. We take EU money and the rules that go with it. So we need to deal with the facts.

Thing is that Angela shat all over the EU rules with zero consequence when she opened the floodgates

And ze germans have previous form for solo runs like that when it suits them

We're an Island nation and we were granted exemptions before based on that.

Hank Scorpio · 05-06-2017 12:52PM

I still can't believe some people won't accept what's happening or that it can't happen here. Sweden opened their arms to these people and they've been pissed on in return, such is the denial censorship is in full swing over there to hide it.

Mr.Micro · 05-06-2017 12:54PM

Bambi wrote: »

Thing is that Angela shat all over the EU rules with zero consequence when she opened the floodgates

And ze germans have previous form for solo runs like that when it suits them

We're an Island nation and we were granted exemptions before based on that.

Tell the boys in the Dail that. We are a small little country and we need the EU more than it needs us.

Timberrrrrrrr · 05-06-2017 12:54PM

youtube! wrote: »

http://articles.latimes.com/1993-03-29/news/mn-16546_1_ira-s-bombing

From now on your views can safely be ignored.

And every other bomb that was planted by them?

Here's Muslims after the Westminster attack

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/muslim-women-stand-solidarity-london-terror-attack-victims-westminster-bridge-khalid-masood-a7651361.html%3Famp

And after the Manchester attack

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/metro.co.uk/2017/05/27/hundreds-of-muslim-children-march-to-manchester-arena-to-pay-tribute-to-22-victims-6665632/amp/

But the usual "Lock em up/kill em all" brigade arent happy with that they feel every single muslim in the uk should go out and apologise personally for the actions of a few, these terrorists do not act on behalf of the entire muslim population in the same way the IRA did not act on behalf of the entire Irish population.

Irish Praetorian · 05-06-2017 12:54PM

Mr.Micro wrote: »

We are stuck with the EU. We take EU money and the rules that go with it. So we need to deal with the facts.

Im really not seeing the eu as the central problem here, it hasnt been polish people blowing people up in the name of rula lenski thats caused the trouble. The only issue surrounding the eu that gives pause is this common refugee policy and were not doing terribly out of that yet.

Mountainsandh · 05-06-2017 12:58PM

MPFGLB wrote: »

Again if Irish people were not marching on Canary Warf or Manchester shopping centre were they/we condoning and supporting terrorism ??..

And as I said many Muslims all day and at all level condemn these attacks

but the IRA did thing on behalf of the Irish ....who was marching against them at the time ?? Infact most were going on blanket marches

You're still not getting it.
I will try to parallel with IRA since it seems easier to understand for you.
We are saying that Mammy, and auntie Sharon and uncle Jimmy have more influence over keeping little Mickey out of terrorist influence than anyone else, especially if they have a good old natter about how evil them terrorists are with anyone who'll care to listen.
Little Mickey will listen to them more, and it will imprint in little Mickey's brain a lot better if Mammy and Auntie Sharon are not afraid to go on the telly and such.

Oh btw making a religion with millions people responsible for a few filled with hate is Islamophobia and is rife on here

Showing you haven't read the thread. That's fine, just that parachuting yourself in with such comments more than 100 pages in doesn't entice anyone to take it (the post) seriously.

Really Interested · 05-06-2017 01:01PM

Irish Praetorian wrote: »

Im really not seeing the eu as the central problem here, it hasnt been polish people blowing people up in the name of rula lenski thats caused the trouble. The only issue surrounding the eu that gives pause is this common refugee policy and were not doing terribly out of that yet.

The issue may be the abuse of treaty rights by people. Either through real or paid for marriages to bypas more strict state laws on spousal visas.

For example Ireland and UK if you are a spouse of a non EEA national, you must have minimum income to sponsor. In Ireland it can take a long time to get permission. If that same Irish persons moves to say the UK their spouse will get a temporary working permission, final decision must be made within 6 months. While state security can be invoked it very rarely is.

testaccount123 · 05-06-2017 01:02PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

But the usual "Lock em up/kill em all" brigade arent happy with that they feel every single muslim in the uk should go out and apologise personally for the actions of a few, these terrorists do not act on behalf of the entire muslim population in the same way the IRA did not act on behalf of the entire Irish population.

Who cares what Muslims think. The sad truth is the more Muslims you get in the population the worse things get. Thats why people oppose mass Islamic immigration.

Dyr · 05-06-2017 01:04PM

Really Interested wrote: »

For example Ireland and UK if you are a spouse of a non EEA national, you must have minimum income to sponsor. .

Dunno if you noticed but Muslim nutters aren't short of sponsors with a few bob and their missus is going to be worried about a work permit

The_Kew_Tour · 05-06-2017 01:05PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

But the usual "Lock em up/kill em all" brigade arent happy with that

What posters said that here?

Timberrrrrrrr · 05-06-2017 01:07PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

What posters said that here?

There have been several.posters who want internment and a couple who have advocated "dumping them at sea" ill.let you do the search if you want to know who.

MPFGLB · 05-06-2017 01:08PM

https://twitter.com/JamzLdn/status/871144747972390912

I will leave this here before i leave this thread to the 'lock all Muslimse up and preventing from coming here..they are all bad ' madness...

By the way Mountainsandh if you have to insult someone and use belittling language shows you have lost the argument or are out of your depth...

Bye

Mountainsandh · 05-06-2017 01:08PM

MPFGLB wrote: »

They have 'power' or as much as any in communities...you talk about a religion as if everyone who is a Muslin is the same (just like every catholic is the same from a Bishop to a teenager ?)

Maybe you don't know (or want to know) but the Mayor of London is a Muslim..one of the most powerful offices in the world

You are showing your ignorance on this topic plus your need to belittle others arguments with accusations of rants ....no one is ranting ...just becasue you dont like the points being made ..pathetic really

I have read this entire thread. Have you ?
You would be better able to assess me and my level of ignorance, and my comments if you did.
I comment on other threads about this same issue too if you'd like to get a better idea.

But enough about me and you, that's off topic really.

Help!!!! · 05-06-2017 01:09PM

MPFGLB wrote: »

hey they do make their view known ....many Imans up and down Britain have condemned the attacks

But I don't remember Irish people 'turning up' on mass at Canary Wharf or Manchester shopping centre when the Irish paramilitaries bombed them....because I guess we didn't think the IRA spoke for the Irish and why should the Irish we feel responsible for a few terrorist who were bombing in our name

Nearly all Muslims in Britain are not responsible for these few extremists

Ridiculous anti Muslim rhetoric is part of the problem and is born out of ignorance

Why are you bringing the IRA into it again??

Really Interested · 05-06-2017 01:10PM

Bambi wrote: »

Dunno if you noticed but Muslim nutters aren't short of sponsors with a few bob and their missus is going to be worried about a work permit

In UK they also have language test, also civics test. Under EU law all local State tests are bypassed. The misses does not need a work permit to move to Ireland. After 6 months they can move back to UK and presto the EU rules apply. When they get divorced same as EU law applies and the non EEA citizen can get the EU right in their own name.

Phoebas · 05-06-2017 01:10PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

What posters said that here?

If you go back to early on in the thread we had suggestions to 'drown them at sea'.
And we've had internment as a possible solution.

So, I think that just about covers it.

London terror attack confirmed by Met Police

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