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London terror attack confirmed by Met Police

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  • #1832
    Biggest lickspittle on boardz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 558 ✭✭✭Biggest lickspittle on boardz


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It has a better chance of reducing the terror attacks than leaving the known activists on the streets.


    I must strongly disagree with this. It would quadruple the number of terror threats. The victim complex is already on steroids within the Muslim community, this would only radicalise more people.

    It would be a PR disaster. Better off to use a 'surgical strike' approach by neutralising known radical preachers, seizing money/cutting off finance lines, and straight up destroying any known fighters who are overseas.


  • #1833
    jmayo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Muslims in Ireland are highly educated doctors and the like. Apparently anyway.

    Yeah just like all those "Syrian refugees".
    Phoebas wrote: »
    Internment again.
    Do people think that would be successful?

    And temporary martial law? Really?

    We nearly have martial law in some states or haven't you noticed the number of soldiers patrolling streets and areas in France already.

    Why the hell are some people so against interning people already known to have links to jihadis or active in trying to contact jihadis?

    It is getting impossible to keep so many people under tabs and they are managing to attack and kill innocent citizens whilst the state authorities sit back and do nothing.

    MPFGLB wrote: »
    Jesus some people on her are so ridiculous...ban immigration of British to Ireland ??

    And what should Britain do with the millions of Irish living there ?

    I know many Muslims of all level of religious adherence and this is not about a religion

    To insist that it is is both ignorant and ridiculous

    This is about extremism that occurs in any and all religions and with any and all people

    Yeah yeah we have heard this ad infinitum at this stage.
    But the fact is it is only the muslim extremists that are the ones blowing themselves up, running people down, slitting peoples throats in this part of the world and for that matter throughout the world.
    MPFGLB wrote: »
    Banning a religion is not feasible and will not help ....

    Most terrorists are home grown ...
    Most immigrants are people looking for shelter and opportunity ...

    You mean like the Tunisian in Berlin, the Uzbek in Stockholm, the Tunisian in Nice and now possibly a Moroccan in London ?

    And I have not even bothered listing all the Eritrean, Somali, Afghani rapists and murderers that have arrived in Europe over the last few years.
    MPFGLB wrote: »

    these arguments are infantile and biased

    I couldn't have put it better myself.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • #1834
    Romantic Rose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭Romantic Rose


    _Whimsical_ wrote: »
    Its on sky now that one of the terrorists in London had an Irish identity card on him on Saturday night and had lived in Dublin for a time.
    Irish Gardai now helping Met with their inquiries.

    Ah jaysus. I'm fed up of this crap. I don't know anyone who wants open immigration and borders. It was forced down our throats particularly in the last 10 years.

    I believe in multiculturalism but I honestly don't want people coming to live here who have polar opposite views on life and equality. It's a retrograde step when the Catholic Church are only starting to lose their grip on power.

    It's time to get picky. Australia are doing it so I can't see why we can't.


  • #1835
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,896 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MPFGLB wrote: »
    hey they do make their view known ....many Imans up and down Britain have condemned the attacks

    But I don't remember Irish people 'turning up' on mass at Canary Wharf or Manchester shopping centre when the Irish paramilitaries bombed them....because I guess we didn't think the IRA spoke for the Irish and why should the Irish we feel responsible for a few terrorist who were bombing in our name

    Nearly all Muslims in Britain are not responsible for these few extremists

    Ridiculous anti Muslim rhetoric is part of the problem and is born out of ignorance
    The point is that "moderate" Muslims really need to come out and proclaim that these acts are "not in our name", they have to make it known that they do NOT support or condone these actions that are done "in the name of Allah!"


  • #1836
    enfant terrible
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,737 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »
    I must strongly disagree with this. It would quadruple the number of terror threats. The victim complex is already on steroids within the Muslim community, this would only radicalise more people.

    It would be a PR disaster. Better off to use a 'surgical strike' approach by neutralising known radical preachers, seizing money/cutting off finance lines, and straight up destroying any known fighters who are overseas.

    and revoking British passports for suspected ISIS supporters returning from Syria etc


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  • #1837
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Romantic Rose wrote: »
    Ah jaysus. I'm fed up of this crap. I don't know anyone who wants open immigration and borders. It was forced down our throats particularly in the last 10 years.

    I believe in multiculturalism but I honestly don't want people coming to live here who have polar opposite views on life and equality. It's a retrograde step when the Catholic Church are only starting to lose their grip on power.

    It's time to get picky. Australia are doing it so I can't see why we can't.

    Australia are picky, im here and they have cut back on the 457 visas since I came out a few months back. And I respect them for it. I can see why they would do it. Fcuk being dictated to by Berlin. Time to take control back of our own borders as is way out of hand.

    The migrant crisis, whilst intentions are good, bringing all the refugees to Europe with uncontrolled checks is a huge trojan horse. Merkel is a fool.


  • #1838
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The point is that "moderate" Muslims really need to come out and proclaim that these acts are "not in our name", they have to make it known that they do NOT support or condone these actions that are done "in the name of Allah!"

    When they did that yesterday, you described them as 'actors'. Can't win.

    Incidentally, I lived in London during the IRA bombing campaign there, and whenever there was an incident, I tended just to keep my head down. I suspect a lot of moderate Muslims in the UK are feeling the same.


  • #1839
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,872 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The point is that "moderate" Muslims really need to come out and proclaim that these acts are "not in our name", they have to make it known that they do NOT support or condone these actions that are done "in the name of Allah!"

    Why? Irish people never did it when the IRA killed a couple of kids in Warrington!


  • #1840
    Really Interested
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Really Interested


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The point is that "moderate" Muslims really need to come out and proclaim that these acts are "not in our name", they have to make it known that they do NOT support or condone these actions that are done "in the name of Allah!"

    http://www.mcb.org.uk/london-bridge-attack-muslim-council-of-britain/

    “I am appalled and angered by the terrorist attacks at London Bridge and Borough Market, in my home city. These acts of violence were truly shocking and I condemn them in the strongest terms."


  • #1841
    Persephone kindness
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    Whatever the issue. We have to find an non inflammatory way of discussing it.

    We don't have an issue with extremists here. Our Muslim community is warm and we take few refugees. And it is actually hard to get into Ireland from outside the EU.

    Of course we must take precautions. But speaking in the way some are has little to do with those precautions.

    And in fact will divide us more.

    Integration is the key thing. Don't curse the darkness be the light.


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  • #1842
    Romantic Rose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭Romantic Rose


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Australia are picky, im here and they have cut back on the 457 visas since I came out a few months back. And I respect them for it. I can see why they would do it. Fcuk being dictated to by Berlin. Time to take control back of our own borders as is way out of hand.

    I have a sister living in Perth and she had to jump through hoops to get permanent residency. If she wasn't going to be add to the country, she was on the first plane out of there. Rightly so.


  • #1843
    Persephone kindness
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The point is that "moderate" Muslims really need to come out and proclaim that these acts are "not in our name", they have to make it known that they do NOT support or condone these actions that are done "in the name of Allah!"
    I know personally of people in Ireland who have done this. I know them personally.


  • #1844
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,917 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Really Interested wrote: »
    My guess is it will be announced that Qatar is the paymaster for the London attack.

    Knives are expensive.


  • #1845
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Persephone kindness wrote: »
    Whatever the issue. We have to find an non inflammatory way of discussing it.

    We don't have an issue with extremists here. Our Muslim community is warm and we take few refugees. And it is actually hard to get into Ireland from outside the EU.

    Of course we must take precautions. But speaking in the way some are has little to do with those precautions.

    And in fact will divide us more.

    Integration is the key thing. Don't curse the darkness be the light.


    Wasnt too hard for the London attacker to live freely here, get your head out of the sand.


  • #1846
    Really Interested
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Really Interested


    enfant terrible wrote: »
    and revoking British passports for suspected ISIS supporters returning from Syria etc

    The law has existed since 2015, used once since then. Law introduced by May, when they have used it the guy entered the UK using his Afghanistan passport.


  • #1847
    MPFGLB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The point is that "moderate" Muslims really need to come out and proclaim that these acts are "not in our name", they have to make it known that they do NOT support or condone these actions that are done "in the name of Allah!"

    Again if Irish people were not marching on Canary Warf or Manchester shopping centre were they/we condoning and supporting terrorism ??..

    And as I said many Muslims all day and at all level condemn these attacks

    but the IRA did thing on behalf of the Irish ....who was marching against them at the time ?? Infact most were going on blanket marches

    Oh btw making a religion with millions people responsible for a few filled with hate is Islamophobia and is rife on here


  • #1848
    Persephone kindness
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Wasnt too hard for the London attacker to live freely here, get your head out of the sand.
    There is sand in my bum.:P


  • #1849
    Romantic Rose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭Romantic Rose


    Persephone kindness wrote: »
    Whatever the issue. We have to find an non inflammatory way of discussing it.

    We don't have an issue with extremists here. Our Muslim community is warm and we take few refugees. And it is actually hard to get into Ireland from outside the EU.

    Of course we must take precautions. But speaking in the way some are has little to do with those precautions.

    And in fact will divide us more.

    Integration is the key thing. Don't curse the darkness be the light.

    We don't YET! The operative word is YET. What we have to worry about is when and where. Not who because we already know who will do it. I just hope that it is no one in my family or friends who is hurt.


  • #1850
    Really Interested
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Really Interested


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Knives are expensive.

    It's the support and promise of pension to family members of the muppets that costs money.


  • #1851
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,917 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Why? Irish people never did it when the IRA killed a couple of kids in Warrington!
    Sure about that?


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  • #1852
    Mr.Micro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Australia are picky, im here and they have cut back on the 457 visas since I came out a few months back. And I respect them for it. I can see why they would do it. Fcuk being dictated to by Berlin. Time to take control back of our own borders as is way out of hand.

    The migrant crisis, whilst intentions are good, bringing all the refugees to Europe with uncontrolled checks is a huge trojan horse. Merkel is a fool.

    Where is this bankrupt little country going to get its funding from if it sets up its own rules outside the EU. It has not even got an adequate functioning police force. Don't make me laugh, we need all the help we can get, lol.


  • #1853
    enfant terrible
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,737 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    jmayo wrote: »
    Why the hell are some people so against interning people already known to have links to jihadis or active in trying to contact jihadis?

    It is getting impossible to keep so many people under tabs and they are managing to attack and kill innocent citizens whilst the state authorities sit back and do nothing.

    Would it not be easier and cheaper to revoke their passports and pay some country to take them in, perhaps their parents birth country.


  • #1854
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,499 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Persephone kindness wrote: »
    Whatever the issue. We have to find an non inflammatory way of discussing it.

    We don't have an issue with extremists here. Our Muslim community is warm and we take few refugees. And it is actually hard to get into Ireland from outside the EU.

    Of course we must take precautions. But speaking in the way some are has little to do with those precautions.

    And in fact will divide us more.

    Integration is the key thing. Don't curse the darkness be the light.

    Are you confident that we have no problems here? We had extremist fund raising in Waterford, a London attacker living here but yeah we've no problem at all. None.


  • #1855
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Dont remember the IRA shouting this is for the people of Ireland when they bombed England, what I do know is these scum were preaching their religion of peace Allah chants as they butchered people, slight difference tbf.


  • #1856
    testaccount123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    Persephone kindness wrote: »

    We don't have an issue with extremists here. Our Muslim community is warm and we take few refugees. And it is actually hard to get into Ireland from outside the EU.

    You know one of these jihadis had Irish ID on him?


  • #1857
    Persephone kindness
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    Mr.Micro wrote: »
    Where is this bankrupt little country going to get its funding from if it sets up its own rules outside the EU. It has not even got an adequate functioning police force. Don't make me laugh, we need all the help we can get, lol.
    We are entirely bankrupt without the EU make no mistake.


  • #1858
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    testaccount123 wrote: »
    You know one of these jihadis had Irish ID on him?

    And he presumably came from the UK with whom we have a CTA.


  • #1859
    neverever1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    Why aren't there British marches and demonstrations against the murder by their forces of innocents in the Middle East? It should be happening every day shouldn't it? Or do British people support the murder of innocents?
    The same thing can be said about British people not protesting as about Muslims.


  • #1860
    MPFGLB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    What needs to be tackled is extremism.....that is the issue for all terrorists ..
    It happens to be about extremist Muslims at the moment
    In the 70s it was extremist Irish Nationalist

    More needs to be done to infiltrate and bring these extremists to book

    The IRA was neutralised by Irish politicians....extremist Muslims will and need to be neutralised by Muslim leaders, the police and the government

    Stop having Cobra meeting after the fact
    Put more money and resources into this
    Up the security services with Muslim recruits who can infiltrate
    Enforce the anti terror laws better


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  • #1861
    enfant terrible
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,737 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    Really Interested wrote: »
    The law has existed since 2015, used once since then. Law introduced by May, when they have used it the guy entered the UK using his Afghanistan passport.

    You'd hope that there is going to be serious pressure now to use it a lot more.


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