London terror attack confirmed by Met Police

MPFGLB · 05-06-2017 12:08PM

Phoebas wrote: »

I think it would be difficult to prevent British immigration to Ireland, what with the CTA and all that.
Should closing that off be a stance we take in the Brexit negotiations?

Jesus some people on her are so ridiculous...ban immigration of British to Ireland ??

And what should Britain do with the millions of Irish living there ?

I know many Muslims of all level of religious adherence and this is not about a religion

To insist that it is is both ignorant and ridiculous

This is about extremism that occurs in any and all religions and with any and all people

Banning a religion is not feasible and will not help ....

Most terrorists are home grown ...
Most immigrants are people looking for shelter and opportunity ...

Most Irish are immigrants to one country or another ...

these arguments are infantile and biased

Help!!!! · 05-06-2017 12:08PM

Phoebas wrote: »

Internment again.
Do people think that would be successful?

And temporary martial law? Really?

Do nothing?? Walk around with candles?? More people killed?? Repeat??

namloc1980 · 05-06-2017 12:09PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

And we would all die if they were not here

We would "all die"...all of us? Dead? Get a grip.

Roger Hassenforder · 05-06-2017 12:10PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

Do nothing?? Walk around with candles?? More people killed?? Repeat??

give it a chance, this approach seems to be working...

Help!!!! · 05-06-2017 12:11PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

We would "all die"...all of us? Dead? Get a grip.

I was being ironic

_Whimsical_ · 05-06-2017 12:12PM

Its on sky now that one of the terrorists in London had an Irish identity card on him on Saturday night and had lived in Dublin for a time.
Irish Gardai now helping Met with their inquiries.

Help!!!! · 05-06-2017 12:12PM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

give it a chance, this approach seems to be working...

So I've been told many many times:rolleyes:

Phoebas · 05-06-2017 12:12PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

Do nothing?? Walk around with candles?? More people killed?? Repeat??

If only there was some middle ground between martial law and doing nothing. :rolleyes:

05-06-2017 12:13PM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

give it a chance, this approach seems to be working...

Help!!!! · 05-06-2017 12:13PM

Phoebas wrote: »

If only there was some middle ground between martial law and doing nothing. :rolleyes:

So what do you suggest??

Really Interested · 05-06-2017 12:14PM

Phoebas wrote: »

I think it would be difficult to prevent British immigration to Ireland, what with the CTA and all that.
Should closing that off be a stance we take in the Brexit negotiations?

The CTA does not allow a non Irish or U.K. Citizen entry.

Captain Obvious · 05-06-2017 12:14PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It has a better chance of reducing the terror attacks than leaving the known activists on the streets.

No it doesn't. It has a better chance of creating more terrorists to replace the people interned.

Biggest lickspittle on boardz · 05-06-2017 12:15PM

A little refresher here for everyone regarding Clonskeagh Mosque and the Muslim Brotherhood. If you don't think radicalisation is taking place here, I don't know what to tell you:

Mountainsandh · 05-06-2017 12:15PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Fake or otherwise, the fact that there is such a tiny number should speak for itself!
If the muslin community was appalled by the attacks, there should be a representative number there, not a token number of "actors", there are probably at least 100,000 Muslims living within 2-3 mines of that spot.

I agree with you, many many more Muslims should really make their views known, and take a public stance against extremists of their own faith. Imo, this is of major importance to slow the rate of youngsters being sucked into radicalization, they should really see their Mums, sisters, fathers, uncles, and cousins rejecting extremists.

I wouldn't condemn this sample for showing up today though, fair play to them, and they more than likely represent a good few more who couldn't turn up for professional/personal reasons (and maybe some who did but were kept out of shot for visual reasons).

05-06-2017 12:16PM

Ah "Islamophobia". Always makes me think of this hilarious clip of the right-on Ben Affleck:

It's ironic really when you think about the films he's been in. He was happy to do Dogma, would he do a similar film about Islam. Or is he scared for some reason. Almost, phobic?

Phoebas · 05-06-2017 12:16PM

Really Interested wrote: »

The CTA does not allow a non Irish or U.K. Citizen entry.

True. But there is nothing to suggest that the suspect that lived here was non Irish or UK.

05-06-2017 12:17PM

Mountainsandh wrote: »

I agree with you, many many more Muslims should really make their views known, and take a public stance against extremists of their own faith. Imo, this is of major importance to slow the rate of youngsters being sucked into radicalization, they should really see their Mums, sisters, fathers, uncles, and cousins rejecting extremists.

I wouldn't condemn this sample for showing up today though, fair play to them, and they more than likely represent a good few more who couldn't turn up for professional/personal reasons (and maybe some who did but were kept out of shot for visual reasons).

They're afraid to. They're a majority but the consequences are massive.

05-06-2017 12:17PM

Really Interested wrote: »

The CTA does not allow a non Irish or U.K. Citizen entry.

The problem is that many (almost all) have either UK or Irish passports as 2nd generation immigrants appear to be more radical than those "just off the boat".

Many of the 1st generation migrants are grateful for the chance to start a new life and are leaving that shít behind.

Really Interested · 05-06-2017 12:17PM

Phoebas wrote: »

True. But there is nothing to suggest that the suspect that lived here was non Irish or UK.

He was Moroccan I believe married to a Scottish national, I assume exercising EU rights.

05-06-2017 12:19PM

Captain Obvious wrote: »

No it doesn't. It has a better chance of creating more terrorists to replace the people interned.

That may have been the case in NI where the republican population was nearly 40% of the total. With Muslims, the percentages are far smaller and easier to handle.

Really Interested · 05-06-2017 12:19PM

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/06/05/middleeast/saudi-bahrain-egypt-uae-qatar-terror/index.html

I wonder is the above is connected to London.

youtube! · 05-06-2017 12:20PM

Phoebas wrote: »

Internment again.
Do people think that would be successful?

And temporary martial law? Really?

Jesus ****ing Christ it's a damn sight better than ****ing hashtags and hugs!

We have to do something and this is by far the best solution I have heard, you are more afraid of their "human rights" being violated than innocent people being slaughtered! YOU are what's wrong with this situation.

Phoebas · 05-06-2017 12:20PM

Really Interested wrote: »

He was Moroccan I believe married to a Scottish national, I assume exercising EU rights.

Therein lies the difficulty.

Dyr · 05-06-2017 12:21PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The problem is that many (almost all) have either UK or Irish passports as 2nd generation immigrants appear to be more radical than those "just off the boat".

Many of the 1st generation migrants are grateful for the chance to start a new life and are leaving that sh?t behind.

We want to start a new life far from the **** hole we've come from

BTW we're still gonna propagate the belief system that made our country a **** hole, that ok?

nah mate, you want to live in medieval **** hole, than you're fine where you are

MPFGLB · 05-06-2017 12:22PM

Mountainsandh wrote: »

I agree with you, many many more Muslims should really make their views known, and take a public stance against extremists of their own faith. Imo, this is of major importance to slow the rate of youngsters being sucked into radicalization, they should really see their Mums, sisters, fathers, uncles, and cousins rejecting extremists.

I wouldn't condemn this sample for showing up today though, fair play to them, and they more than likely represent a good few more who couldn't turn up for professional/personal reasons (and maybe some who did but were kept out of shot for visual reasons).

hey they do make their view known ....many Imans up and down Britain have condemned the attacks

But I don't remember Irish people 'turning up' on mass at Canary Wharf or Manchester shopping centre when the Irish paramilitaries bombed them....because I guess we didn't think the IRA spoke for the Irish and why should the Irish we feel responsible for a few terrorist who were bombing in our name

Nearly all Muslims in Britain are not responsible for these few extremists

Ridiculous anti Muslim rhetoric is part of the problem and is born out of ignorance

bnt · 05-06-2017 12:23PM

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

Its on sky now that one of the terrorists in London had an Irish identity card on him on Saturday night and had lived in Dublin for a time.
Irish Gardai now helping Met with their inquiries.

According to the Daily Mail he lived in Rathmines. Another of them had appeared in a Channel 4 documentary about jihadis last year.

05-06-2017 12:23PM

Really Interested wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/06/05/middleeast/saudi-bahrain-egypt-uae-qatar-terror/index.html

I wonder is the above is connected to London.

Quite possible as many Middle Eastern states provide financial support to the Muslim communities in the west to help them build Mosques and to educate the expatriate Muslims to maintain their faith..
It's only a very small step to extend that support to radical Islamists.

homerjay2005 · 05-06-2017 12:24PM

Persephone kindness wrote: »

There is a lot of racism and Islamophobia in this thread.

care to give some examples please?

Phoebas · 05-06-2017 12:24PM

youtube! wrote: »

Jesus ****ing Christ it's a damn sight better than ****ing hashtags and hugs!

We have to do something and this is by far the best solution I have heard, you are more afraid of their "human rights" being violated than innocent people being slaughtered! YOU are what's wrong with this situation.

Look. We're not going to be introducing martial law, so people suggesting it just need to calm down and let a little bit of the air out of their heads.

They already have laws in the UK against actively supporting ISIS. If they enforced that more strictly, at least one of these people might have been dealt with earlier.
We need practical solutions, not hand waving.

Really Interested · 05-06-2017 12:25PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Quite possible as many Middle Eastern states provide financial support to the Muslim communities in the west to help them build Mosques and to educate the expatriate Muslims to maintain their faith..
It's only a very small step to extend that support to radical Islamists.

My guess is it will be announced that Qatar is the paymaster for the London attack.

London terror attack confirmed by Met Police

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