Dairy chit chat II

visatorro · 24-05-2017 08:29PM

boggerman1 wrote: »

We are all told to budget for this and that onthe comic and by teagasc.well for me thats gone out the window for me today.the bulk tank could be i trouble losing gas.all the outer pipes are fine but the guy i have who services it reckons there must be a leaking coil in the body of it.i had thought the tank was under a bit of pressure but when i read the esb meter i got some land.usually the meter would use 4800 approx per billing cycle but this time it was double.the compressor was eating up power to compensate for the gas leaking and not cutting out when it should.so much for budgeting anyhow.off to look out for a 5000 ish tank.ice hank i have.stick with ice or go direct expansion?

I think all the newer tanks are direct expansion. Ment to be more efficient.

whelan2 · 26-05-2017 11:32AM

Had a cow with tetany this morning. I thought they only got ut in cold weather. Vet said burst of growth causing it. Has seen a good few cases in the last week

freedominacup · 26-05-2017 12:03PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Had a cow with tetany this morning. I thought they only got ut in cold weather. Vet said burst of growth causing it. Has seen a good few cases in the last week

I lost one during the last dry spell as well. We thought we had her saved but the night was very cold and she was dead the following morning. Of course she was doing 45l at recording the previous week.

pedigree 6 · 26-05-2017 12:07PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Had a cow with tetany this morning. I thought they only got ut in cold weather. Vet said burst of growth causing it. Has seen a good few cases in the last week

High intakes of potassium (Potash) by grass can lead to blocking of calcium and magnesium from getting into the grass and thus the cow itself and bring on tetany (staggers).

Were yous going mad spreading slurry or potash on this grazing ground a few weeks ago?

whelan2 · 26-05-2017 12:12PM

pedigree 6 wrote: »

High intakes of potassium (Potash) by grass can lead to blocking of calcium and magnesium from getting into the grass and thus the cow itself and bring on tetany (staggers).

Were yous going mad spreading slurry or potash on this grazing ground a few weeks ago?

No. It got no slurry and only a bag of 24-2.5-10. I thought she had collic tbh.

pedigree 6 · 26-05-2017 12:39PM

whelan2 wrote: »

No. It got no slurry and only a bag of 24-2.5-10. I thought she had collic tbh.

I went out one morning about a month and a half ago and had 3 cows with tetany and another 1 with bloat and tetany.
The cow with bloat was down and 2 others were down as well and the fourth was staggery.
We vaccinated the cows the day before and that night was very cold too coupled with that real high oil rich shiny grass. It all was too much I felt.
Treated the down cows and the vet put a trochera in the bloat cow and they were fine.
Staggery cow my father walked her in and as soon as she hit concrete section of roadway fell and broke a timber stake and stuck on the electric fence. Que rushing to turn off the fence and then after treating her. She was fine after and was up in a few hours.

Dairy farming is great craic!:rolleyes:

Anyway your own cows Whelan.
Just wondering then was she short of grass, water and/or perhaps bulling.
You don't have to answer but there's always a reason for these things.
But she's being treated and that's the important thing.

GrasstoMilk · 26-05-2017 01:26PM

pedigree 6 wrote: »

I went out one morning about a month and a half ago and had 3 cows with tetany and another 1 with bloat and tetany.
The cow with bloat was down and 2 others were down as well and the fourth was staggery.
We vaccinated the cows the day before and that night was very cold too coupled with that real high oil rich shiny grass. It all was too much I felt.
Treated the down cows and the vet put a trochera in the bloat cow and they were fine.
Staggery cow my father walked her in and as soon as she hit concrete section of roadway fell and broke a timber stake and stuck on the electric fence. Que rushing to turn off the fence and then after treating her. She was fine after and was up in a few hours.

Dairy farming is great craic!:rolleyes:

Anyway your own cows Whelan.
Just wondering then was she short of grass, water and/or perhaps bulling.
You don't have to answer but there's always a reason for these things.
But she's being treated and that's the important thing.

Jesus, surprised your getting tetany in our area. This area is sky high in mag unlike the rest of the country.
I could safely say we haven't had a case of tetany here in an awful long time

Timmaay · 26-05-2017 01:43PM

Free/whelan pedigree are all these problem cows doing 35l+? The ideal cow for me tops out around 32l, they tend to be the ones who give less problems but still very profitable. I've about 15 older HOs on their last lap this year (some of whom defo should of gone last year). I'll be down to a handful of pure Hos then, I certainly don't miss the workload when there was a full herd of them here.

Mooooo · 26-05-2017 01:51PM

Can't remember having tetany here, but wouldn't drop ration a whole pile either unless the end of summer with plenty grass and prob still get a kg or two

whelan2 · 26-05-2017 01:58PM

I'd say she was in heat last night, she's a second calver, very slow milker, 3 spinner. Was bulling a few weeks ago and I skipped her. I never wrote her heat on the calender but it kind of ties in. When I got her out of the parlour this morning, she just lay down straight away. No kicking at all, none of the real jumpyness you'd expect from a tetany cow. Vet gave her 2 boluses and a bottle og mag to cover her. We will see how she is later on, it was if she was totally zoned out

pedigree 6 · 26-05-2017 02:03PM

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Jesus, surprised your getting tetany in our area. This area is sky high in mag unlike the rest of the country.
I could safely say we haven't had a case of tetany here in an awful long time

I have my doubts about this being that high in mag here.
Going to soil test in the autumn.
The cows here have been afflicted here at times as well the neighbours and all along to ballywilliam.
So I think you can't really say the whole clonroche series of soils is fine.
I have a neighbour who's about a mile southeast of me who also reckons all the area is fine. I think he's in your dis group. (D.D) But you plough his land and there wouldn't be a stone coming up. It's a bit different here with all sorts of stones from quartz and sandstone to granite lumps.

You'd have to make sure the cows have their cal mag anyway or else you'd be in trouble.

To timmaay. All the cows would be mostly the same high yielders and if they don't eat their meal for some reason or bulling, stress, etc,etc you could be in trouble.
Easy enough usually to manage though.

Timmaay · 26-05-2017 02:06PM

Thinking of going back to supplying minerals/calmag through the water here (and dropping the nuts fully), only problem is there is too much grit etc in the water, the dosatron pumps we use to use would never last more than a few months. Anyone use a filter before the dosatron, and where would I get one, what make etc?

Water John · 26-05-2017 04:16PM

Your talking of filtering the water, Timmay?
There are 5 micron filters, that can be put on the line. A drop down bowl, with the filter inside, similar to you tractor oil. The filters can be rinsed out.

visatorro · 27-05-2017 01:54PM

Happier with the autumn calvers this year. Last year they fell off a cliff. Must holding around 17 litres which I'm happy with compared to a good few of them nearly drying themselves off this time last year. Flat rate 3kg to everyone. Moved from Sept to October calving.

whelan2 · 27-05-2017 07:11PM

visatorro wrote: »

Happier with the autumn calvers this year. Last year they fell off a cliff. Must holding around 17 litres which I'm happy with compared to a good few of them nearly drying themselves off this time last year. Flat rate 3kg to everyone. Moved from Sept to October calving.

We were the same here last year. May was a terrible month very cold afair. Going well this year. Touch wood.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 27-05-2017 08:23PM

Did milk recording here this evening, DIY, and it's an absolute pleasure when every meter isn't giving 'clear air hole' warnings with every cow.

Their timing is perfect too as the SCC had crept up to 142 on the last creamery results from 95-105 with the last few weeks.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 28-05-2017 12:00PM

I'll just leave this here....

https://www.facebook.com/agrivideoss/videos/1759341744322673/

I can't help but think of my bank managers doing just that:pac:

Dwag · 29-05-2017 01:16PM

Got an order for hay for export late last week, so looked at forecast and proceeded to knock a few acres of ryegrass. No problem...only I forgot that last Thursday was a bank holiday and therefore the frogs were also entitled to Friday and the weekend off..lovely. Short staffed, hay knocked and trying to finish off warm weather crop planting at the same time. Ended up pulling an all-nighter last night because thunderstorms forecasted for this morning (which duly came with 12mm), trying to bring in the big squares.
Ended up falling on my arse off a trailer, and now I'm crippled....
I was reading another thread about farm succession...there is no way whatsoever a child of mine will be allowed farm. There's much easier ways of making a living.

Rant over.

Mooooo · 29-05-2017 02:27PM

Dwag wrote: »

Got an order for hay for export late last week, so looked at forecast and proceeded to knock a few acres of ryegrass. No problem...only I forgot that last Thursday was a bank holiday and therefore the frogs were also entitled to Friday and the weekend off..lovely. Short staffed, hay knocked and trying to finish off warm weather crop planting at the same time. Ended up pulling an all-nighter last night because thunderstorms forecasted for this morning (which duly came with 12mm), trying to bring in the big squares.
Ended up falling on my arse off a trailer, and now I'm crippled....
I was reading another thread about farm succession...there is no way whatsoever a child of mine will be allowed farm. There's much easier ways of making a living.

Rant over.

Would autonomous drive tractors have any application with you dawg? I guess cost and I assume you'd stilll have to have a man on it make it a number of years away

kowtow · 29-05-2017 02:39PM

Dwag wrote: »

No problem...only I forgot that last Thursday was a bank holiday and therefore the frogs were also entitled to Friday and the weekend off..lovely.

Rant over.

"Le Pont"

hahah.. had forgotten that. Used to drive me insane

The part time boy · 29-05-2017 02:50PM

Dwag wrote: »

I was reading another thread about farm succession...there is no way whatsoever a child of mine will be allowed farm. There's much easier ways of making a living.

Rant over.

No offence with this but it that your taugh why are you still at it ?

whelan2 · 29-05-2017 03:23PM

The part time boy wrote: »

No offence with this but it that your taugh why are you still at it ?

Sure he'd have nothing to give out about then

Dwag · 29-05-2017 05:21PM

kowtow wrote: »

"Le Pont"

hahah.. had forgotten that. Used to drive me insane

Le Pont de l'ascension...major pita, literally!
Four days off in a row for the natives, how bad.

Dwag · 29-05-2017 05:24PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Sure he'd have nothing to give out about then

+1.
That, and I've a penchant for self harm and a good dollop of hardship...

Dwag · 29-05-2017 05:28PM

Lost 3 cows to lightening an hour ago.
All three were next to the wire. Reckon it must have hit the wire and travelled along it because the cows were about 50m apart.

No ranting...

visatorro · 29-05-2017 06:04PM

Dwag wrote: »

Lost 3 cows to lightening an hour ago.
All three were next to the wire. Reckon it must have hit the wire and travelled along it because the cows were about 50m apart.

No ranting...

Not being smart but do you mind listing benefits of farming in France as opposed to here ? From your posts you have lost a lot of cows through disease and other acts of God. Have trouble with drought and labour. Your obviously successful but is that more down to you or the conditions you farm in?

kevthegaff · 29-05-2017 07:04PM

Back from Poland, last time 3 yrs ago. Country reminds me of ireland at start of boom, lot of german/ polish factories, new builds, new shopping centres. Land is exceptional

Dwag · 29-05-2017 07:12PM

visatorro wrote: »

Not being smart but do you mind listing benefits of farming in France as opposed to here ? From your posts you have lost a lot of cows through disease and other acts of God. Have trouble with drought and labour. Your obviously successful but is that more down to you or the conditions you farm in?

I'd be going over old ground...

Price of land is €1k an acre...
I prefer working in t-shirt and shorts to oilskins and wellingtons...
I find it a lot easier to add water to land than to subtract...

I did lose four cows to tetany recently. My fault.

Dwag · 29-05-2017 07:16PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

Back from Poland, last time 3 yrs ago. Country reminds me of ireland at start of boom, lot of german/ polish factories, new builds, new shopping centres. Land is exceptional

Pl, Cz, Sk etc are now almost part of the greater Germany.

What part? I found quite a bit of the land to be weak sandy stuff?

whelan2 · 29-05-2017 07:19PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

Back from Poland, last time 3 yrs ago. Country reminds me of ireland at start of boom, lot of german/ polish factories, new builds, new shopping centres. Land is exceptional

Would you be tempted to ever move there?

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