Opposite sex using opposite bathrooms in Ireland..

There's a unisex toilets in the Lighthouse Cinema in Smithfield.

Tbh I found using it it a little uncomfortable, knowing that women might be using the stalls next to me. So much so that I almost didn't cum.

It really annoys me when you're in the gents in a bar and women barge in and say queue too long and head straight for the stalls.
It's a really uncomfortable experience and you do see guys looking somewhat displeased.
I'd be very curious to know how women would react if it were the other way around?

Pinch Flat wrote: »

You sure it was a woman?

Deffo, just an old cleaning woman. It's normal over there.

_Brian wrote: »

Jesus folks Irish people really do have a hang up on toilets and toilet habits.

Long as there's a door to close I really don't care who's in the stall beside me and what sign is on the door. If I'm at a urinal and there's ladies about I don't really mind.

In comparison in France it's anything goes, urinals on outside of the toilet buildings in the open, women and men mixed cubicles, it's just a non issue.

My only gripe is the state of toilets, people must have no control over their bodily functions at all.

But it's not just Irish folks though, is it? Gender segregated facilities are common in more countries than they aren't, and cherry picking examples from other countries doesn't invalidate the cultural norms of those countries where gender segregated facilities are the norm.

I can understand why people use their own perspective as the basis of their arguments to suggest that what they're comfortable with, other people should be comfortable with too. But that's spectacularly missing the point which is that other people, who aren't them, aren't comfortable with the idea of shared facilities.

The core issue here is really that people on either side of the argument feel that no consideration is being given to their rights to privacy, comfort and personal safety.

I get that it's important for people who are transgender to feel acceptance, that they pass as the gender they align themselves with, but they should also be considerate of the fact that they have no right to force people to accept them. That will only lead to further rejection and isolation for exactly the same behaviour as they feel is being forced upon them.

The argument is often used by people who are transgender that they don't feel safe, that their rights to privacy and comfort are being violated by having to use facilities which they are not comfortable with, but the solution to that issue, is not IMO, to try and force other people into the same position as them.

Allinall wrote:

If you stand up for a piss- Gentlemen

Allinall wrote:

Sit down- Ladies.

If there's a free urinal stand and piss like a gentleman.

If there ain't one or your shy sit in the cubicle on the seat as its intended/made for.

The height that urinals are mounted on walls and the proximity in which we stand to them seems to suit most of the male folks

Too often when you need a **** you find that someone who can't piss straight because they've been up all night riding or they've just got a sprinkler for a penis has pissed all over the seat and or floor & cistern.

ceadaoin. wrote: »

It's being framed as a "bathroom" issue because most people don't care too much about that. but it's not just bathrooms. It's hospitals, women's shelters, nursing homes, locker rooms, psychiatric wards, prisons - anywhere that there are currently sex segregated facilities. It's understandable that some people might have issues sharing those spaces with people of the opposite sex

Burial. wrote: »

As Helen Lovejoy would say "won't somebody think of the children". All well and good for adults who have no fuss about if the opposite sex sees some privates but with the kiddies it's best off they're kept separate imo.

Those are fair points. More to it than meets the eye, maybe.

Widdershins wrote:

Good, but you all know each other there. It could be different for complete strangers, when the transgender person hasn't begun the physical transition yet and there's no outward indication that they're transgender. If women are uncomfortable with what looks like a man entering the bathroom or wherever (a few examples in the post I just quoted) what then?

It's just so done going for a widdle. Unisex toilets take the fear out if it. If those women have that much fear about other people in the toilet then it's probably a broader anxiety. People interact with people of all genres during the day, so there's no great need to pander to every little anxiety in the toilet. I don't know the people next to me in a public toilet. They could be anyone.

A lot of men piss in a cubicle. Shyness or awkwardness.

I don't see the issue with seperate toilets.
Also don't mind unisex.

Too much to worry about. Where I take a sh1t is not high on the list.

Lucy8080 wrote: »

Does anyone remember when the toilets were all fields?

Are you from Leitrim?

I was in Sweden a while back and a lot of the bathrooms were unisex. The counter for the sinks and mirrors are all the same but the cubicles are unmarked and the bathroom is just the bathroom, no symbols.

Was a bit odd at first, I'll admit. I was certain I'd walked into the women's toilet by accident but after the first few times, I didn't give it any more thought. As it was in cubicles with high walls, it was fine. Some places had bathrooms and a separate cove (behind a door) for a pissing wall.

ceadaoin. wrote: »

It's being framed as a "bathroom" issue because most people don't care too much about that. but it's not just bathrooms. It's hospitals, women's shelters, nursing homes, locker rooms, psychiatric wards, prisons - anywhere that there are currently sex segregated facilities. It's understandable that some people might have issues sharing those spaces with people of the opposite sex

Neither hospitals nor nursing homes are gender segregated.

annascott wrote: »

The transsexual thing does not bother me at all. If he is dressed as and looks like a woman, come in) however a lot of men are more likely to do more than pass water in a toilet (and leave a mess)whereas women will wait until they get home. For this reason I do not like the idea of unisex toilets for all.

Women don't **** in public toilets? And what's the extra mess - it all flushes away?

What really makes me laugh is when a restaurant only has two cubicles for restroom facilities and they still put a sign for mens and women's outside like does it really make a difference in this situation?

If the 'gents' is locked in this situation I'll use the 'ladies' and I've often been waiting while both are locked to see a woman come out of the 'gents'. Common sense has to prevail somewhere.