Terrorist Attack in Manchester (Read MOD WARNING in OP Updated 24/05/2017))

sjb25 · 24-05-2017 07:03PM

kopite386 wrote: »

The father has apparently been arrested aswell in Libya

Yeah he's another nice guy by the sounds of things actually the hole family sound like the kind who need to (be put up against a wall) given a fair trial sorry

kopite386 · 24-05-2017 07:03PM

The younger brother supposedly knew about his brother's plan and was planning another attack

24-05-2017 07:03PM

twinytwo wrote: »

Oh this is very easy to stop but all the do gooders get up on their high horses and scream about rights etc etc

What would you suggest?

Help!!!! · 24-05-2017 07:04PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

2 of the top 4 worst terrorist attacks in this decade in Europe have been committed by white men. That's just a fact.

Anders Breivik meticulously planned and massacred 77 people, targeting children at a youth camp and gave Neo-Nazi salutes at his trial. Andreas Lubitz meticulously planned and killed 149 people by flying the plane into a mountain. Reasons apparently unknown.

Lubitz act of terrorism was the single worst in Europe in the decade.

The excuses made for these 2 men reflect the fact that people only see "terrorism" when it's done by brown people who speak another language or follow another culture.

If it's just a regular old European white person, then they were "troubled", "disaffected", "sick".

In the aftermath of the Germanwings crash, almost all media attention was focused on Lubitz state of mind. Not one publication is pondering whether Salman Abedi suffering from depression or mental illness. Why? Why should it matter what Lubitz state of mind was and not what Abedi's was?

If the roles were reversed we'd be seeing Abedi immediately declared a terrorist and not one iota of thought given to whether he suffered from a mental illness or not before crashing the plane. We'd be seeing the same focus on Lubitz state of mind when seeking to explain why he killed kids at a concert.

People want to bash Islam because it's a soft target. It's much more difficult to address why white people shoot up schools, crash planes, plant bombs and massacre people. We don't have a neat and tidy thing to blame.

The bottom line is whether someone uses a religious excuse or no excuse at all, there will always and HAS ALWAYS been lunatics willing to die and massacre other humans in the process.

Deporting Muslims, locking them up, persecuting them, internment ....none of that will prevent future terrorist mass-murder by people whether they are white or brown.

But the most consistent terrorist attacks have been caused by Muslims. Did you know over 12 attacks were foiled last year in the UK?
Over 20 attacks foiled in France. Yes white people have done bad things but we will see a hell of a lot more done by Muslims

wonderfullife · 24-05-2017 07:07PM

twinytwo wrote: »

Oh this is very easy to stop but all the do gooders get up on their high horses and scream about rights etc etc

Those are the rights that are supposed to separate "us" from "them".

If we abandon those rights and start locking innocent people up without trial then they've succeeded in their aim of changing our culture.

Anyway, humour us with your ever-so-simple solution to stopping terrorism of all kinds?

Exeggcute · 24-05-2017 07:08PM

Fair play Morrissey

wonderfullife · 24-05-2017 07:10PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

But the most consistent terrorist attacks have been caused by Muslims. Did you know over 12 attacks were foiled last year in the UK?
Over 20 attacks foiled in France. Yes white people have done bad things but we will see a hell of a lot more done by Muslims

Nope.

Check out the Europol stats.

The majority of terrorist related incidents in Europe over the past 15 years has been non-Islamic.

That's great that they foiled 12 attacks. I'm sure they foil plenty of right-wing extremist plots too, just like in Germany a few weeks ago when they arrested that lunatic planning mass murder.

Radical Islamic attacks just get more press coverage. Anders Breivik was a white neo-nazi who massacred children. Wrong skin colour and wrong religion to be labeled a terrorist and no easy target for the media to go after. He was simply labeled "disturbed" and "sick".

Hillary For President · 24-05-2017 07:12PM

I'm at the stage now where I believe the people who carry out these attacks are doing the bidding of Satan. Pure evil.

gitzy16v · 24-05-2017 07:13PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

Nope.

Check out the Europol stats.

The majority of terrorist related incidents in Europe over the past 15 years has been non-Islamic.

That's great that they foiled 12 attacks. I'm sure they foil plenty of right-wing extremist plots too, just like in Germany a few weeks ago when they arrested that lunatic planning mass murder.

Radical Islamic attacks just get more press coverage. Anders Breivik was a white neo-nazi who massacred children. Wrong skin colour and wrong religion to be labeled a terrorist and no easy target for the media to go after. He was simply labeled "disturbed" and "sick".

Which one was that.
I can only remember the one going to assassinate a politician.

Help!!!! · 24-05-2017 07:13PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

Nope.

Check out the Europol stats.

The majority of terrorist related incidents in Europe over the past 15 years has been non-Islamic.

That's great that they foiled 12 attacks. I'm sure they foil plenty of right-wing extremist plots too, just like in Germany a few weeks ago when they arrested that lunatic planning mass murder.

Radical Islamic attacks just get more press coverage. Anders Breivik was a white neo-nazi who massacred children. Wrong skin colour and wrong religion to be labeled a terrorist and no easy target for the media to go after. He was simply labeled "disturbed" and "sick".

Well it makes up for all the child grooming gangs/rapes/assaults etc that the media wont report on because of the skin colour

jobbridge4life · 24-05-2017 07:15PM

Exeggcute wrote: »

Fair play Morrissey

Morrissey, unfortunately, is in that sad category of 'if only they'd died sooner'.

His rambling nonsense post is both completely un-self-aware and painfully simplistic.

Give it a rest Morrissey, stick to playing the thirty minute chicken slaughtering videos at your concerts.

24-05-2017 07:16PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

Well it makes up for all the child grooming gangs/rapes/assaults etc that the media wont report on because of the skin colour

How do you know all about these things if the media won't report them?

DrumSteve · 24-05-2017 07:16PM

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Morrissey, unfortunately, is in that sad category of 'if only they'd died sooner'.

His rambling nonsense post is both completely un-self-aware and painfully simplistic.

Give it a rest Morrissey, stick to playing the thirty minute chicken slaughtering videos at your concerts.

If only he died sooner?

****in hell.

Hillary For President · 24-05-2017 07:17PM

Morrissey was bang on with that post. Then again he's always been too smart to play the pc game.

end of the road · 24-05-2017 07:19PM

twinytwo wrote: »

Oh this is very easy to stop but all the do gooders get up on their high horses and scream about rights etc etc

if it was easy to stop then it would be. nothing to do with "do gooders rabel rabel"

jobbridge4life · 24-05-2017 07:20PM

Hillary For President wrote: »

Morrissey was bang on with that post. Then again he's always been too smart to play the pc game.

LoL

I guess you'll be saying that the next time he uses his concerts to 'virtue signal' about vegetarianism...

Hilarious.

Look Morrissey has always been an attention seeking contrarian. That he has devolved now to righty-whinging should be no surprise to anyone.

It is sad in my view that he has continued on and is making a fool of himself.

wonderfullife · 24-05-2017 07:20PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

Well it makes up for all the child grooming gangs/rapes/assaults etc that the media wont report on because of the skin colour

I get it. You don't like Islam and brown people. Boo-hoo. Newsflash white people do all of the above too.

The amount of Eastern European white gangs involved in human trafficking, child grooming, assaults is off the charts too.

This constant search to demonize a religion and ignore "your own" doing the same thing is ridiculous.

Personally I think Islam is a load of nonsense, just like all the other major religions. I don't think Jesus had superpowers or whatever the hell we're taught to believe in church growing up either.

Snake Plisken · 24-05-2017 07:21PM

What a load of horsecrap! Typical of the left oh but white Europeans males are a lot worse then what the radical Muslims have done! I really count care less about hurting Muslims feelings a lot of Muslims know what these guys are planning or have suspicions but do nothing about it! Btw the mental illness lone wolf line is thrown around a lot by the left when it comes to these Islamic scumbags! As i said last night and many more agree time to start internment of everyone on European watch lists. How many more times are we going to have these carried out by Muslims who were known to Police!

wonderfullife wrote: »

2 of the top 4 worst terrorist attacks in this decade in Europe have been committed by white men. That's just a fact.

Anders Breivik meticulously planned and massacred 77 people, targeting children at a youth camp and gave Neo-Nazi salutes at his trial. Andreas Lubitz meticulously planned and killed 149 people by flying the plane into a mountain. Reasons apparently unknown.

Lubitz act of terrorism was the single worst in Europe in the decade.

The excuses made for these 2 men reflect the fact that people only see "terrorism" when it's done by brown people who speak another language or follow another culture.

If it's just a regular old European white person, then they were "troubled", "disaffected", "sick".

In the aftermath of the Germanwings crash, almost all media attention was focused on Lubitz state of mind. Not one publication is pondering whether Salman Abedi was suffering from depression or mental illness. Why? Why should it matter what Lubitz state of mind was and not what Abedi's was?

If the roles were reversed we'd be seeing Abedi immediately declared a terrorist and not one iota of thought given to whether he suffered from a mental illness or not before crashing the plane. We'd be seeing the same focus on Lubitz state of mind when seeking to explain why he killed kids at a concert.

People want to bash Islam because it's a soft target. It's much more difficult to address why white people shoot up schools, crash planes, plant bombs and massacre people. We don't have a neat and tidy thing to blame.

The bottom line is whether someone uses a religious excuse or no excuse at all, there will always and HAS ALWAYS been lunatics willing to die and massacre other humans in the process.

Deporting Muslims, locking them up, persecuting them, internment ....none of that will prevent future terrorist mass-murder by people whether they are white or brown.

Help!!!! · 24-05-2017 07:23PM

bubblypop wrote: »

How do you know all about these things if the media won't report them?

Because I have an open mind & dont just watch RTE/BBC....go on youtube plenty of people reporting about it
Have you heard about Chelsy Manning? Raped by a group of Syrian refugees, the police let them off even though there was a witness that saw her being dragged into the house & there was 2 traces of sperm on her

Watch from 2:20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFjEUNOnjxQ&t=11s

gitzy16v · 24-05-2017 07:23PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

I get it. You don't like Islam and brown people. Boo-hoo. Newsflash white people do all of the above too.

The amount of Eastern European white gangs involved in human trafficking, child grooming, assaults is off the charts too.

This constant search to demonize a religion and ignore "your own" doing the same thing is ridiculous.

Personally I think Islam is a load of nonsense, just like all the other major religions. I don't think Jesus had superpowers or whatever the hell we're taught to believe in church growing up either.

Is it?
On the same scale as in the UK?
I doubt it.
Did you find out who the white German was who was foiled in a mass murder attempt?

mikeybrennan · 24-05-2017 07:23PM

Hillary For President wrote: »

Morrissey was bang on with that post. Then again he's always been too smart to play the pc game.

Bang on my eye

An MP was murdered recently and parliament has been attacked by the IRA and IS

Snake Plisken · 24-05-2017 07:24PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

I get it. You don't like Islam and brown people. Boo-hoo. Newsflash white people do all of the above too.

The amount of Eastern European white gangs involved in human trafficking, child grooming, assaults is off the charts too.

This constant search to demonize a religion and ignore "your own" doing the same thing is ridiculous.

Personally I think Islam is a load of nonsense, just like all the other major religions. I don't think Jesus had superpowers or whatever the hell we're taught to believe in church growing up either.

Plenty of posts on boards demonizing the Catholic Church so where do you get off calling people racist?
Maybe if it was your child you might have a different opinion! Cop yourself on!

Hillary For President · 24-05-2017 07:26PM

"LoL

I guess you'll be saying that the next time he uses his concerts to 'virtue signal' about vegetarianism...

Hilarious.

Look Morrissey has always been an attention seeking contrarian. That he has devolved now to righty-whinging should be no surprise to anyone.

It is sad in my view that he has continued on and is making a fool of himself."

But if he came out with the 'correct' response of 'they will not divide us, not all Muslims, no walls, no borders' you wouldn't be wishing he died, correct?

end of the road · 24-05-2017 07:26PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

Yep that would be a start, another would be deportations for all family members of a terrorist, if they are British the they all do jail time. Might seem harsh but would give these terrorists something to think about

no it wouldn't. it would fail like every other single nonsense proposal that operates on discriminatory grounds.
it would also be a breach of plenty of laws and quite frankly, those of us who believe in democracy and the rule of law wouldn't tolerate it either. discrimination never works.

wonderfullife · 24-05-2017 07:26PM

Snake Plisken wrote: »

What a load of horsecrap! Typical of the left oh but white Europeans males are a lot worse then what the radical Muslims have done! I really count care less about hurting Muslims feelings a lot of Muslims know what these guys are planning or have suspicions but do nothing about it! Btw the mental illness lone wolf line is thrown around a lot by the left when it comes to these Islamic scumbags! As i said last night and many more agree time to start internment of everyone on European watch lists. How many more times are we going to have these carried out by Muslims who were known to Police!

Internment of innocent people.

Gotcha.

Good plan. It'll end well. Has always ended well.

Idiocy.

Spanish Eyes · 24-05-2017 07:27PM

Awful as were the murders committed by Brevik and Lubitz, to me they were the epitome of "Lone Wolves".

Islamic terrorism on the other hand is most certainly not comprised of Lone Wolves, much as the media want it to be that way.

That is not taking away from the horror of the murders committed by the two mad mentioned above.

Snake Plisken · 24-05-2017 07:28PM

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Morrissey, unfortunately, is in that sad category of 'if only they'd died sooner'.

His rambling nonsense post is both completely un-self-aware and painfully simplistic.

Give it a rest Morrissey, stick to playing the thirty minute chicken slaughtering videos at your concerts.

Why because he isn't afraid to speak his mind?

gitzy16v · 24-05-2017 07:29PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

Internment of innocent people.

Gotcha.

Good plan. It'll end well. Has always ended well.

Idiocy.

More waffle

Atoms for Peace · 24-05-2017 07:29PM

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Morrissey, unfortunately, is in that sad category of 'if only they'd died sooner'.

His rambling nonsense post is both completely un-self-aware and painfully simplistic.

Give it a rest Morrissey, stick to playing the thirty minute chicken slaughtering videos at your concerts.

Which part was nonsense exactly? To me it seems an accurate and to the point statement, barbarism does begin at home it seems.

24-05-2017 07:30PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

Because I have an open mind & dont just watch RTE/BBC....go on youtube plenty of people reporting about it
Have you heard about Chelsy Manning? Raped by a group of Syrian refugees, the police let them off even though there was a witness that saw her being dragged into the house & there was 2 traces of sperm on her

Watch from 2:20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFjEUNOnjxQ&t=11s

Well I like to rely on actual evidence, from any source.
Not just some site where anyone can say anything they like

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