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Terrorist Attack in Manchester (Read MOD WARNING in OP Updated 24/05/2017))

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  • Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Last night's horrific attack was not just an attack on innocent kids, it was an attack on women and an inclusive, free society. The attacker knew the majority of Ariana Grande fans would have been young girls and he couldn't have picked an easier target. But this is in keeping with the warped Whabbist ideology that fuels such sick hate. A warped ideology that had its birth pangs in and continues to be spread and funded by the disgusting and primitive House Of Saud in Saudi Arabia. A country that treats women like chattel and their rights are almost non-existent.

    Yet this is the same country where The United States Of America just signed a new ten year $350 billion dollar arms deal last weekend. A deal that maintains The House Of Sauds suppression regime in Saudi Arabia, a deal that further enables their continuing brutality in Yemen and their global exportation of terror. But that's O.K, because for successive American administrations, their corporate masters and money is and always will be their God. The American 'national interest' is more important than the rights of women, the kids in Yemen or the global victims of Saudis inspired Wahhabi terror. So the elephant in the room has to be ignored.

    Why? Because billion dollar deals and The Saudis trillion dollar investments in the American economy. Means the Americans will gladly turn a blind eye, as The Saudis continue to provide the ideological and financial support to Wahhabi terrorist scum. Incompetent and war mongering America foreign policy through the decades has also facilitated, enabled and fueled the growth of the psychopaths from Daesh and Al Qaeda. From the brutal and illegal war in Iraq to the destruction of Libya, helping to return it to the stone age.

    Which all begs the question, will America ever learn and stop the cycle? Or are the corporate profits just too good? Will they ever stop this hypocrisy and confront The disgusting House Of Saud and the continuing export of their warped, Wahhabi, terrorist ideology. Sadly, I suspect they won't. Since Saudi oil and their big investments in The West will continue to prevent such confrontation, because it would appear that money is and will continue to be God.

    So the media and the experts, will continue to waste their times analysing the symptoms of the disease, rather than focusing on the real cause of the disease and why it isn't being addressed. Meanwhile, more beautiful & innocent young kids who are just beginning their lives, will continue to die and be sacrificed on the altar of hypocrisy.

    My deepest sympathies to all who suffered during last night's horror and may those who died RIP.

    No. It was an attack on the city of Manchester. A vibrant thriving city that has been my home for three years. It was an attack that meant to divide us. That will not happen. If you had been in Albert Square this evening, you would know we are a city united. The scum who committed this attack will not win.

    I work with many muslims in the hospital. Last night, we were a team. Ethnicity, colour, religion did not matter. The only concern was our patients. We tried our best to save them and for those we could not save, we tried to keep their suffering as dignified as possible.

    I couldn't give a **** about the US arms deal with Saudi Arabia. All I cared about was the 22 dead and the 120 injured. I am sick and tired of these peoples death and injuries been used to further ones agenda.

    Always remember, never forget, forever Manchester!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    Danzy wrote: »
    The Islamic State respectfully disagrees with you, that is way down there list but for some reason, it may not apply to you, but those who give your reasoning are loath to listen to the Org. behind it given it conflicts with their own view.

    Is that what they mean about the racism of low expectations, if they were white would they be taken at their word?

    These groups don't just don't come from nowhere and start killing. There's a route cause. It's crazy to ignore this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    neverever1 wrote: »
    These groups don't just don't come from nowhere and start killing. There's a route cause. It's crazy to ignore this.

    One common theme among all these attacks...Islam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    On another note U2 are playing croke park on the 22nd of July, a lot of the other recent terror attacks have involved a date including the 22nd... Just food for thought.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    gitzy16v wrote: »
    One common theme among all these attacks...Islam.

    Links to the Middle East?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


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    Fully agree with this, ''we will not be broken'' bs spouted by people under armed protection.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 56 ✭✭muppetshow


    Gamebred wrote: »
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    Fully agree with this, ''we will not be broken'' bs spouted by people under armed protection.

    Absolutely right,and it seems Katie Hopkins have also but fury in the lefties today as well.The truth hurts.
    https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2017/05/katie-hopkins-manchester/
    Its more important to arrest people telling the truth,than actually do something about the real problem,radical muslims.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Beyondgone


    gitzy16v wrote: »
    One common theme among all these attacks...Islam.

    I'm uncomfortable with any ideology that encourages hatred. Hatred never, ever lead to good places. The desire to foist beliefs upon others has produced nothing but misery since time began. The desire to foist those beliefs through violence has always caused misery, suffering, chaos and eventually rejection. Life's hard enough without having a rigid dogmatic view of Evangelise or destroy. I'm more in favour of laisse-faire. Live and let live.

    Islam has no space, concept or favour for laisse faire - It's The Borg Religion and Religion is like drink. It's ok in moderation, but it seldom stops at moderation.

    I worry. Do I hate Islam? No, I fear Islam. I fear their dogmatic view that how I live is wrong and must change or be destroyed. If you do not fear that which wishes to forcibly change or destroy you, you lack the self-preservation gene. That worries me too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    neverever1 wrote: »
    Links to the Middle East?

    No...Islam.
    The lad who blew these kids to pieces was British,born to Libyan parents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    muppetshow wrote: »
    Absolutely right,and it seems Katie Hopkins have also but fury in the lefties today as well.The truth hurts.
    https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2017/05/katie-hopkins-manchester/
    Its more important to arrest people telling the truth,than actually do something about the real problem,radical muslims.

    What has "the lefties" got to do with it? Morrissey just criticized both left wing and right wing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    Oh dear, is multimillionaire 'man of the people' Morrissey on the gargle again? What a charming man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    muppetshow wrote: »
    Absolutely right,and it seems Katie Hopkins have also but fury in the lefties today as well.The truth hurts.
    https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2017/05/katie-hopkins-manchester/
    Its more important to arrest people telling the truth,than actually do something about the real problem,radical muslims.

    I wouldn't go around using an advocate of pedophilia to try and claim the moral high ground with, to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,149 ✭✭✭Mech1


    UK threat level now at CRITICAL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    Beyondgone wrote: »
    I'm uncomfortable with any ideology that encourages hatred. Hatred never, ever lead to good places. The desire to foist beliefs upon others has produced nothing but misery since time began. The desire to foist those beliefs through violence has always caused misery, suffering, chaos and eventually rejection. Life's hard enough without having a rigid dogmatic view of Evangelise or destroy. I'm more in favour of laisse-faire. Live and let live.

    Islam has no space, concept or favour for laisse faire - It's The Borg Religion and Religion is like drink. It's ok in moderation, but it seldom stops at moderation.

    I worry. Do I hate Islam? No, I fear Islam. I fear their dogmatic view that how I live is wrong and must change or be destroyed. If you do not fear that which wishes to forcibly change or destroy you, you lack the self-preservation gene. That worries me too.

    It's a shame the literal word of God can't be reformed like the bible was.
    Gonna be a long hard road.
    Some very tough decisions need to be made and I fear we don't have the leaders to make them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,680 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Loving the lets go back to 2013 to prove a point stuff.

    Well guess what, things have moved at 100miles an hour compared to then.

    But it the future implications that some people cant seem to digest.

    If my mother tongue is shaking the foundations of your state, it probably means you built your state on my land.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭kopite386


    Threat level in the UK raised to critical with Military being deployed on the streets according to Theresa May after earlier today she said it would remain Severe, so obviously intelligence has found new information ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    tomofson wrote: »
    What has "the lefties" got to do with it? Morrissey just criticized both left wing and right wing.

    The same thing it always has to do with for certain people.

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 56 ✭✭muppetshow


    Billy86 wrote: »
    I wouldn't go around using an advocate of pedophilia to try and claim the moral high ground with, to be honest.

    Are you talking about the prophet Muhammad?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    muppetshow wrote: »
    Are you talking about the prophet Muhammad?

    Nope, your ex Breitbart editor of choice. I don't follow Muhammad, but you appear to follow Milo, like I said no moral high ground there for you sorry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,025 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    With the treat level at critical it seems from listening to Teresa may, that if any gob****e who isn't an actual terrorist could get shot if the armed forces think he's a treat ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    Mech1 wrote: »
    UK threat level now at CRITICAL

    They put it up to critical after the event, sad irony.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 864 ✭✭✭neverever1


    gitzy16v wrote: »
    No...Islam.
    The lad who blew these kids to pieces was British,born to Libyan parents.

    Libya has had it as bad as many Middle Eastern countries. I don't know what anyone gains from denying that 'the wests' bombing campaign in these countries has at least some impact on the current mindset of these people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    With the treat level at critical it seems from listening to Teresa may, that if any gob****e who isn't an actual terrorist could get shot if the armed forces think he's a treat ?

    No time to be acting the gob****e then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,299 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    could it be possible a bunch of terrorists may dress up as soldiers/police officers etc and pull an attack ??? like in the movie London has fallen

    heading too London for a gig next month so i should see a few armed cops/soliders around the area


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    The Terror Threat as been raised to critical. First time since 2007. Must be a new threat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 869 ✭✭✭mikeybrennan


    Mech1 wrote: »
    UK threat level now at CRITICAL

    Wasn't the US (government)shown to be manipulating the threat levels at one time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭tomofson


    neverever1 wrote: »
    Libya has had it as bad as many Middle Eastern countries. I don't know what anyone gains from denying that 'the wests' bombing campaign in these countries has at least some impact on the current mindset of these people.

    Nobody has denied that, but there is other issues too you dont have to just keep pushing that one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭kopite386


    tomofson wrote: »
    They put it up to critical after the event, sad irony.

    After this event but it could also mean another threat/incident is imminent


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 56 ✭✭muppetshow




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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    22 people die in the west and everybody loses their mind, I'd say drone attacks in the middle east have killed twice that in the last week alone, when will they light up the Eiffel tower in them countries colours...


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