Terrorist Attack in Manchester (Read MOD WARNING in OP Updated 24/05/2017))

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

But a tiny fraction of 1.8 billon people.

It's like saying all blacks are gang members, or all Mexicans are drug smugglers. It's idiotic.

You will see the stats a few pages back. We are talking hundreds of millions.

DrumSteve wrote: »

To be fair to the RA; at least they had a somewhat definable end goal - A United Ireland.
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A great bunch of lads.

end of the road wrote: »

your suggestion is childish. that is why it has little to no support here

Oh you're not placing your much respected and not at all ridiculed internet persona behind my ideals, that's a damn shame but somehow I'll try to survive.

8 years old, i feel sick to my stomach

The attacker is named as 23 year old Salaman Abedi he was supposedly known to authorities - CBS are reporting this

kopite386 wrote: »

The attacker is named as 23 year old Salaman Abedi he was supposedly known to authorities - CBS are reporting this

They always seem to be.

Strong Life in Dublin wrote: »

Does anyone know what the right thing would be to do in this situation? like how can you stop the bleeding

We stop bleeding by plugging the leak until the blood has a chance to make it's own seal by clotting. With a major injury this needs to happen quickly.

1. Look at the wound to see what's happening. You may have to remove or cut away any clothes. If there's any shrapnel in the wound do NOT remove it, but take care not to jostle it.
2. Apply direct pressure using your hands, knees, or whatever it takes to cover the wound. If there's a big hole you might have to get your hand or fingers in there.
3. Lie them down if they're not already. This prevents further injury should they fall unconscious, and by holding their legs up it can reduce the effects of shock.
4. Apply dressings to the wound if you've been able to control the bleeding. Ideally you'd use sterile gauze dressings, but in a pinch use sanitary towels, nappies, or some torn up clothing. Use a bandage or strip of material to tie it firmly in place so that pressure is maintained. If it bleeds through, don't remove the first dressing as that can pull away clots that have formed. Instead apply a second dressing. Again, if there's a large hole, you may need to stuff it inside them. Note there's no rush on this step if you're able to keep the pressure on with your hand, but eventually you'll get tired.
5. Consider a tourniquet as a last resort only if you can't control the bleeding on a limb using direct pressure. You can make one with a wide strip of material placed about two inches above the wound, towards the torso. Wrap it around their limb and insert like a pen that you can twist to tighten it. You want soft material, something like a leather belt won't work too well as it'll be difficult to cinch tight. Try to record the time you did this, even write it on their cheek marked with a 'T' so whatever doctor ends up treating them knows. Don't worry about having to loosen it again unless you're going to be hours from help.
6. Keep them warm to prevent shock. Put a coat or blanket underneath them, and a second one on top. When we loose a lot of blood our temperature drops
7. Comfort them and find out as much as you can about them, who you can contact, and any allergies or medical conditions they may have.

You should be aware of hygiene, but there's no point wandering off looking for a bathroom to wash your hands while they bleed to death.

Possibly the most important thing though when in a situation like this is to break the bystander effect. If there's a crowd, people often do nothing assuming somebody else will. You end up with a large group doing nothing at all. Once one acts, others will usually follow. Pick somebody specific, make eye contact, and say something firm such as "We need to look after this person".

Hopefully you'll never have to use any of this; in the meantime take a first-aid class.

kopite386 wrote: »

The attacker is named as 23 year old Salaman Abedi he was supposedly known to authorities - CBS are reporting this

Known to authorites? Well there's a bloody shock.

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Islamic leaders condemn 'inhumane' Manchester Arena attack

The Islamic Association of South Humberside, Grimsby and surrounding areas said it's prayers were with the victims and those affected by the attack at the Ariana Grande concert last night.

In a statement issued today, the Association, which represents all the Muslim communities in Grimsby and surrounding area, said: "We strongly condemn last night's horrific attack in Manchester.

"Our thoughts and prayers go out to all those involved in this inhumane incident.

"The Muslim community believe in working and living in peace and safety with others and it is with great sadness we see another tragedy unfold."

You left out loads of that statement. What about the part where they go on to detail the concrete steps they will take to weed this out of their organisation, from which it sprang? The detail on how they will tie in with the authorities to monitor mosque activity and crush all incitement to violence that happens therein? About how to interpret the parts of the koran mentioning violence and interaction with non-believers so that psycho nuts have no justification?

No?

Oh well then. We'll all be back here in a few months again sadly. At least I hope all of us.:(