Terrorist Attack in Manchester (Read MOD WARNING in OP Updated 24/05/2017))

Help!!!! wrote: »

This is a Muslim problem because a non Muslim will not be able to talk these people around. Until Imam's/Scholars or someone prominent in the Muslim world comes out & denounces these attacks they will continue to happen. Of course no one will come out publicly for fear of death.

Islamic leaders condemn 'inhumane' Manchester Arena attack

The Islamic Association of South Humberside, Grimsby and surrounding areas said it's prayers were with the victims and those affected by the attack at the Ariana Grande concert last night.

In a statement issued today, the Association, which represents all the Muslim communities in Grimsby and surrounding area, said: "We strongly condemn last night's horrific attack in Manchester.

"Our thoughts and prayers go out to all those involved in this inhumane incident.

"The Muslim community believe in working and living in peace and safety with others and it is with great sadness we see another tragedy unfold."

An update from the Guardian naming some of the victims. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/23/parents-in-desperate-search-for-missing-children-after-manchester-attack

Richard Hillman wrote: »

And what of the terror attacks in 20-30 years time? Are we going to say "but these are homegrown. They are from Syrian parents and grew up in the Europe".

You have absolutely zero long term view. We will be sending our children into battlefields because their parents didn't want to appear "right wing". Their parents did NOTHING.

Maybe if we don't invade and bomb Muslim countries for 30 years it will be much harder to convince young men to martyr themselves in attacking us?

If there was a queue of British Muslims wanting to do such a thing now this would happen every day of the week.

Fratton Fred wrote: »

22 innocent people, many of them children, lose their lives in a sickening suicide attack and you use this to promote your agenda.

you really need to do some serious growing up.

Have you criticised people using it for their anti immigration agenda?

pilly wrote: »

The point some people are trying to make, or at least it's the one that I think about the most is why do we care more about people based on where they live?

There are children being killed daily in the middle east, do we not a fcuk about them?

Of course we do but psychologically we feel closer and identify more easily with a city close to us and with people who died doing the kind of everyday thing we all do.

Jayop wrote: »

SnakePlissken wrote: »

That was not my suggestion and well you know it, I stated that the remains of one who commits such an atrocity should be buried in pig's blood.

As you've purposely ignored my post to go off on your own tangent I'll ask again, what is your primary objection to burying these murderers in pig's blood? Do you believe they deserve better in death?

I said it was the original suggestion. Seriously is there something ingrained in right wing nuts that they can't read a simple post?

So we're resorting to personal abuse now? I'll refrain from doing likewise, not, because it's against charter rules, but simply because my thoughts now are with those affected by this callous act not childishly point scoring on this thread.

For the record, I am not right wing, nor am I a nut, though if it's simpler for you to believe so rather than putting forth an educated argument have at it.

The first sentiments here were to immediately try and write this off as scaremongering and an accident.
Then the usual digs about posters climbing all over this about "religion of peace".
And the usual suspects were only too willing to thank them for their posts.

Well most of us have copped on that atheists, mormons, sikhs, jews, christians are not so fond of suicide bombing and the wholesale slaughter of unsuspecting innocent people out enjoying themselves for a night.

Then when the accidental cause didn't fly, we are told we must not start calling out muppetry or laying blame because of the victims.

Well there are 22 victims, and counting, who don't have a chance to say anything today or ever again, because some ar**hole decided to blow themselves up last night probably because they believe in some shyteology that means their view of this world and the supposed next is better than everyone elses.

We (as a people, a country, a society, a continent) can of course make ourselves feel superior and more enlightened by posting nice messages on social media, having candle light vigils, painting some famous building or structure in lights, maybe having the odd march.
We will tell each other that they are not winning, that more people die in traffic accidents, that we are superior to them because we are liberal, we will not be pushed into being non liberal, we are not right wing, we will continue to welcome in "refugees" even though they look nothing like a Syrian, Iraqi and can't speak Arabic, Kurdish, Aramaic.
They are worst off than us so must be welcomed and besides we are of course responsible for whatever shytehole they have come out of, we are responsible for all the ills of the world and because they are backward.
Once they see how nice we are, they won't want to rape or kill us.

Sure some of the children of the actual legal immigrants that came before them have lost the faith and adopted hatred for us, but the current batch will be different.

All because we are nice and don't you know only nice things happen to nice friendly people.

We will be back here again in a few months, and it is getting closer.

RobertKK wrote: »

Trump is right, the word "loser" should be associated with anyone who does something like this.

And the culprits name and face should not be plastered on tv and newspapers. I know this may seem like we are going down the German/Swedish route of trying to cover it up, but these guys live off the notoriety.

We don't need security forces to identify the cause of these attacks anymore. We already know.