All Ireland SHC Final (formerly SHC thread) - READ MOD NOTE POST #1

jr86 wrote: »

Eh?

Ellis and lehane were their best two players! Horgan had his best game from play in ages and cahalane was as good as I've seen him

This was miles better than anything cork have produced in years. "Not significantly better"??

Now it remains to be seen whether they can push on yet but there are great signs there. Some outstanding young players. Haven't seen as good a half back line performance since Gardiner Curran and Sean og in their heyday

No doubt they hurled well but as I said in the Tipp thread, the Tipp half forward line scored 12 points from play off them and they set up a few more. They wont be able to cough up that sort of score going forward.
It was some game though, fair play to Cork. With the sweeper looking like its run its course, what a championship we have to look forward to!

Road-Hog wrote: »

Not really......I was just surprised to see a large portion of 'the people republic' attendees stream onto the pitch after a first round game....!

From talking to any Cork person, they were anticipating a bit of a beating. The fact that they played extremely well, beat the AI champions in their own ground in a quality game, they've every right to celebrate.

I thought I noticed the grass was particularly long down here recently!

Qualifiers will be interesting now! Could be like 2013 again with Wexford possibly being a dark horse like we were back then. Dublin won't be at races unfortunately given all the cr@p that is going on.

Tipp ran up a big score but like league final I thought they seemed a bit rusty in the forwards and deployed some strange tactics at times. Great pass from Callanan for the goal and some nice points but overall he was well marshalled.

No doubt Tipp will improve but there will be some serious teams in the first round of qualifiers, including perhaps the old enemy! That would be some game!

PTH2009 wrote: »

almost sure this is the way the system works ??

Prem round takes place Sat 24th June with Carlow/Antrim vs A defeated Leinster QF team

Munster
Tipp
Clare or Limerick
Waterford or Cork
1x of Laois/Westmeath/Offaly/Carlow/Antrim

Leinster
Dublin or Galway
Kilkenny or Wexford
2x of Laois/Westmeath/Offaly/Carlow or Antrim

Round 1 (Sat 1st July)
4x Munster vs 4x Leinster (no repeat pairings)

Round 2 (Sat 8th July)
Round 1 Winner vs Round 1 Winner
Round 1 Winner vs Round 1 Winner (no repeat pairings)

QFS (Sun 23rd July)
Round 2 Winner vs Beaten Munster Finalist
Round 2 Winner vs Beaten Leinster Finalist

have heard round 1 will no be an open draw and is not divided up by provenices ???.

could be some tasty matches in the qualifers, nobody will want a trip to places like Wexford Park, Thurles, Nowlan Park, Walsh Park etc

Presumably Tipp, or Cats if Wexford beat them, will beat first round opponents. That would set it up for second round possibly? As you say, some really good matches in prospect given seeming closeness of 6/7 teams.

As Dub am just really depressed that in a year when that is the case that we have shot ourselves in the bollix. Excuse the French

Cork beating Tipp was a great result for the Munster Championship and ensures a more interesting AI semi final line-up. Tipp have been too dominant in Munster over the last 10 years. All 4 semi finalists will really think we can win, it has actually really got me excited about 2 weeks time. All be it Limerick probably longest odds.
But I would not get too ahead of myself. I thought Tipp looked sluggish again last Sunday and I thought Cork were humming. Yet it was a tight game. Cork played some great stuff but was this their peak, will they be as good against Waterford? For me, it was similar to Limerick v Tipp in Thurles in 14. We were buzzing that day, 5 yards ahead of Tipp for everything, it was a great effort, great to see. Won by 2 but the same old faces ended up at the business end of the season.
It's still far to early to write a team like Tipp off and far too early to pin Cork as real challengers. They do it again against Waterford and I'll look at them as more genuine contenders.
Tipp have to start to peak now. They won it the difficult way last year, from Munster qf straight line to AI and had to beat ourselves, Cork, Waterford, Galway and Kilkenny. That's a tough run and looking at it now, something that would probably have been impossible to repeat two years in a row.
A shock in Leinster is what nearly everyone wants now. Really get things going.
Well done Cork

Who managed cuala last year? Give him a shot.

extra motivation for the Westmeath hurlers this weekend!

http://www.offalyexpress.ie/news/sport/251139/the-sideline-mouthpiece-if-we-can-t-beat-westmeath-we-may-as-well-give-up-hurling.html

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Who managed cuala last year? Give him a shot.

Should be internal. Kenny is not native Dub but he knows the scene well. As does Shay Boland. Need to get away from notion that Dublin hurling is some big franchise with all that goes with that, which of course we cannot mention!

Nothing against Cunningham or outside managers in general but surely it makes sense to have someone living in the place? Daly and Cunningham had good selectors who were at all the games but that's hardly a substitute for being there yourself. I can't imagine that Cody just takes someone else's assessment of a club player without seeing him himself.


the problem in Dublin used to be that club rivalries were so intense and indeed sometimes nasty that it was hard to get a management team that would have full co-operation. An uncle of mine was a selector at time when Vinnies more or less ignored the county team, both for club reasons and because Heffo was over the footballers at the time.

Where are Liam Rushe's socks?

Jesus Dillion!!

Galway looking physically stronger here never mind the skill levels.

Patww79 wrote: »

Can see alredy this is going to be a hiding. Silver lining that it might hasten the Cunningham departure.

Shhhhhh