High Noon with George Hook.

jobbridge4life · 17-05-2017 09:17PM

jooksavage wrote: »

Why do these radio threads always eventually descend into "Denis O'Brien (aka Paddy Rothschild) is a fascist" ?

I presume this is in reference to my comment. To be clear I didn't say, suggest and I certainly don't think that Deni is a fascist. I think he owns the radio station. Like I think Murdoch owns Sky and Fox. They do. I want to know why they have pushed their station in that direction. I think given their incredible wealth and influence it is a legitimate question to which the public are entitled to answer.

kneemos · 17-05-2017 09:23PM

jooksavage wrote: »

Why do these radio threads always eventually descend into "Denis O'Brien (aka Paddy Rothschild) is a fascist" vs. "Blah blah liberal agenda blah blah lefty luvvies..."?

Fairly good percentage of all threads on Boards sooner or later descends into lefty righty. Lack of imagination probably.

jooksavage · 18-05-2017 07:15AM

jobbridge4life wrote: »

I presume this is in reference to my comment. To be clear I didn't say, suggest and I certainly don't think that Deni is a fascist. I think he owns the radio station. Like I think Murdoch owns Sky and Fox. They do. I want to know why they have pushed their station in that direction. I think given their incredible wealth and influence it is a legitimate question to which the public are entitled to answer.

It's just ridiculous to chalk up Hook or any other presenter you don't agree with as an O'Brien stooge. The rest of the programmes are pretty unsympathetic to Trump. Hook is just a bonehead - it's unlikely his incoherent ramblings are being influenced by anything other than his blood sugar levels.

Other shows like Moncrieff and the abysmal Global Village get it from the nuts on the reactionary right -"Denis O'Brien's globalist agenda etc." That kind of thinking is either flat-out paranoia or the arrogant incredulity of a listener who can't toletate a challenging opinion.

positron · 18-05-2017 07:34AM

Hook is the only reason I switch away from Newstalk time to time. He was alright many many years ago, or so I thought, apart from a bit of old-person world view, but then he went down the slippery slope with that guy from Boston and 'tea party's and far right ideals like that and looks like he has gotten worse since.

I can't believe he's still on radio!!

jobbridge4life · 18-05-2017 11:54AM

jooksavage wrote: »

It's just ridiculous to chalk up Hook or any other presenter you don't agree with as an O'Brien stooge. The rest of the programmes are pretty unsympathetic to Trump. Hook is just a bonehead - it's unlikely his incoherent ramblings are being influenced by anything other than his blood sugar levels.

Other shows like Moncrieff and the abysmal Global Village get it from the nuts on the reactionary right -"Denis O'Brien's globalist agenda etc." That kind of thinking is either flat-out paranoia or the arrogant incredulity of a listener who can't toletate a challenging opinion.

Listen, I have often posted how I loved George, I still kind of do. I've listened to him for years. As a listener I have noticed an undeniable shift in his style, positions and the content of his shows. In its final months the Right Hook moved very incoherently and quickly into further and further right wing territory. Similarly with PK in the morning, the show has become more tabloid, more of the 'lets get on a weird crank with righty views'. Pat generally does a somewhat better job at challenging these but they have still increased in number. How many times has Pat had Katie 'drown those refugees' Hopkins on?

It has nothing to do with my views on right or left, it has to do with the power of owning a radio station, maybe it isn't deni himself, maybe it is the people who are managing his media business, or the station itself. IDK. I'd like to find out though.

kneemos · 18-05-2017 12:10PM

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Listen, I have often posted how I loved George, I still kind of do. I've listened to him for years. As a listener I have noticed an undeniable shift in his style, positions and the content of his shows. In its final months the Right Hook moved very incoherently and quickly into further and further right wing territory. Similarly with PK in the morning, the show has become more tabloid, more of the 'lets get on a weird crank with righty views'. Pat generally does a somewhat better job at challenging these but they have still increased in number. How many times has Pat had Katie 'drown those refugees' Hopkins on?

It has nothing to do with my views on right or left, it has to do with the power of owning a radio station, maybe it isn't deni himself, maybe it is the people who are managing his media business, or the station itself. IDK. I'd like to find out though.

DOB or his management team want to turn us all into right wingers via the power of suggestion for some bizzare agenda that nobody can figure out.

A worrying amount of people believe this ****.

jooksavage · 18-05-2017 12:10PM

jobbridge4life wrote: »

How many times has Pat had Katie 'drown those refugees' Hopkins on?

Agreed, that's text-bating at its worst. Matt Cooper downstairs on Today FM does the same thing and it's always terrible.

In all fairness though, Hook has been indulging little-Englanders, Obama-haters and Islamoskeptics long before Trump or Brexit arrived on the scene. Jesus, one time he even let Kevin My-Arse fill in for a whole week. It's all part of his wearisome contrary-old-man shtick.

jobbridge4life · 18-05-2017 12:12PM

kneemos wrote: »

DOB or his management team want to turn us all into right wingers via the power of suggestion for some bizzare agenda that nobody can figure out.

A worrying amount of people believe this ****.

Only I didn't say that at all.

I said two shows have changed. Become more right wing more tabloid. Curious as to know why. Is it a thing of trying to boost ratings by becoming a kind of controversy zone? Or is it George and Pat just changing their styles.

18-05-2017 02:40PM

Hook has to be playing-up the right wing agenda, appearing as he does to be channelling a strange mixture of General de Gaulle and Winston Churchill, with a Cork growl.

He was banging on today about how Chelsea Manning "SHOULD HAVE GOT THE CHAIR". It's difficult to take him seriously at all. I approach the show like it's a light hearted current affairs show. It isn't serious and I have a hard time believing that Hook is being serious.

foxtrot101 · 18-05-2017 04:11PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

He was banging on today about how Chelsea Manning "SHOULD HAVE GOT THE CHAIR". It's difficult to take him seriously at all. I approach the show like it's a light hearted current affairs show. It isn't serious and I have a hard time believing that Hook is being serious.

Manning should get the chair, but no mention of Trump giving intel to the Russians that puts a US allies operative in grave danger. Hook now has an almost pathological resistance to criticizing Trump about anything. It's getting to be pathetic.

super_furry · 18-05-2017 04:12PM

Sums him up for me. Not sure why anyone would want to listen to him, he's like the drunken, vaguely racist uncle that no-one wants to sit near at a wedding.

18-05-2017 04:59PM

super_furry wrote: »

Sums him up for me. Not sure why anyone would want to listen to him, he's like the drunken, vaguely racist uncle that no-one wants to sit near at a wedding.

Yeah but it's a bit of craic! I laugh out loud listening to Hook far more than I do when listening to more explicit satire like Callan's Kicks.

And if it's a choice between sitting beside Racist Uncle George or placid Aunt Mary at a wedding , I'll pick the racist crank every time. It isn't infectious, and it's so ridiculous and irrational I find it amusing.

If anything l find that outrageous comments spouted by the likes of Hook just reinforce my pre-existing outlook.

Brendan Bendar · 18-05-2017 07:18PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Hook has to be playing-up the right wing agenda, appearing as he does to be channelling a strange mixture of General de Gaulle and Winston Churchill, with a Cork growl.

He was banging on today about how Chelsea Manning "SHOULD HAVE GOT THE CHAIR". It's difficult to take him seriously at all. I approach the show like it's a light hearted current affairs show. It isn't serious and I have a hard time believing that Hook is being serious.

Most listeners came to that conclusion at day 1.:rolleyes:

i71jskz5xu42pb · 18-05-2017 10:23PM

jobbridge4life wrote: »

How many times has Pat had Katie 'drown those refugees' Hopkins on?

I always felt a bit embarrassed for Pat when he had her on. I get that he's pretty right wing and while that's not completely my cuppan tae I respected him as a journalist/presenter (all the same I'd hate to have him as a neighbour).

But the Hopkins slot really brought him to tabloid levels.

i71jskz5xu42pb · 18-05-2017 10:29PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

And if it's a choice between sitting beside Racist Uncle George or placid Aunt Mary at a wedding , I'll pick the racist crank every time.

I get what you are saying but does it not get tedious? Especially if Racist Uncle George is not especially bright, eloquent, witty? Second cousin Ivan, bit of a shıt stirrer, but a bit of craic at least.

jobbridge4life · 19-05-2017 11:41AM

Chelsea Miniature Somehow wrote: »

I get what you are saying but does it not get tedious? Especially if Racist Uncle George is not especially bright, eloquent, witty? Second cousin Ivan, bit of a shıt stirrer, but a bit of craic at least.

Precisely. If this is shtick... it's badly done. His positions are incoherent, hypocritical and often just utterly nonsensical. When talks with women it has become embarrassing. The constant need to try and be shocking is mortifying. I heard him maybe last week talk about how he didn't wash his hands after going to the bathroom... and banging on about changing his underwear...

It stopped being funny quite a while ago.

meeeeh · 19-05-2017 12:23PM

The most entertaining part is that people actually get worked up about him, continue to listen and then complain. Just change the station, it's not like he will suddenly change. And no I don't think he s part of DOB agenda to take over the world.

BTW I don't overly listen to him but if I am I just skip first half an hour and then you are grand.

Discodog · 19-05-2017 12:26PM

Cadbury were the enemy for removing the word Easter. Now George is happy to support their event.

19-05-2017 08:13PM

Chelsea Miniature Somehow wrote: »

I get what you are saying but does it not get tedious? Especially if Racist Uncle George is not especially bright, eloquent, witty? Second cousin Ivan, bit of a shıt stirrer, but a bit of craic at least.

That's true, but sadly Ivan isn't an alternative option. I dont listen to music in work, so that (and decent musical taste) rules out Roman Collins or the other Irish stations, and BBC Radio 4 is pure sh1te from 12pm to 1pm (that consumer affairs programme).

I do sometimes listen to New York breakfast radio but it's not usually feasible to listen to radio on my phone so I listen to racist uncle George.

There's very weak competition in that time slot. what do ye all listen to?

wnolan1992 · 19-05-2017 08:33PM

Chelsea Miniature Somehow wrote: »

Second cousin Ivan, bit of a shıt stirrer, but a bit of craic at least.

Maybe it's more a sign of how bad my day has been, but this comment brightened my day to such an extent I felt it necessary to reply to say thank you. I literally laughed out loud.

J Mysterio · 19-05-2017 11:25PM

Ciara seemed to lose it at George today. She went mad!

the_pen_turner · 19-05-2017 11:34PM

J Mysterio wrote: »

Ciara seemed to lose it at George today. She went mad!

cant blame her.
it was funny though

Grolschevik · 20-05-2017 12:24AM

the_pen_turner wrote:

cant blame her. it was funny though

Missed it. What was the context?

the_pen_turner · 20-05-2017 12:31AM

George asked Ciara about if eating a big meal is the same as having a few pints.
she says no and George starts agreeing with healy rea and dismissing the stats that drink is the biggest cause of road deaths.
ended up in a heated discussion. she wasn't having any of it. it was funny

i71jskz5xu42pb · 20-05-2017 01:59PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

There's very weak competition in that time slot. what do ye all listen to?

Spotify.
Not really an answer I know, but as you say nothing else on the other stations at that time worth listening to.

Del.Monte · 22-05-2017 12:44PM

Hook on today about being worried about doctors being influenced by drug companies doesn't seem to see the irony of discussing same on a radio station that's virtually sponsored by drug companies, granny farmers (Bloomberg Care) etc. :rolleyes:

Lady Chatterton · 23-05-2017 12:48PM

I appreciate that George is upset today but maybe he should have pulled a sickie - he has been ranting, raving and crying since noon, it's not very professional.

omerin · 23-05-2017 12:57PM

How inconsiderate of him to have a heart, maybe pat the plank is more to you taste?

J Mysterio · 23-05-2017 01:12PM

George is just quite vulnerable now in his later years. Its a little upsetting really.

He seems to genuinely get upset from texts sent from the public etc. and its just not healthy. I think his producers should have a look at themselves too.

For one, get rid of that piece of shīt Michael Graham.

Lady Chatterton · 23-05-2017 01:23PM

J Mysterio wrote: »

George is just quite vulnerable now in his later years. Its a little upsetting really.

He seems to genuinely get upset from texts sent from the public etc. and its just not healthy. I think his producers should have a look at themselves too.

For one, get rid of that piece of shīt Michael Graham.

I agree, George was genuinely upset today, I thought he was too upset to present the show and was behaving irrationally at times. (He was actually inviting trolls to text him today and then he was distressed when they did).

High Noon with George Hook.

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