Is having a gay Taoiseach really a good idea?

infogiver · 18-05-2017 10:00AM

osarusan wrote: »

As I clicked on this thread, I fully expected you to have a post count of 1.

What difference does it make? In what way would it be a bad idea?

I think he's the best man for the job but his being gay has nothing to do with that.
His ethnicity or sexual persuasion or gender wouldn't have any impact on his leadership ability.
Why do people think it would?

cnocbui · 18-05-2017 10:00AM

d2ww wrote: »

So if Leo does succeed Enda, there is sure to be an orgy of self congratulation about what a modern and progressive little country we are. However, is it really a good idea to send as our main representative abroad, an openly gay man?

How is Apple doing under Tim Cook? With more cash in the bank than Ireland's ?206 Billion national debt, I would say; better than we are.

Consonata · 18-05-2017 10:00AM

dudara wrote: »

The only thing I'll care about is if he is fit

dudara · 18-05-2017 10:01AM

TrustedApple wrote: »

IS he going to be the 1st openly gay leader of a country ?. As if so its crazy to think Ireland a Catholic country will have a gay leader.

The prime minister of Luxembourg is gay. In fact, he and his husband have visited the Vatican.

In the past, Iceland and Belgium have had gay leaders also.

Peregrine · 18-05-2017 10:04AM

It's crazy to think that the OP is actually serious.

Riddle101 · 18-05-2017 10:04AM

I don't care if he is gay or straight just as long as he can do his job. I would hope that Leo will be a true statesman and representative for us. In any case it's important for countries to be professional when dealing with other countries I think. For the sake of good international relationships, I hope that other countries can look past Leo's sexuality.

The_Kew_Tour · 18-05-2017 10:04AM

Im in the anyone but Coveney camp.

If he got in id leave the country

Armchair Andy · 18-05-2017 10:05AM

jacksie66 wrote:

2 threads this morning about Leo Vradkar being gay.. People really need to get a grip of themselves..

As in a circle jerk?

razorblunt · 18-05-2017 10:05AM

I'd much prefer him to Coveney, the lad doesn't seem to have any backbone at all.

enda1 · 18-05-2017 10:05AM

The only way his sexuality could come into consideration is in his ability to improve/maintain good diplomatic relations with some of the less enlightened parts of the world like the Middle East, Uganda, Sudan and Roscommon.

Consonata · 18-05-2017 10:13AM

Peregrine wrote: »

It's crazy to think that the OP is actually serious.

The fact he has not commented since is a pretty good indicator that he was just was bored and wanted to bait AH.

It appears to have worked.

Hector Savage · 18-05-2017 10:16AM

Jesus christ, who cares what his sexuality is ??? !!!
The point is this should be irrelevant like what his favourite colour is.

I'd actually be more worried about how young he is, I would want a more experienced politician leading the field.

suicide_circus · 18-05-2017 10:23AM

He just clearly wants Teashock on his CV so badly that I'm weary of him. If he attempts to widen the tax base so that everyone no matter what their income pays some income tax and does something about the marginal tax rates thereby relieving the pressure on the "squeezed" middle I'll be happy.

NinjaKirby · 18-05-2017 10:24AM

d2ww wrote: »

So if Leo does succeed Enda, there is sure to be an orgy of self congratulation about what a modern and progressive little country we are. However, is it really a good idea to send as our main representative abroad, an openly gay man?

Yes. If he is good at his job then it's absolutely a good idea.

I don't think we should self congratulate but we should at least acknowledge that society has made significant progress regarding treatment of gay men.

Melodeon · 18-05-2017 10:24AM

jacksie66 wrote: »

2 threads this morning about Leo Vradkar being gay..
People really need to get a grip of themselves..

They'll shortly move on to where the name 'Varadkar' comes from and his dusky complexion, no doubt

Kimbot · 18-05-2017 10:25AM

Couldnt care less if he gay, straight or tri-sexual. Why on earth should that have a bearing on his ability to be Taoisheach ffs.

ebbsy · 18-05-2017 10:25AM

jacksie66 wrote: »

2 threads this morning about Leo Vradkar being gay..
People really need to get a grip of themselves..

I love getting a good grip on meself.

Leo w'ont get in anyway. C'ant keep his big gob shut.

threein99 · 18-05-2017 10:26AM

d2ww wrote: »

So if Leo does succeed Enda, there is sure to be an orgy of self congratulation about what a modern and progressive little country we are. However, is it really a good idea to send as our main representative abroad, an openly gay man?

100% irrelevant whether he's gay or not.

eviltwin · 18-05-2017 10:28AM

No one gives a sh1t if our PM is gay, straight, black, white, male, female. That's one of the great things about this country. Leo has the same chance of the top job as anyone. Thing is he's a complete prick so that is going to be his downfall. He's not liked by his own party let alone the public.

Sin City · 18-05-2017 10:29AM

Dress him up in drag and send him to on a state visit to Isisland lol

Seriously though a mans sexual orientation shouldnt be an issue for getting the job

Im sure most of the world leaders also wouldnt give a damn who he sleeps with either , well maybe Trump and the Middle East but Im sure the vast majority would see that as a bonus

fizzypish · 18-05-2017 10:30AM

Is the concern that he'd try to get the leg up on Trump on his next visit? He's gay, not a sex addict.... or desperate..... To the op's only semi valid point, the self congratulation could be annoying but it has the happen. It'll happen again the next time someone outside of the "social norm" is involved in something note worthy. And the time after that..... until it becomes the "social norm" and no one gives a **** that he's gay.

infogiver · 18-05-2017 10:33AM

eviltwin wrote: »

No one gives a sh1t if our PM is gay, straight, black, white, male, female. That's one of the great things about this country. Leo has the same chance of the top job as anyone. Thing is he's a complete prick so that is going to be his downfall. He's not liked by his own party let alone the public.

I'm afraid your delusional if you believe that eviltwin.
There's a huge swathe of FF/FG people down the country aren't ready for anything else other then a white straight male married secondary school teacher.
I can assure you of that.
Simon Coveney would be a shoe in if it was put to a public vote.
FG party know this too.

MysticMonk · 18-05-2017 10:38AM

He won't be taken seriously if he happens to visit any Islamic country..in fact he might well get fecked off a roof.

Ash.J.Williams · 18-05-2017 10:43AM

MysticMonk wrote: »

He won't be taken seriously if he happens to visit any Islamic country..in fact he might well get fecked off a roof.

so what?

Ash.J.Williams · 18-05-2017 10:43AM

I don't think OP is still here.

valoren · 18-05-2017 10:44AM

We shouldn't have a gay Taoiseach is as relevant to leadership ability as suggesting that we shouldn't have a left-handed Taoiseach.

Permabear · 18-05-2017 10:45AM

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AnGaelach · 18-05-2017 10:45AM

osarusan wrote: »

What difference does it make? In what way would it be a bad idea?

I don't care if Vradkar's gay, but some of the problems that could arise would be any delegations with the Middle Eastern/African countries, Russia probably also. Those countries don't exactly have sterling records when it comes to women or homosexuals.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 18-05-2017 10:46AM

Who gives a flying f uck? It's not like we'll make strange taking it up the ass from the government

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 18-05-2017 10:47AM

AnGaelach wrote: »

I don't care if Vradkar's gay, but some of the problems that could arise would be any delegations with the Middle Eastern/African countries, Russia probably also. Those countries don't exactly have sterling records when it comes to women or homosexuals.

Why should we not be progressive to pander to medevil thinking? Screw them

Is having a gay Taoiseach really a good idea?

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