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Is having a gay Taoiseach really a good idea?

  • 18-05-2017 09:43AM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 500 ✭✭✭


    So if Leo does succeed Enda, there is sure to be an orgy of self congratulation about what a modern and progressive little country we are. However, is it really a good idea to send as our main representative abroad, an openly gay man?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 171 ✭✭Gavinz


    Idiotic post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    I was concerned about Enda been a ginger/strawberry blonde taoiseach and that worked out grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,009 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    As I clicked on this thread, I fully expected you to have a post count of 1.
    However, is it really a good idea to send as our main representative abroad, an openly gay man?
    What difference does it make? In what way would it be a bad idea?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭doolox


    Not the most enlightened thought for the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭Sebastian Dangerfield


    d2ww wrote: »
    So if Leo does succeed Enda, there is sure to be an orgy of self congratulation about what a modern and progressive little country we are. However, is it really a good idea to send as our main representative abroad, an openly gay man?

    What do you think could happen if we do?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    Why would it be a problem....his sexuality has nothing to do with his ability as a leader.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    d2ww wrote: »
    So if Leo does succeed Enda, there is sure to be an orgy of self congratulation about what a modern and progressive little country we are. However, is it really a good idea to send as our main representative abroad, an openly gay man?

    To be honest, why do you give a toss what his sexual orientation is?

    I'd be more concerned about whether he is capable of doing the job or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭brevity


    Gone fishin'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭Thoie


    d2ww wrote: »
    So if Leo does succeed Enda, there is sure to be an orgy of self congratulation about what a modern and progressive little country we are. However, is it really a good idea to send as our main representative abroad, an openly gay man?

    Yes.

    Explain why you think it would be a bad idea, or why it matters one way or another. Would you be happier with a gay woman? A straight woman? Someone transgender? Or is your preference solely for straight white men to represent Ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    I couldn't give a toss about the fact that he's gay.

    I do however, give a toss that the most likely person to be Ireland's first openly gay Taoiseach happens to be one of the biggest narcissistic arseholes I've seen in politics. His campaign on cracking down on "welfare fraud" just shows where his allegiances lie, considering he never made a fuss about the actual fraud that happened in this country before, during and after the crash.

    If there's one thing I like about Varadkar, it's that he doesn't play the "gay card" to get him out of jail, but that's about it as far as compliments go.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,234 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    d2ww wrote: »
    So if Leo does succeed Enda, there is sure to be an orgy of self congratulation about what a modern and progressive little country we are. However, is it really a good idea to send as our main representative abroad, an openly gay man?

    Your dead right...He might start making passes at other male national heads of state/prime ministers

    Take your homophobic little concerns elsewhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    Leo Varadkar is one sexay fcuker and I'm not even gay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    as politicians go he comes across as a serious and competent individual. good luck to him.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭from_atozinc


    but he could let a load of other gays in to the country and the gays could take over and everyone could be gay and they could even start teaching how to be gay in school and the gays could have hooks for hands and be able to fly and there could be gay farmers at the mart. quuuuaaaaaarrreeeeeeeesssssssss [Savage eye]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Why would it be a problem....his sexuality has nothing to do with his ability as a leader.

    It pains me to admit it....but FG have a person who appears to be of good leadership material (fcuk if he was in waterford iD vote for him) in him and would be idiotic to even contemplate upsetting idiots at home and abroad by not electing him leader


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Would you be so kind as to elaborate on your post OP?
    Be specific.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Tayschren


    The only problem with being gay and going for the leadership of FG is that a good proportion of the FG party supporters are country, catholic and conservative.

    He wont get the job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    I agree with very few of his policies but who gives a **** if he's gay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy


    Not another cent....expect for all these ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,886 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    Picking him because he is gay would be a stupid idea (i.e. picking him over someone who is better qualified because he is gay).

    Not picking him because he is gay would equally be a stupid idea (i.e. discarding him in favour of someone who is less qualified because he is gay).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,305 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    You have been asked why it would not be a good idea OP, what is your thinking on it? It is true that it might be more difficult for him to be taken seriously in a few countries, but the same can be said of women and black leaders, and they seem to cope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,013 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    OP probably in denial about fancying Leo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    What the f**k does it matter? The only thing I'll care about is if he is fit and competent for the job?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,016 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    It pains me to admit it....but FG have a person who appears to be of good leadership material (fcuk if he was in waterford iD vote for him) in him and would be idiotic to even contemplate upsetting bigots at home and abroad by not electing him leader

    For that reason alone (upsetting bigots) I'd be tempted. Like when Desmond Tutu was made Archbishop of Cape Town by the Anglican Church in apartheid South Africa. Meant the racists in government had to respect protocol and treat him like a white dignitary.

    (I'd have other concerns about Varadkar though, like his record, which seems to be a lot of spin and maybe not that much substance. Still, no better alternative comes to mind.)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    My lack of confidence in Leo would not be due to him being gay. He's just a busy body. Sticks his nose in gets a whiff, makes a comment and moves onto the next thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭TrustedApple


    I have no issues with him being the next leader of Ireland as being honest enda was not even that bad ..... Ireland has kind of recovered and there jobs out there if you look and he took over this country when it was a shocking mess of a place.

    IS he going to be the 1st openly gay leader of a country ?. As if so its crazy to think Ireland a Catholic country will have a gay leader.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,371 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    My lack of confidence in Leo would not be due to him being gay. He's just a busy body. Sticks his nose in gets a whiff, makes a comment and moves onto the next thing.

    He's only full of ould waffle


  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,392 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    It'll be fabulous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭tupenny


    Personally I'd like to see Richard Bruton get the job; Puts the head down, does the job, non show boating type..
    But I'd say Leo will get it and my only prob is yes he is a roide and why are all the good 1s gay , why ffs


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭jacksie66


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