Is having a gay Taoiseach really a good idea?

d2ww

So if Leo does succeed Enda, there is sure to be an orgy of self congratulation about what a modern and progressive little country we are. However, is it really a good idea to send as our main representative abroad, an openly gay man?

Gavinz

Idiotic post.

Winterlong

I was concerned about Enda been a ginger/strawberry blonde taoiseach and that worked out grand.

osarusan

As I clicked on this thread, I fully expected you to have a post count of 1.

However, is it really a good idea to send as our main representative abroad, an openly gay man?

What difference does it make? In what way would it be a bad idea?

doolox

Not the most enlightened thought for the day.

Sebastian Dangerfield

d2ww wrote: »

So if Leo does succeed Enda, there is sure to be an orgy of self congratulation about what a modern and progressive little country we are. However, is it really a good idea to send as our main representative abroad, an openly gay man?

What do you think could happen if we do?

AudreyHepburn

Why would it be a problem....his sexuality has nothing to do with his ability as a leader.

Ulysses Gaze

d2ww wrote: »

So if Leo does succeed Enda, there is sure to be an orgy of self congratulation about what a modern and progressive little country we are. However, is it really a good idea to send as our main representative abroad, an openly gay man?

To be honest, why do you give a toss what his sexual orientation is?

I'd be more concerned about whether he is capable of doing the job or not.

brevity

Gone fishin'

Thoie

d2ww wrote: »

So if Leo does succeed Enda, there is sure to be an orgy of self congratulation about what a modern and progressive little country we are. However, is it really a good idea to send as our main representative abroad, an openly gay man?

Yes.

Explain why you think it would be a bad idea, or why it matters one way or another. Would you be happier with a gay woman? A straight woman? Someone transgender? Or is your preference solely for straight white men to represent Ireland?

MightyMandarin

I couldn't give a toss about the fact that he's gay.

I do however, give a toss that the most likely person to be Ireland's first openly gay Taoiseach happens to be one of the biggest narcissistic arseholes I've seen in politics. His campaign on cracking down on "welfare fraud" just shows where his allegiances lie, considering he never made a fuss about the actual fraud that happened in this country before, during and after the crash.

If there's one thing I like about Varadkar, it's that he doesn't play the "gay card" to get him out of jail, but that's about it as far as compliments go.

Cee-Jay-Cee

d2ww wrote: »

So if Leo does succeed Enda, there is sure to be an orgy of self congratulation about what a modern and progressive little country we are. However, is it really a good idea to send as our main representative abroad, an openly gay man?

Your dead right...He might start making passes at other male national heads of state/prime ministers

Take your homophobic little concerns elsewhere.

gramar

Leo Varadkar is one sexay fcuker and I'm not even gay.

silverharp

as politicians go he comes across as a serious and competent individual. good luck to him.

from_atozinc

but he could let a load of other gays in to the country and the gays could take over and everyone could be gay and they could even start teaching how to be gay in school and the gays could have hooks for hands and be able to fly and there could be gay farmers at the mart. quuuuaaaaaarrreeeeeeeesssssssss [Savage eye]

tomwaterford

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Why would it be a problem....his sexuality has nothing to do with his ability as a leader.

It pains me to admit it....but FG have a person who appears to be of good leadership material (fcuk if he was in waterford iD vote for him) in him and would be idiotic to even contemplate upsetting idiots at home and abroad by not electing him leader

Your Face

Would you be so kind as to elaborate on your post OP?
Be specific.

Tayschren

The only problem with being gay and going for the leadership of FG is that a good proportion of the FG party supporters are country, catholic and conservative.

He wont get the job

DrumSteve

I agree with very few of his policies but who gives a **** if he's gay.

zuutroy

Not another cent....expect for all these ones.

Bob24

Picking him because he is gay would be a stupid idea (i.e. picking him over someone who is better qualified because he is gay).

Not picking him because he is gay would equally be a stupid idea (i.e. discarding him in favour of someone who is less qualified because he is gay).

looksee

You have been asked why it would not be a good idea OP, what is your thinking on it? It is true that it might be more difficult for him to be taken seriously in a few countries, but the same can be said of women and black leaders, and they seem to cope.

Mr. CooL ICE

OP probably in denial about fancying Leo

dudara

What the f**k does it matter? The only thing I'll care about is if he is fit and competent for the job?

volchitsa

tomwaterford wrote: »

It pains me to admit it....but FG have a person who appears to be of good leadership material (fcuk if he was in waterford iD vote for him) in him and would be idiotic to even contemplate upsetting bigots at home and abroad by not electing him leader

For that reason alone (upsetting bigots) I'd be tempted. Like when Desmond Tutu was made Archbishop of Cape Town by the Anglican Church in apartheid South Africa. Meant the racists in government had to respect protocol and treat him like a white dignitary.

(I'd have other concerns about Varadkar though, like his record, which seems to be a lot of spin and maybe not that much substance. Still, no better alternative comes to mind.)

Dravokivich

My lack of confidence in Leo would not be due to him being gay. He's just a busy body. Sticks his nose in gets a whiff, makes a comment and moves onto the next thing.

TrustedApple

I have no issues with him being the next leader of Ireland as being honest enda was not even that bad ..... Ireland has kind of recovered and there jobs out there if you look and he took over this country when it was a shocking mess of a place.

IS he going to be the 1st openly gay leader of a country ?. As if so its crazy to think Ireland a Catholic country will have a gay leader.

Ubbquittious

Dravokivich wrote: »

My lack of confidence in Leo would not be due to him being gay. He's just a busy body. Sticks his nose in gets a whiff, makes a comment and moves onto the next thing.

He's only full of ould waffle

MarkR

It'll be fabulous.

tupenny

Personally I'd like to see Richard Bruton get the job; Puts the head down, does the job, non show boating type..
But I'd say Leo will get it and my only prob is yes he is a roide and why are all the good 1s gay , why ffs

jacksie66

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infogiver

osarusan wrote: »

As I clicked on this thread, I fully expected you to have a post count of 1.


What difference does it make? In what way would it be a bad idea?

I think he's the best man for the job but his being gay has nothing to do with that.
His ethnicity or sexual persuasion or gender wouldn't have any impact on his leadership ability.
Why do people think it would?

cnocbui

d2ww wrote: »

So if Leo does succeed Enda, there is sure to be an orgy of self congratulation about what a modern and progressive little country we are. However, is it really a good idea to send as our main representative abroad, an openly gay man?

How is Apple doing under Tim Cook? With more cash in the bank than Ireland's ?206 Billion national debt, I would say; better than we are.

Consonata

dudara wrote: »

The only thing I'll care about is if he is fit

dudara

TrustedApple wrote: »

IS he going to be the 1st openly gay leader of a country ?. As if so its crazy to think Ireland a Catholic country will have a gay leader.

The prime minister of Luxembourg is gay. In fact, he and his husband have visited the Vatican.

In the past, Iceland and Belgium have had gay leaders also.

Peregrine

It's crazy to think that the OP is actually serious.

Riddle101

I don't care if he is gay or straight just as long as he can do his job. I would hope that Leo will be a true statesman and representative for us. In any case it's important for countries to be professional when dealing with other countries I think. For the sake of good international relationships, I hope that other countries can look past Leo's sexuality.

The_Kew_Tour

Im in the anyone but Coveney camp.

If he got in id leave the country

Armchair Andy

jacksie66 wrote:

2 threads this morning about Leo Vradkar being gay.. People really need to get a grip of themselves..

As in a circle jerk?

razorblunt

I'd much prefer him to Coveney, the lad doesn't seem to have any backbone at all.

enda1

The only way his sexuality could come into consideration is in his ability to improve/maintain good diplomatic relations with some of the less enlightened parts of the world like the Middle East, Uganda, Sudan and Roscommon.

Consonata

Peregrine wrote: »

It's crazy to think that the OP is actually serious.

The fact he has not commented since is a pretty good indicator that he was just was bored and wanted to bait AH.

It appears to have worked.

Hector Savage

Jesus christ, who cares what his sexuality is ??? !!!
The point is this should be irrelevant like what his favourite colour is.

I'd actually be more worried about how young he is, I would want a more experienced politician leading the field.

suicide_circus

He just clearly wants Teashock on his CV so badly that I'm weary of him. If he attempts to widen the tax base so that everyone no matter what their income pays some income tax and does something about the marginal tax rates thereby relieving the pressure on the "squeezed" middle I'll be happy.

NinjaKirby

d2ww wrote: »

So if Leo does succeed Enda, there is sure to be an orgy of self congratulation about what a modern and progressive little country we are. However, is it really a good idea to send as our main representative abroad, an openly gay man?

Yes. If he is good at his job then it's absolutely a good idea.

I don't think we should self congratulate but we should at least acknowledge that society has made significant progress regarding treatment of gay men.

Melodeon

jacksie66 wrote: »

2 threads this morning about Leo Vradkar being gay..
People really need to get a grip of themselves..

They'll shortly move on to where the name 'Varadkar' comes from and his dusky complexion, no doubt

Kimbot

Couldnt care less if he gay, straight or tri-sexual. Why on earth should that have a bearing on his ability to be Taoisheach ffs.

ebbsy

jacksie66 wrote: »

2 threads this morning about Leo Vradkar being gay..
People really need to get a grip of themselves..

I love getting a good grip on meself.

Leo w'ont get in anyway. C'ant keep his big gob shut.

threein99

d2ww wrote: »

So if Leo does succeed Enda, there is sure to be an orgy of self congratulation about what a modern and progressive little country we are. However, is it really a good idea to send as our main representative abroad, an openly gay man?

100% irrelevant whether he's gay or not.

eviltwin

No one gives a sh1t if our PM is gay, straight, black, white, male, female. That's one of the great things about this country. Leo has the same chance of the top job as anyone. Thing is he's a complete prick so that is going to be his downfall. He's not liked by his own party let alone the public.

Sin City

Dress him up in drag and send him to on a state visit to Isisland lol

Seriously though a mans sexual orientation shouldnt be an issue for getting the job

Im sure most of the world leaders also wouldnt give a damn who he sleeps with either , well maybe Trump and the Middle East but Im sure the vast majority would see that as a bonus