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  • #1382
    FrannoFan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭FrannoFan


    D14Rugby wrote: »
    In fairness with those two you've mentioned dardis has been really unlucky with injuries,when he gets 4/5 games under his belt he looks very good but unfortunately that hasn't happened a lot, and Brewer was brought in as a guy converted to centre who was improving as a centre but he just wasn't enjoying playing there so dropped out and went to NZ and back to flanker. He has looked good as a flanker since returning but that's a very very competitive area. I see what you're saying but I don't think those two can be put down to short term thinking.

    yea, dardis a bad example. he looked ridiculously talented at one stage. Think tony ward did the over hype nonsense of calling for him to be in an irish squad (think a 20 year old watson was being called up to england at same time)

    still feel while Girve was in charge lads succeeded in spite of him rather than because of him . Wasn't impressed with his time in charge but that is just my personal feeling on the matter. i'm sure plenty feel he did fine in the role.


  • #1383
    letf
    Site Banned Posts: 262 ✭✭letf


    FrannoFan wrote: »
    yea, dardis a bad example. he looked ridiculously talented at one stage. Think tony ward did the over hype nonsense of calling for him to be in an irish squad (think a 20 year old watson was being called up to england at same time)

    still feel while Girve was in charge lads succeeded in spite of him rather than because of him . Wasn't impressed with his time in charge but that is just my personal feeling on the matter. i'm sure plenty feel he did fine in the role.

    So you don't rate Girve as a coach?

    I think there is certainly question marks over how good he is.

    Dardis just doesn't do anything outstandingly and isn't an elite athlete for his size.. his 17 year old brother is a better athlete and bigger.


  • #1384
    FrannoFan
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    letf wrote: »
    So you don't rate Girve as a coach?

    I think there is certainly question marks over how good he is.

    Dardis just doesn't do anything outstandingly and isn't an elite athlete for his size.. his 17 year old brother is a better athlete and bigger.

    No, don't rate Girve. Jobs for the boys.


  • #1385
    Ayewserious
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    Will Conor dean be offered an academy place?


  • #1386
    letf
    Site Banned Posts: 262 ✭✭letf


    Ayewserious wrote: »
    Will Conor dean be offered an academy place?

    If not this summer, i'd be surprised if he didn't get one next summer.

    Very unlucky to get injured when he did.


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  • #1387
    letf
    Site Banned Posts: 262 ✭✭letf


    FrannoFan wrote: »
    No, don't rate Girve. Jobs for the boys.

    rate Smyth?

    I think Leinster are very lucky Lancaster came in when he did..


  • #1388
    Jimmy Savory Refrigeration
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    There have been an almost unprecedented crop of youngsters who've come through the academy into the senior squad in recent years, particularly forwards. You're looking at guys as far back as Jack McGrath up to guys this season like ROL.

    You note some common things with them, they're all highly professional and driven, every single one from front-row to back-three has better ball skills than anyone could expect from a group of Irish players, fitness is excellent, and while it's somewhat an external factor the quality of player has been pretty outstanding. An awful lot of that happened under Girve's watch. Think you guys are being a bit harsh on him, from where I'm sitting it looks like he did a very good job in the academy.


  • #1389
    letf
    Site Banned Posts: 262 ✭✭letf


    Khalid Poor Jeep wrote: »
    There have been an almost unprecedented crop of youngsters who've come through the academy into the senior squad in recent years, particularly forwards. You're looking at guys as far back as Jack McGrath up to guys this season like ROL.

    You note some common things with them, they're all highly professional and driven, every single one from front-row to back-three has better ball skills than anyone could expect from a group of Irish players, fitness is excellent, and while it's somewhat an external factor the quality of player has been pretty outstanding. An awful lot of that happened under Girve's watch. Think you guys are being a bit harsh on him, from where I'm sitting it looks like he did a very good job in the academy.

    were those ball skills fostered in academy or did they start earlier?

    hard to separate what Girve is responsible for and what underage coaches did.

    As i said, I think you could certainly have questions over how good he really is.


  • #1390
    FrannoFan
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    letf wrote: »
    rate Smyth?

    I think Leinster are very lucky Lancaster came in when he did..

    Jury out on Smyth but at least he has a coaching history with blackrock and Marys AIL. You would hope he has a good view of clubs and schools with that background. You would worry he may be overly biased by his own Blackrock history as a student and coach but would hope not.

    Girve had no coaching history when he got the job (B&I Cup a load of nonsense) Fogarty the same.

    Lancaster has saved Leinster. Delighted we have him and delighted it looks like he is staying for two more years at least.


  • #1391
    FrannoFan
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    Khalid Poor Jeep wrote: »
    There have been an almost unprecedented crop of youngsters who've come through the academy into the senior squad in recent years, particularly forwards. You're looking at guys as far back as Jack McGrath up to guys this season like ROL.

    You note some common things with them, they're all highly professional and driven, every single one from front-row to back-three has better ball skills than anyone could expect from a group of Irish players, fitness is excellent, and while it's somewhat an external factor the quality of player has been pretty outstanding. An awful lot of that happened under Girve's watch. Think you guys are being a bit harsh on him, from where I'm sitting it looks like he did a very good job in the academy.

    They are highly professional and driven as you said and those traits were all evident when they were underage. As MOC said when he was with us no one survives the Leinster system who isn't and who isn't a bit of a leader as well (look at the number of captains of schools/U20's etc who have come through)

    He would be pretty shocking if NO players came through the system under his watch. The academy is meant to add the polish/prepare them for the pro game. Fitness, core skills, s&c are all worked on by the clubs and schools before they ever get as far as academy.


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  • #1392
    letf
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    FrannoFan wrote: »
    Jury out on Smyth but at least he has a coaching history with blackrock and Marys AIL. You would hope he has a good view of clubs and schools with that background. You would worry he may be overly biased by his own Blackrock history as a student and coach but would hope not.

    Girve had no coaching history when he got the job (B&I Cup a load of nonsense) Fogarty the same.

    Lancaster has saved Leinster. Delighted we have him and delighted it looks like he is staying for two more years at least.

    Agreed on Lancaster.

    Also agree that i'm very skeptical about Fogarty as a coach.

    Lots of talent coming out of Blackrock at the moment, so while it might look like bias to those who don't know, it probably isn't.


  • #1393
    Jimmy Savory Refrigeration
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    FrannoFan wrote: »
    They are highly professional and driven as you said and those traits were all evident when they were underage. As MOC said when he was with us no one survives the Leinster system who isn't and who isn't a bit of a leader as well (look at the number of captains of schools/U20's etc who have come through)

    He would be pretty shocking if NO players came through the system under his watch. The academy is meant to add the polish/prepare them for the pro game. Fitness, core skills, s&c are all worked on by the clubs and schools before they ever get as far as academy.

    It's been the exact opposite of NO players though, it's been a glut of players basically like we haven't seen before.


  • #1394
    D14Rugby
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    FrannoFan wrote: »
    yea, dardis a bad example. he looked ridiculously talented at one stage. Think tony ward did the over hype nonsense of calling for him to be in an irish squad (think a 20 year old watson was being called up to england at same time)

    still feel while Girve was in charge lads succeeded in spite of him rather than because of him . Wasn't impressed with his time in charge but that is just my personal feeling on the matter. i'm sure plenty feel he did fine in the role.

    Thing with Dardis is I saw Leinster training a while ago when I was in UCD for some reason anyway so thought I'd stop and watch them for a while, hed been back a few weeks at that stage i think and they did a bit of a training match and he got the ball at one stage and just beat 2/3 players with ease. Then he got injured the next week i think and was back to square one. I think theres a player in there just plagued by injuries.

    I think Girve did fine, I don't think he's the best coach in the world but he's not the worst and youve got to remember it isnt just him especially in the academy I'd say nearly every coach in leinster is involved at some stage in contracts and training so its would be very harsh to blame one person for something, especially when the academy is doing so well.


  • #1395
    sjwpjw
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    According to the RBAI fb page two of their leavers have full Ulster Academy places with another getting a sub Academy place.

    What is the difference if anyone knows?


  • #1396
    The Lost Sheep
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    FrannoFan wrote: »
    if only 4 players have been made offers it sounds like there will be more made. As said, that is a low number to take in. Wait and see before getting too worried.

    A player might be good enough for Connacht who are realistically fighting for 6th in the table, that same player might not be good enough for leinster who basically are looking for international quality players. Both clubs are fighting on different fronts. Same way a player might be good enough for stoke city wouldn't be of interest to Real Madrid

    i would agree there is an issue with players from big schools appearing better than there club counter parts. The academy should be looking rough diamonds to polish not the finished articles. Talking to an S&C coach from Leinster he reckons it takes at least a year to close the physical conditioning gap. There does seem to be some seriously short term thinking from academy managers since colin mcentee was replaced by girvan Dempsey
    Certainly will be more offers made. Its only end of april so still bargaining time and there hasnt been just 4 additions to any academy in quite some time
    Schoos players are seen more, get more opportunities so will more often than not appear better. Thats role trevor hogan is filling in Leinster. He is the provincial talent coach and he is focusing much more on clubs set up than the schools for now as they need the help/focus more.
    thebaz wrote: »
    No - schools are primarily about education, not professional rugby - besides current system is working pretty good, the quality of young players coming through Leinster academies is excellent, I can never remember a better crop of players.
    The current system is working ok but still very very flawed
    sjwpjw wrote: »
    According to the RBAI fb page two of their leavers have full Ulster Academy places with another getting a sub Academy place.

    What is the difference if anyone knows?
    Sub academy is screening process and will involve more players than are in academy and who have ability to step up to the academy in the near future. Sub academy used to see how players will cope in pro set up with the aim if good enough and ready. the player will go into academy later.


  • #1397
    Squidgy Black
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    sjwpjw wrote: »
    According to the RBAI fb page two of their leavers have full Ulster Academy places with another getting a sub Academy place.

    What is the difference if anyone knows?

    Sub Academy is very much like being part of the full academy but without the contract, they would train alongside the academy lads a lot but would also play AIL. It's more of a test to see how they'll fare out before offering them a full contract.

    Charlie Rock is probably the most recent example I can think of a player who joined the sub academy and got promoted.


  • #1398
    Tarf1234
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    Was told that Frawley was offered Leinster academy as a 10 and Connacht academy as a 12 and choose Connacht.


  • #1399
    GavMan
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    Little point in comparing the Irish 20's setup to picking for academy spots.

    20's are picking the best players for here and now. The Academy bosses have to pick 10-15 guys they believe might make it in the pro game. They're both very different kettles of fish


  • #1400
    letf
    Site Banned Posts: 262 ✭✭letf


    Prop
    Saba Meunargia(Year 3/Connacht) - on loan at Nottingham
    Jamie Dever(Year 3/Connacht) - future uncertain
    Rory Burke(Year 3/Munster) - future uncertain
    Brian Scott(Year 3/Munster) - future uncertain
    Michael Lagan(Year 3/Ulster) - future uncertain
    Craig Trenier(Year 3/Ulster) - future uncertain
    Ross Kane(Year 2/Ulster) - promoted to senior contract
    Oisin Heffernan(Year 2/Leinster)
    Jeremy Loughman(Year 2/Leinster)
    Liam O'Connor(Year 2/Munster)
    JP Phelan(Year 2/Munster)
    Conan O'Donnell(Year 2/Connacht)
    Peter Cooper(Year 2/Ulster)
    Conor Kyne(Year 2/Connacht)
    Andrew Porter(Year 1/Leinster) - promoted to senior contract
    Conor Kenny(Year 1/Connacht)
    Tommy O'Hagan(Year 1/Ulster)

    Hooker
    Jack Dineen(Year 3/Connacht) - future uncertain
    Pat O'Toole(Year 2/Connacht)
    Sean McNulty(Year 2/Leinster)
    Adam McBurney(Year 1/Ulster)
    Zack McCall(Year 1/Ulster)
    Vincent O'Brien(Year 1/Munster)

    Second Row
    Alex Thompson(Year 3/Ulster) - future uncertain
    Cian Romaine(Year 2/Connacht) - playing club rugby in NZ for summer
    Peter Claffey(Year 1/Connacht)
    Cillian Gallagher(Year 1/Connacht)
    James Ryan(Year 1/Leinster) - promoted to senior contract
    Sean O'Connor(Year 1/Munster)
    Fineen Wycherley(Year 1/Munster)

    Backrow
    Marc Kelly(Year 3/Connacht) - future uncertain
    Peadar Timmins(Year 3/Leinster) - promoted to senior contract
    Stephen McVeigh(Year 2/Connacht)
    Josh Murphy(Year 2/Leinster)
    David O'Connor(Year 2/Leinster)
    Nick Timoney(Year 2/Ulster)
    Ben Kilkenny(Year 2/Munster)
    Conor Oliver(Year 2/Munster)
    Ollie Lyons(Year 2/Munster) - released earlier in the season
    Max Deegan(Year 1/Leinster)
    Will Connors(Year 1/Leinster)
    Aaron Hall(Year 1/Ulster)
    Conall Boomer(Year 1/Ulster)
    Marcus Rea(Year 1/Ulster)
    Gavin Coombes(Year 1/Munster)
    John Foley(Year 1/Munster)

    Scrumhalf
    Conor McKeon(Year 3/Connacht) - promoted to senior contract
    Nick McCarthy(Year 3/Leinster) - promoted to senior contract
    Conor Lowndes(Year 2/Connacht)
    Charlie Rock(Year 2/Leinster)
    Stephen Kerins(Year 1/Connacht)
    Jonny Stewart(Year 1/Ulster)

    Outhalf
    Ross Byrne(Year 3/Leinster) - promoted to senior contract
    Joey Carbery(Year 2/Leinster) - promoted to senior contract
    Bill Johnston(Year 2/Munster)
    Andy MaGrath(Year 2/Ulster)

    Outside Backs
    Rory O'Loughlin(Year 3/Leinster) - promoted to senior contract
    Ciaran Gaffney(Year 3/Connacht) - playing club rugby in NZ for summer
    Jack Owens(Year 3/Ulster) - future uncertain
    David Busby(Year 3/Ulster) - future uncertain
    Dan Goggin(Year 3/Munster) - future uncertain
    Greg O'Shea(Year 3/Munster) - future uncertain
    Stephen Fitzgerald(Year 3/Munster) - future uncertain
    Ned Hodson(Year 2/Munster)
    Cormac Brennan(Year 2/Connacht)
    Ed O'Keefe(Year 2/Connacht)
    Steven McMahon(Year 2/Munster)
    Rob Lyttle(Year 2/Ulster) - promoted to senior contract
    Rory Butler(Year 1/Ulster)
    Jimmy O'Brien(Year 1/Leinster)
    Conor O'Brien(Year 1/Leinster)
    Shane Daly(Year 1/Munster)
    Calvin Nash(Year 1/Munster)
    Terry Kennedy(Year 1/Leinster)
    Jack Power(Year 1/Leinster)
    Hugo Keenan(Year 1/Leinster)
    Adam Leavy(Year 1/Connacht)
    Aaron Cairns(Year 1/Ulster)
    Matthew Byrne(Year 1/Connacht)


  • #1401
    FellasFellas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭FellasFellas


    letf wrote: »
    Prop
    Saba Meunargia(Year 3/Connacht) - on loan at Nottingham
    Jamie Dever(Year 3/Connacht) - future uncertain
    Rory Burke(Year 3/Munster) - future uncertain
    Brian Scott(Year 3/Munster) - future uncertain
    Michael Lagan(Year 3/Ulster) - future uncertain
    Craig Trenier(Year 3/Ulster) - future uncertain
    Ross Kane(Year 2/Ulster) - promoted to senior contract
    Oisin Heffernan(Year 2/Leinster)
    Jeremy Loughman(Year 2/Leinster)
    Liam O'Connor(Year 2/Munster)
    JP Phelan(Year 2/Munster)
    Conan O'Donnell(Year 2/Connacht)
    Peter Cooper(Year 2/Ulster)
    Conor Kyne(Year 2/Connacht)
    Andrew Porter(Year 1/Leinster) - promoted to senior contract
    Conor Kenny(Year 1/Connacht)
    Tommy O'Hagan(Year 1/Ulster)

    Hooker
    Jack Dineen(Year 3/Connacht) - future uncertain
    Pat O'Toole(Year 2/Connacht)
    Sean McNulty(Year 2/Leinster)
    Adam McBurney(Year 1/Ulster)
    Zack McCall(Year 1/Ulster)
    Vincent O'Brien(Year 1/Munster)

    Second Row
    Alex Thompson(Year 3/Ulster) - future uncertain
    Cian Romaine(Year 2/Connacht) - playing club rugby in NZ for summer
    Peter Claffey(Year 1/Connacht)
    Cillian Gallagher(Year 1/Connacht)
    James Ryan(Year 1/Leinster) - promoted to senior contract
    Sean O'Connor(Year 1/Munster)
    Fineen Wycherley(Year 1/Munster)

    Backrow
    Marc Kelly(Year 3/Connacht) - future uncertain
    Peadar Timmins(Year 3/Leinster) - promoted to senior contract
    Stephen McVeigh(Year 2/Connacht)
    Josh Murphy(Year 2/Leinster)
    David O'Connor(Year 2/Leinster)
    Nick Timoney(Year 2/Ulster)
    Ben Kilkenny(Year 2/Munster)
    Conor Oliver(Year 2/Munster)
    Ollie Lyons(Year 2/Munster) - released earlier in the season
    Max Deegan(Year 1/Leinster)
    Will Connors(Year 1/Leinster)
    Aaron Hall(Year 1/Ulster)
    Conall Boomer(Year 1/Ulster)
    Marcus Rea(Year 1/Ulster)
    Gavin Coombes(Year 1/Munster)
    John Foley(Year 1/Munster)

    Scrumhalf
    Conor McKeon(Year 3/Connacht) - future uncertain
    Nick McCarthy(Year 3/Leinster) - promoted to senior contract
    Conor Lowndes(Year 2/Connacht)
    Charlie Rock(Year 2/Leinster)
    Stephen Kerins(Year 1/Connacht)
    Jonny Stewart(Year 1/Ulster)

    Outhalf
    Ross Byrne(Year 3/Leinster) - promoted to senior contract
    Joey Carbery(Year 2/Leinster) - promoted to senior contract
    Bill Johnston(Year 2/Munster)
    Andy MaGrath(Year 2/Ulster)

    Outside Backs
    Rory O'Loughlin(Year 3/Leinster) - promoted to senior contract
    Ciaran Gaffney(Year 3/Connacht) - playing club rugby in NZ for summer
    Jack Owens(Year 3/Ulster) - future uncertain
    David Busby(Year 3/Ulster) - future uncertain
    Dan Goggin(Year 3/Munster) - future uncertain
    Greg O'Shea(Year 3/Munster) - future uncertain
    Stephen Fitzgerald(Year 3/Munster) - future uncertain
    Ned Hodson(Year 2/Munster)
    Cormac Brennan(Year 2/Connacht)
    Ed O'Keefe(Year 2/Connacht)
    Steven McMahon(Year 2/Munster)
    Rob Lyttle(Year 2/Ulster) - promoted to senior contract
    Rory Butler(Year 1/Ulster)
    Jimmy O'Brien(Year 1/Leinster)
    Conor O'Brien(Year 1/Leinster)
    Shane Daly(Year 1/Munster)
    Calvin Nash(Year 1/Munster)
    Terry Kennedy(Year 1/Leinster)
    Jack Power(Year 1/Leinster)
    Hugo Keenan(Year 1/Leinster)
    Adam Leavy(Year 1/Connacht)
    Aaron Cairns(Year 1/Ulster)
    Matthew Byrne(Year 1/Connacht)

    Conor McKeon is on a senior contract.


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  • #1402
    Wegians89
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    letf wrote: »
    Prop
    Saba Meunargia(Year 3/Connacht) - on loan at Nottingham
    Jamie Dever(Year 3/Connacht) - future uncertain
    Rory Burke(Year 3/Munster) - future uncertain
    Brian Scott(Year 3/Munster) - future uncertain
    Michael Lagan(Year 3/Ulster) - future uncertain
    Craig Trenier(Year 3/Ulster) - future uncertain
    Ross Kane(Year 2/Ulster) - promoted to senior contract
    Oisin Heffernan(Year 2/Leinster)
    Jeremy Loughman(Year 2/Leinster)
    Liam O'Connor(Year 2/Munster)
    JP Phelan(Year 2/Munster)
    Conan O'Donnell(Year 2/Connacht)
    Peter Cooper(Year 2/Ulster)
    Conor Kyne(Year 2/Connacht)
    Andrew Porter(Year 1/Leinster) - promoted to senior contract
    Conor Kenny(Year 1/Connacht)
    Tommy O'Hagan(Year 1/Ulster)

    Hooker
    Jack Dineen(Year 3/Connacht) - future uncertain
    Pat O'Toole(Year 2/Connacht)
    Sean McNulty(Year 2/Leinster)
    Adam McBurney(Year 1/Ulster)
    Zack McCall(Year 1/Ulster)
    Vincent O'Brien(Year 1/Munster)

    Second Row
    Alex Thompson(Year 3/Ulster) - future uncertain
    Cian Romaine(Year 2/Connacht) - playing club rugby in NZ for summer
    Peter Claffey(Year 1/Connacht)
    Cillian Gallagher(Year 1/Connacht)
    James Ryan(Year 1/Leinster) - promoted to senior contract
    Sean O'Connor(Year 1/Munster)
    Fineen Wycherley(Year 1/Munster)

    Backrow
    Marc Kelly(Year 3/Connacht) - future uncertain
    Peadar Timmins(Year 3/Leinster) - promoted to senior contract
    Stephen McVeigh(Year 2/Connacht)
    Josh Murphy(Year 2/Leinster)
    David O'Connor(Year 2/Leinster)
    Nick Timoney(Year 2/Ulster)
    Ben Kilkenny(Year 2/Munster)
    Conor Oliver(Year 2/Munster)
    Ollie Lyons(Year 2/Munster) - released earlier in the season
    Max Deegan(Year 1/Leinster)
    Will Connors(Year 1/Leinster)
    Aaron Hall(Year 1/Ulster)
    Conall Boomer(Year 1/Ulster)
    Marcus Rea(Year 1/Ulster)
    Gavin Coombes(Year 1/Munster)
    John Foley(Year 1/Munster)

    Scrumhalf
    Conor McKeon(Year 3/Connacht) - promoted to senior contract
    Nick McCarthy(Year 3/Leinster) - promoted to senior contract
    Conor Lowndes(Year 2/Connacht)
    Charlie Rock(Year 2/Leinster)
    Stephen Kerins(Year 1/Connacht)
    Jonny Stewart(Year 1/Ulster)

    Outhalf
    Ross Byrne(Year 3/Leinster) - promoted to senior contract
    Joey Carbery(Year 2/Leinster) - promoted to senior contract
    Bill Johnston(Year 2/Munster)
    Andy MaGrath(Year 2/Ulster)

    Outside Backs
    Rory O'Loughlin(Year 3/Leinster) - promoted to senior contract
    Ciaran Gaffney(Year 3/Connacht) - playing club rugby in NZ for summer
    Jack Owens(Year 3/Ulster) - future uncertain
    David Busby(Year 3/Ulster) - future uncertain
    Dan Goggin(Year 3/Munster) - future uncertain
    Greg O'Shea(Year 3/Munster) - future uncertain
    Stephen Fitzgerald(Year 3/Munster) - future uncertain
    Ned Hodson(Year 2/Munster)
    Cormac Brennan(Year 2/Connacht)
    Ed O'Keefe(Year 2/Connacht)
    Steven McMahon(Year 2/Munster)
    Rob Lyttle(Year 2/Ulster) - promoted to senior contract
    Rory Butler(Year 1/Ulster)
    Jimmy O'Brien(Year 1/Leinster)
    Conor O'Brien(Year 1/Leinster)
    Shane Daly(Year 1/Munster)
    Calvin Nash(Year 1/Munster)
    Terry Kennedy(Year 1/Leinster)
    Jack Power(Year 1/Leinster)
    Hugo Keenan(Year 1/Leinster)
    Adam Leavy(Year 1/Connacht)
    Aaron Cairns(Year 1/Ulster)
    Matthew Byrne(Year 1/Connacht)

    Believe Gaffney Romaine, McVeigh, Dineen, Lowndes and O Keefe were all released by Connacht


  • #1403
    ScrumORProp
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 52 ✭✭ScrumORProp


    Munster released Ned Hodson, Steve McMahon and Bill Kilkenny early. Also released Rory Burke and Greg O'Shea.

    Promoted Conor Oliver and Bill Johnston early. Also promoted Stephen Fitzgerald, Brian Scott and Dan goggin.


  • #1404
    Quintis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Quintis


    ScrumORProp wrote: »
    Munster released Ned Hodson, Steve McMahon and Bill Kilkenny early. Also released Rory Burke and Greg O'Shea.

    Promoted Conor Oliver and Bill Johnston early. Also promoted Stephen Fitzgerald, Brian Scott and Dan goggin.

    Has the new year 1 intake been announced?


  • #1405
    ScrumORProp
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 52 ✭✭ScrumORProp


    No.


  • #1406
    RobbieRuns
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    Do you mean Ben Kilkenny?


  • #1407
    The Lost Sheep
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    Munster have announced their intake for next season

    http://munsterrugby.ie/2017/06/27/new-recruits-for-greencore-munster-rugby-academy/


  • #1408
    Tarf1234
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    Frawley confirmed in Leinster with the expected Hughie, Aungier, Kelleher, Mullin, Doris and Dowling. Deegan promoted to Senior as well which isn't overly surprising.
    Confirmed JP (may be staying Tarf) to Munster and David O'Connor released.


  • #1409
    The Lost Sheep
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    Munster and Leinster academies for next season, in style of op. Connacht and Ulster yet to announce their intakes for next season.
    http://munsterrugby.ie/2017/06/27/new-recruits-for-greencore-munster-rugby-academy/
    http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/max-deegan-awarded-senior-contract-as-academy-roster-announced/

    Liam O’Connor Loosehead/Munster
    Joey Conway Loosehead/Munster
    Jeremy Loughman Loosehead/Leinster
    Vincent O’Brien Hooker/Munster
    Sean McNulty Hooker/Leinster
    Ronan Kelleher Hooker/Leinster
    JP Phelan Tighthead/Munster
    Jack Aungier Tighthead/Leinster
    Oisin Heffernan Tighthead/Leinster
    Sean O’Connor Second Row/Munster
    Fineen Wycherley Second Row/Munster
    Oisín Dowling Second Row/Leinster
    Gavin Coombes Flanker/Munster
    John Foley Flanker/Munster
    Jack O’Sullivan Flanker/Munster
    Caelan Doris Back Row/Leinster
    Josh Murphy Flanker/Leinster
    Will Connors Flanker/Leinster
    Jack Stafford Scrumhalf/Munster
    Craig Casey Scrumhalf/Munster
    Hugh O’Sullivan Scrum half/Leinster
    Charlie Rock Scrumhalf/Leinster
    Conor Fitzgerald Outhalf/Munster
    Alan Tynan Outhalf/Munster
    Alex McHenry Centre/Munster
    Calvin Nash Centre/Wing/Munster
    Shane Daly Centre/Munster
    Conor O’Brien Centre/Leinster
    Jimmy O’Brien Centre/Leinster
    Gavin Mullin Centre/Leinster
    Tommy O’Brien Centre/Leinster
    Liam Coombes Wing/Full Back/Munster
    Daniel Hurley Wing/Munster
    Hugo Keenan Wing/Leinster
    Terry Kennedy Wing/Leinster
    Jordan Larmour Wing/Leinster
    Ciaran Frawley Wing/Leinster
    James McCarthy Fullback/Munster
    Jack Power Fullback/Munster
    Ian Fitzpatrick Full Back/Leinster
    Jack Kelly Full Back/Leinster


  • #1410
    Ayewserious
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    Anyone no if Paul Boyle Charlie Connelly colm hogan David McCarthy or Jordan Dugan got offers from anywhere?


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  • #1411
    Ayewserious
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    Colm hogan > Liam Coombes...Conor fitz is lucky to be there as well


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