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RAW Superthread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,083 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I'm guessing from the Curt Hawkins bits on Raw that they'll do a return/debut at Payback with him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,354 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    I'm guessing from the Curt Hawkins bits on Raw that they'll do a return/debut at Payback with him.

    Mark Henry

    Who else is there really too return/debut ???


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 26,077 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Raw's lost almost a million viewers this month. Good job.

    Needs more Big Dwag....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,083 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Clearly that's the connection. Reigns left and Balor came back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,019 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Clearly that's the connection. Reigns left and Balor came back

    The whole show has been on auto pilot, nothing to horrible, but its like Raw is in limbo since the shake up and probably wont get stable feuds until after Payback.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Reigns gets a lot of flak but there is a noticeable lack of star power when he isn't on TV. Same goes for Goldberg.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 26,077 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Reigns gets a lot of flak but there is a noticeable lack of star power when he isn't on TV. Same goes for Goldberg.

    That's only because WWE have pushed the two of them so strongly. If they got behind more of their stars other than using them as food for Reigns push they'd have more star power on the roster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Loughc wrote: »
    That's only because WWE have pushed the two of them so strongly. If they got behind more of their stars other than using them as food for Reigns push they'd have more star power on the roster.

    Well they gave Balor a win over Reigns on his first night drafted to Raw and Reigns gave him props after the loss. Soon after he got injured. That left their plans for the end of 2016 in tatters as Balor was set to be the big star for that period.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 26,077 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Well they gave Balor a win over Reigns on his first night drafted to Raw and Reigns gave him props after the loss. Soon after he got injured. That left their plans for the end of 2016 in tatters as Balor was set to be the big star for that period.

    That's one person on Raw other than Reigns they strapped a rocket to. Who else have they built up since. Vince is so focused on making Reigns look strong he's wasting some serious talent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,019 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Loughc wrote: »
    That's one person on Raw other than Reigns they strapped a rocket to. Who else have they built up since. Vince is so focused on making Reigns look strong he's wasting some serious talent.

    You'd swear Roman was being booked like Hogan circa 1988, burying people left n right. Roman isnt being winning every single match. There booking of Roman isnt the problem, the booking with the rest of the roster is the problem.

    Sure last year after the beat Hunter he was booked in a great feud with AJ Styles, in which it elevated Styles to the point where he was considered WWE Main Event material. he was putting Balor over.

    Then he lost to the title to a returning Seth Rollins. He wasnt even close to the main focus of Summerslam. Balors injury obviously changed the plans of what was happening and Roman was put back in the mix as a result.

    Then Goldberg Lesnar happened and Goldberg unexpectedly stayed on. Maina was changed so much as a result of these two occurrences.

    Reigns isnt booked right IMO but theres no doubt he gets a reaction and he has a main event presence about him and he is missed when absent.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    beakerjoe wrote:
    Reigns isnt booked right IMO but theres no doubt he gets a reaction and he has a main event presence about him and he is missed when absent.

    WWE completely fu*ked up his booking post Mania. He was getting huge reactions the next night on Raw & then 1 week later they have Braun crush him like a grape. Made no sense to me as everyone forgot he retired Taker then which should be a HUGE deal.
    I'm still wondering if they will back up on the Taker retirement as they have used words like "allegedly" to describe it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,019 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    ERG89 wrote: »
    WWE completely fu*ked up his booking post Mania. He was getting huge reactions the next night on Raw & then 1 week later they have Braun crush him like a grape. Made no sense to me as everyone forgot he retired Taker then which should be a HUGE deal.
    I'm still wondering if they will back up on the Taker retirement as they have used words like "allegedly" to describe it.

    Thats just one instance in a long line of bad WWE creative decisions in recent years on how to book him. Hes a capable wrestler, very charismatic, connects with the crowd (albeit in terms of heel heat rather than a face reaction), looks the part, yet time after time he's booked horribly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    ERG89 wrote: »
    WWE completely fu*ked up his booking post Mania. He was getting huge reactions the next night on Raw & then 1 week later they have Braun crush him like a grape. Made no sense to me as everyone forgot he retired Taker then which should be a HUGE deal.
    I'm still wondering if they will back up on the Taker retirement as they have used words like "allegedly" to describe it.

    had to write reigns off tv somehow. there are bigger things than wrestling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,019 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    had to write reigns off tv somehow. there are bigger things than wrestling.

    He was written off before his brother past IIRC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    He was written off before his brother past IIRC.

    was his brother not sick before he died.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,019 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    was his brother not sick before he died.

    Ive actually no idea, I assumed it was sudden. Im probably wrong


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    was his brother not sick before he died.
    beakerjoe wrote: »
    Ive actually no idea, I assumed it was sudden. Im probably wrong

    No he wasn't, due to weight and heart problems, this is from Rosey's wikipedia page.
    In January 2014, Anoaʻi was hospitalized due to congestive heart failure (with which he had been diagnosed years earlier) and atrial fibrillation. He died on April 17, 2017,10 days after his 47th birthday, in Pensacola, Florida, due to congestive heart failure related to his weight problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    had to write reigns off tv somehow. there are bigger things than wrestling.

    Pretty sure he was at Raw this week but just wasn't used.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,354 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    So y2j is going too back too fozzyland after next Mondays raw so I assume he is not winning the us title at payback

    They could have him do an interview backstage and then an angry Braun Strowman (pissed off cause he lost to reigns at payback) beats the living crap out of him and y2j is wrote off tv for a while


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,019 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    So y2j is going too back too fozzyland after next Mondays raw so I assume he is not winning the us title at payback

    They could have him do an interview backstage and then an angry Braun Strowman (pissed off cause he lost to reigns at payback) beats the living crap out of him and y2j is wrote off tv for a while

    Now thats not a bad idea.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Well with Jericho soon to be reverting back to Rockstar Jericho and waving goodbye for now, my interest in RAW will plummet further.

    Then again he's earned it, Fozzy are a great band.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,019 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    Well with Jericho soon to be reverting back to Rockstar Jericho and waving goodbye for now, my interest in RAW will plummet further.

    Then again he's earned it, Fozzy are a great band.

    Ah the gimmick was always gonna be harder when he turned face. Perfect time to leave


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,949 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    Ah the gimmick was always gonna be harder when he turned face. Perfect time to leave

    Are you saying you don't appreciate Jericho?

    You know what happens, beakerjoe? You know what happens to people who don't appreciate Jeircho?

    *clicks pen*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Brock Lesnar will defend his Universal Championship July 9th @ (and this isn't a joke at all) the Great Balls Of Fire PPV.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    Brock Lesnar will defend his Universal Championship July 9th @ (and this isn't a joke at all) the Great Balls Of Fire PPV.

    Goodness gracious...


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,949 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    That's dreadful.

    I embrace being a wrestling fan, warts and all. But that's a horrific name that really embarrasses even me. I will not say that name aloud to anyone....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,019 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    That's dreadful.

    I embrace being a wrestling fan, warts and all. But that's a horrific name that really embarrasses even me. I will not say that name aloud to anyone....

    Its shockingly bad..... there has to be some sort of fire gimmick match or something to justify it because I can think of about 20 better names off the top of my head. Fcuk sake Vince


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,354 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Great balls of fire ??

    Going to be an hillarious few weeks with cole and co tryin too hype it with it a cheesy and terrible title

    Vinnie is losing his mind


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Vince must've been listening to Jerry Lee Lewis's Great Ball Of Fire and thought "That's a great name for a pay per view DAMN IT" :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,545 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    I can imagine the poster for that already involving a certain Big Dog, but even describing it wouldn't be PG!


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