RAW Superthread

CastorTroy

And the fact there's no post during or after it means no one can be bothered. Will watch this evening.

And hope all goes/went well Lithium

CIARAN_BOYLE

I only watched highlights. Was half expecting Reigns to come out of the dumpster. Was surprised and pleased that he didn't.

magnumbud

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I only watched highlights. Was half expecting Reigns to come out of the dumpster. Was surprised and pleased that he didn't.

i'd imagine he was given time off after his brother died last week

CIARAN_BOYLE

magnumbud wrote: »

i'd imagine he was given time off after his brother died last week

I know, its just a dumpster is perfect for someone hiding to make a return.

magnumbud

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I know, its just a dumpster is perfect for someone hiding to make a return.

Lord TSC

Decent Raw. Enjoyed Jericho/Ambrose interacting, and without ignoring their previous feuds too. Enjoyed Matt vs Sheamus. Loved the Brawn/Kalisto match, though i worry not in the way I was meant too. I just found it hilarious watching Strowman murder Kalisto, especially when he launched him like a javelin across the ring and Kalisto held his pose as he fell.

PTH2009

so we got Finn (with Big Cass & Rollins) vs the Club and Joe and not a whisper about it here lol

Mokuba

Last week -

Mokuba wrote: »

I'll be honest, I thought it was a very good Raw.

Good segment with Braun and Kurt. Good backstage stuff. Good match between Jeff and Cesaro. Alexa went over which I LOVED after a decent women's match. (and the crowd did too). Finn had a squash which was fine, and the main event was great.

Thought Miz promo was excellent, and actually have me interest in a match and feud which has been done already. Unfortunately, Ambrose seems a bit lost at the moment, and I think they just want Miz as champion - which is why we're getting it again.


If they put on more like that I'll tune in every week.

This week -

Definitely a massive step down.

Finn acting like he never met Anderson and Gallows was very annoying and a definite wasted opportunity.

Bray was ruined again at WM (after Smackdown somehow managed to salvage him), couldn't care less about him. Them making him look strong for a week only to lose a meaningful feud is so typical of the booking of his character.

I remember liking Bayley more in NXT - she is so out of Alexa's league on the mic, it makes her look like a complete idiot. There's only so many times I can listen to her make the same promo until I stop caring. That's already happened for me. Alexa may not be on the level of the horsewomen in the ring but she has plenty of room for improvement and her promo is Top 5 in the company (including men). Look forward to her stuff every week.

Sorely missing a competitive Universal Title picture.

PTH2009 wrote: »

so we got Finn (with Big Cass & Rollins) vs the Club and Joe and not a whisper about it here lol

Well they acted like Finn, Gallows and Anderson had never met so..

ERG89

Balor has been called up & all he got the last month was hit head nearly taken off.
In hindsight they should have made his return happen at Payback & build it up on Raw for a few weeks. Show his doc on the network, make him look a big deal. He's heading into feud with Bray Wyatt who hasn't had a good feud ever. Reigns, Ambrose, Jericho, Bryan, Cena were never ending & made no sense. This Orton one was only entertaining if you take the piss out of it.

J. Marston

A theory on Balor from r/SquaredCircle...

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/67e2cz/anyone_else_getting_suspicious_about_raw_spoilers/

I doubt Raw's writers are that clever. Shame though, because that would be more entertaining than listening to Bray shíte on about the buzzards and Sister Abigail again.

Mr.Nice Guy

I can't recall Finn getting any mic time since he returned. His motivations are unclear and make no sense. He sided with Rollins who injured him and gloated when he had to give up the Universal Title. He didn't acknowledge Gallows and Anderson in any way despite it being referenced on commentary that they know each other from Japan.

All he does is come out, flick his leather jacket collar, and wave his arms. I love the guy having followed his career for a decade but looking at it from the point of view of a casual fan, why should they care about him? He seems like an afterthought to WWE Creative. And a Balor/Wyatt feud is just going to be a bunch of hocus pocus about demons and such which I think will flop on Raw.

beakerjoe

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I can't recall Finn getting any mic time since he returned. His motivations are unclear and make no sense. He sided with Rollins who injured him and gloated when he had to give up the Universal Title. He didn't acknowledge Gallows and Anderson in any way despite it being referenced on commentary that they know each other from Japan.

All he does is come out, flick his leather jacket collar, and wave his arms. I love the guy having followed his career for a decade but looking at it from the point of view of a casual fan, why should they care about him? He seems like an afterthought to WWE Creative. And a Balor/Wyatt feud is just going to be a bunch of hocus pocus about demons and such which I think will flop on Raw.

Im dreading this. Nether man will get over as with every Wyatt feud. Both men need the win and shouldnt be feuding (same problem I have with Joe and Rollins).

Lithium93_

CastorTroy wrote: »

And the fact there's no post during or after it means no one can be bothered. Will watch this evening.

And hope all goes/went well Lithium

Watched YouTube clips, glad I went to bed when I did.

All went well, now to wait for the results in a few months.

ERG89

Miz: You'll never work in this town again!
Axel: Kansas City??
Miz: Hollywood you moron!

Miz makes this sh!t watchable.
It's a pity Raw hasn't improved more since Steph & HHH left. Kurt like the Hardy'so has already blended into the WWE background & is just, there.

ricero

Read online today that titus o neill wont be wrestling anymore and will take on a managers role

beakerjoe

beakerjoe wrote: »

Im dreading this. Nether man will get over as with every Wyatt feud. Both men need the win and shouldnt be feuding (same problem I have with Joe and Rollins).

This is a problem with the WWE in general. Everyone seems to be trading wins and losses. In a storyline sense Rollins can't lose to a lackie of HHH, and Joe can't lose his first proper feud. Wyatt is effectively a joke has never come out of a feud with a win why should i as a viewer care who he's against he's going to lose. So then it doesn't matter if Balor wins as there's no jeopardy in the feud. I have no idea what's going on with the Hardyz keep them from talking so there's no spark to the feud. Can enzo and Cass please go away for a while or turn heel as they sure as hell ain't faces, i cant buy Gallows and Anderson they've been treated so poorly, they should almost be like an APA light. I don't watch 205 live so i couldn't give a fiddler's about the cruiserweights. The Women will take their time to find their feet without Charlotte, when Sasha turns on Bayley it'll help.

Miz will end up lost on Raw it's annoying that he's in a program with Ambrose.

Braun is awesome though, I'm enjoying him but it's going to be ruined when Roman returns. On a side note a friend of mine has just got back into WWE and he was shocked when i said Roman was a face he couldn't believe it. Based on credit reaction. And the little snippets of his promos he's seen.

Lord TSC

ricero wrote: »

Read online today that titus o neill wont be wrestling anymore and will take on a managers role

Any particular reason why :O

Loughc

Lord TSC wrote: »

Any particular reason why :O

He hugged Vince... :pac:

Ben Gadot

Bayley looked visibly uncomfortable to me during that segment so it was hard to watch. No matter how good Bliss is I don't see how anyone could have enjoyed that skewering. Rollins did something similar to Balor.

Every man and woman for themselves it seems regardless of the love ins you might see on Instagram and the like.

Funnily enough given how they seem to be friends in real life I would have loved to see AJ Lee in Bayley's place in that segment. She would have given Bliss a run for her money through expression and presence alone.

beakerjoe

Bliss is head and shoulders above both Sasha and Bayley character wise. Sasha is a horrible face, her boss character is much more a heel persona and she is awful as a face. Bayley plays her part well but the lack of development in her character is a missed opportunity.

beakerjoe

ricero wrote: »

Read online today that titus o neill wont be wrestling anymore and will take on a managers role

Hes wrestling Rhyno on Main event

CastorTroy

Commentators did say Balor and the Club have history in Japan.
Kalisto's new gear looks like it's made from the same material as Muta. The horns on the mask look pretty solid so I thought it would've hurt when he hit Braun's chin off them.
And I thought a dumpster match is won by closing the lid. I know that's a casket match, but thought the dumpster match was the same.

It's funny Alexa saying about Bayley and the rainbows and unicorns, yet she used to come out like a pixie or fairy with glitter and all.

Wonder what caused the big welt on Miz's leg. And was that Bray's first proper appearance on Raw since the shake up?
Good to see they're changing things up by seemingly setting up another SD/SD feud in Ambrose and Wyatt.

kopite386

Bayley needs improvement on the mic that's all I could think during that segment
Also I agree that Sasha is a much better heel than she is a gave her whole character is such a heel

PTH2009

Are they going with Wyatt vs Ambrose and Miz vs Balor ???

Balor is guest on Miz TV on the Payback pre show

Ben Gadot

kopite386 wrote: »

Bayley needs improvement on the mic that's all I could think during that segment
Also I agree that Sasha is a much better heel than she is a gave her whole character is such a heel

It's more than that, some of Bliss's promo was just humiliating personally for Bayley. Even Bayley's boyfriend responded on twitter.

You wonder why these writers have to come up with such cringey bull****.

ricero

Lord TSC wrote: »

Any particular reason why :O

Heard there trying to give him abraham washingtons old gimmick which he used when he managed titus and young as the prime time players

A Brad Maddox Guy

"Alexa Bliss is the best, say what?" "WHAT!" Alexa's my favourite woman on RAW now even if she is still pretty green in the ring.

CastorTroy

Who was the third official with Fit Finlay and Jamie Noble?

Jerichoholic

Raw's lost almost a million viewers this month. Good job.

PTH2009

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Raw's lost almost a million viewers this month. Good job.

Bring taker out of retirement

Batista/The Rock and Cena are busy in Hollywood

Could bring back Triple H and Steph