Eir rural FTTH thread

Fibre to the press release.

Again.

And again.

Gonzo wrote: »

decent honest video. I liked the way at the end she admitted that Eir does carry baggage and a reputation from the past which they are trying very hard to fix, first time I've heard them admit that.

Very true as well that they are the only provider doing anything about rural Ireland.

If it wasn't for Eir I would still be sitting with these speedtests.

I look at that in envy. That was 9 times faster than my vodafone bb connection.

damienirel wrote: »

The only company that you might have taken seriously out of all you list there were Siro - they have proven to be a major disappointment to rural dwellers, and even to city folk as their rollout is very lacklustre.

Eir are at least are rolling something out albeit at a snails pace.

I think most of us here let go of the idea of 100,000 by March a long time ago. In fairness open eir had delays at the start finishing up the FTTC and getting the FTTH started, but even from looking at this thread the amount of people getting connected or being connected in the next month is on a massive increase even in the last month and a half. Same goes for the amount of new followers on the thread wondering about installations etc.

I don't think they are going at a snails pace anymore. They've really upped their game in the last few weeks working 7 days a week etc. and I think they've turned the corner on what eir used to be IMO.

damienirel wrote: »

The 300k are to be finished by end of 2018 do you believe that will happen?

While it is possible, I think they are being a bit over optimistic on that, but they still aren't putting FTTH on the back burner anymore and they definitely aren't going at a snail's pace.

daraghwal wrote: »

I think most of us here let go of the idea of 100,000 by March a long time ago. In fairness open eir had delays at the start finishing up the FTTC and getting the FTTH started, but even from looking at this thread the amount of people getting connected or being connected in the next month is on a massive increase even in the last month and a half. Same goes for the amount of new followers on the thread wondering about installations etc.

I don't think they are going at a snails pace anymore. They've really upped their game in the last few weeks working 7 days a week etc. and I think they've turned the corner on what eir used to be IMO.

It does seem that eir had estimated 100K by end of last month, but made no serious effort to reach that figure.
eir seems to have become much more serious about the numbers since the agreement was signed.
One might easily believe it was the delay/negotiations around that agreement which caused the lack of progress.

I think eir should have made it clearer that their 100K estimate was dependent on the Gov approving the 300k coming out of the NBP.

At least now that the agreement is in place we can see real progress.

damienirel wrote: »

The 300k are to be finished by end of 2018 do you believe that will happen?

Unless there are some other factors of which we are unaware, I expect eir to get very close to that figure.

Of course I also expected eir to reach about 80k by the end of last month .......

damienirel wrote: »

LOL i do like the optimism! and I hope you're right about them taking it seriously now, since the agreement, that could well be true.

We'll live in hope! (again:rolleyes:)

Gonzo wrote: »

We are lucky to be getting a rollout such as this, there are countries far bigger an wealthier than Ireland making a dogs dinner of their plans, look at Australia and their NBN, it was meant to be FTTH, but then the government in 2013 went against that and signed the NBN to a mix of technologies (Satellite, Wireless, FTTN and FTTP). 2/3's of their rollout promises speeds of less than 100megs. Broadband is really slow and laggy across most of urban and rural Australia with only small pockets of FTTN (Like FTTC), while most of the country, even modern business parks and apartments within places like Sydney still on ADSL for the forseeable future. Even where fibre is available there are complaints of massive congestion during peak times with speeds of up to 100megs reduced to single digits for hours each evening.

I'd rather wait a few years instead of getting that anyway!

chris241111 wrote: »

We are lucky to be getting a rollout such as this, there are countries far bigger an wealthier than Ireland making a dogs dinner of their plans, look at Australia and their NBN, it was meant to be FTTH, but then the government in 2013 went against that and signed the NBN to a mix of technologies (Satellite, Wireless, FTTN and FTTP). 2/3's of their rollout promises speeds of less than 100megs. Broadband is really slow and laggy across most of urban and rural Australia with only small pockets of FTTN (Like FTTC), while most of the country, even modern business parks and apartments within places like Sydney still on ADSL for the forseeable future. Even where fibre is available there are complaints of massive congestion during peak times with speeds of up to 100megs reduced to single digits for hours each evening.[/QUOTE]

Frankly, I believe it is this kind of attitude that has stunted Ireland's growth in every sector of our economy and has contributed to Ireland being less wealthier . "Ara sure aren't you glad your getting a slow rollout of (insert product) look at (x) they have made a dogs dinner of it. Many other factors have made it extremely difficult to roll out fibre, the large expanses of inhabitable terrain, their population is around 4.5 times greater than ours, but their country is 110 times greater. How about you compare with any other country Norway , Sweden even ROMANIA.
We are a small country, but that is no reason to compare to any ther country and say at least we are better than them. How about we recognise that we have intelligent and highly skilled workers, probably the best in the world ,and therefore we should be the best in the world not just a bit better than the worst country.
If we adopted even an American outlook, our country would be very wealthy, if we demanded the best infrastructure and resources and not settled for less just because (x) country has worse infrastructure.[/quote]

Do you have any idea what a complete dogs dinner broadband is in the US?! It's completely fragmented, ADSL is very common in built up areas, cable companies have shady monopolies in cities, there is usually very poor service indeed and NO choice or competition in most areas.

Blogin wrote: »

That's great news. They've gone further than I thought. 
Hopefully they will make it down the other side of Pallasgreen village soon. I've never seen them around my side.

You Dromkeen, Oola, or Cappamore side of Pallas?
(splitting the 3 side of pallas)

chris241111 wrote: »

Frankly, I believe it is this kind of attitude that has stunted Ireland's growth in every sector of our economy and has contributed to Ireland being less wealthier . "Ara sure aren't you glad your getting a slow rollout of (insert product) look at (x) they have made a dogs dinner of it. Many other factors have made it extremely difficult to roll out fibre, the large expanses of inhabitable terrain, their population is around 4.5 times greater than ours, but their country is 110 times greater. How about you compare with any other country Norway , Sweden even ROMANIA.
We are a small country, but that is no reason to compare to any ther country and say at least we are better than them. How about we recognise that we have intelligent and highly skilled workers, probably the best in the world ,and therefore we should be the best in the world not just a bit better than the worst country.
If we adopted even an American outlook, our country would be very wealthy, if we demanded the best infrastructure and resources and not settled for less just because (x) country has worse infrastructure.

I think, in fact I know you are completely wrong.

Romania does not offer FTTH in rural hinterlands and not even in all urban areas and AFAIK are not even contemplating it.

Sweden have 32% penetration FTTH

Singapore has a strong FTTH network but its basically a large city with a land mass about the size of the aran Islands and even there it isn't 100% universal rollout not even close... Also while its marketed at 1Gb its only 1Gb internal.. ie if you use external servers it limited to 150mb

Korea is about 80% penetration but Korea is an urban population.

What we are attempting to do in Ireland with both Eir and NBP is cutting edge, world class, best in class even so running 6 or 8 months late while not great isn't the end of the world.

FYI the US infrastructure is a disaster and falling apart. The freeway system is disintegrating, many rural roads are unpaved, hell even rural suburban areas have unpaved roads. The power infrastructure is a joke with half of California having annual blackouts. The telecoms infrastructure is a mess, far worse then ours.

Our infrastructure is far better than you appear to think. Perhaps I am older than you but the improvement in our infrastructure over the last 15 to 20 years, particularly the road and telecoms networks is unbelievable.. When you think of where we were in the 80's or even the 90's..

We aint perfect, there are many things wrong but we are getting better all the time.. If politics (and I mean populist protests) stayed out of it we would be even further ahead..