Wives... were you glad pubs weren't open today

18-04-2017 04:35PM

Murrisk wrote: »

I just don't see the point in that kind of high volume drinking - drink all day, head to the club, have a session the next day. I just can't see the appeal. It just strikes me as trying to reach a drinking goal or something, for what reason I don't know. It certainly doesn't sound like fun.

The idea of someone rocking up to the club with 20 pints in them is amusing though. How sexy. :P

I can't think many things (if anyway) that I enjoy more than a full day on the beer

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Murrisk · 18-04-2017 04:36PM

Alma Weak Stabilizer wrote: »

I can't think many things (if anyway) that I enjoy more than a full day on the beer .

But, like, break it down for me. What makes it so great? I am genuinely interested because you obviously do enjoy it.

18-04-2017 04:41PM

Murrisk wrote: »

But, like, break it down for me. What makes it so great? I am genuinely interested because you obviously do enjoy it.

Its just a very enjoyable way to spend the day, having the craic with the lads/girls, the conversations that evolve throughout the day, the fun atmosphere, following the days sport on tv (and having a few bets), obviously feeling good from the drink itself etc.

Best of all is if you go to the early house*, packed pub at 8am, place rocking. Nothing like it.

*Obviously visited for special occasions only a few times per year

Parchment · 18-04-2017 04:42PM

Alma Weak Stabilizer wrote: »

Its just a very enjoyable way to spend the day, having the craic with the lads/girls, the conversations that evolve throughout the day, following the days sport on tv (and having a few bets), obviously feeling good from the drink itself etc.

What age are you?

18-04-2017 04:43PM

Parchment wrote: »

What age are you?

Early 30's.

Electric Sheep · 18-04-2017 04:50PM

Alma Weak Stabilizer wrote: »

Its just a very enjoyable way to spend the day, having the craic with the lads/girls, the conversations that evolve throughout the day, the fun atmosphere, following the days sport on tv (and having a few bets), obviously feeling good from the drink itself etc.

Best of all is if you go to the early house, packed pub at 8am, place rocking. Nothing like it.

I found that fun on occasion when I was 20. By the time I was 30 I found those drunken conversations very tedious and avoided daytime pubs.

Fighting Tao · 18-04-2017 04:51PM

Murrisk wrote: »

But, like, break it down for me. What makes it so great? I am genuinely interested because you obviously do enjoy it.

What makes whatever you enjoy so great? Some people like to spend time playing tiddlywinks, golf, football etc. and others like to spend time in the pub. Different people enjoy different things.

I occasionally like going to the pub just like I occasionally like to hike. You may not like either and that is perfectly fine.

Murrisk · 18-04-2017 05:00PM

Alma Weak Stabilizer wrote: »

Its just a very enjoyable way to spend the day, having the craic with the lads/girls, the conversations that evolve throughout the day, the fun atmosphere, following the days sport on tv (and having a few bets), obviously feeling good from the drink itself etc.

Best of all is if you go to the early house*, packed pub at 8am, place rocking. Nothing like it.

*Obviously visited for special occasions only a few times per year

Fair enough. Have to disagree on early houses. Been in them a few times in my life and they are grim places. There's something tragic about needing booze that early in the daylight.

Fighting Tao wrote: »

What makes whatever you enjoy so great? Some people like to spend time playing tiddlywinks, golf, football etc. and others like to spend time in the pub. Different people enjoy different things.

They do indeed and what is the harm in asking someone about it? If I'm curious about something, I ask. And if someone asked me about something I enjoy, I'd have no problem answering.

Thanks for giving me permission to not like something though.

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osarusan · 18-04-2017 05:09PM

What does age or all day sessions and how people on here feel about them have to do with the OP though?

Murrisk · 18-04-2017 05:10PM

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They are awful places, aren't they? I think it's because you know that the clientele is mostly made up of people with an alcohol dependency. A depression hangs in the air. I think back to my days of working in Tesco. We'd have people coming in on Sunday at opening time (10am) looking for booze and getting antsy when we told them we couldn't sell it for another two hours. These are your early house core customers.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater · 18-04-2017 05:10PM

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and, while I genuinely have never been to an early house myself (and have no inclination to change that), I don't see how so many people here are having a hard time understanding why someone would enjoy drinking alcohol, to what they deem to be excess or otherwise -regardless of what time of day or night they choose to do their drinking, or where.

Murrisk · 18-04-2017 05:13PM

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: »

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and, while I genuinely have never been to an early house myself (and have no inclination to change that), I don't see how so many people here are having a hard time understanding why someone would enjoy drinking alcohol.

Not drinking alcohol, drinking a huge volume of the stuff. I mean, I'm no angel, one or twice a year, I get very drunk. It's not more often than that because I realise that once I got very drunk, I didn't enjoy the night, and the hangovers and money spent simply weren't worth it. That doesn't equate to not enjoying drinking alcohol in any volume.

Murrisk · 18-04-2017 05:15PM

osarusan wrote: »

What does age or all day sessions and how people on here feel about them have to do with the OP though?

Nothing, I suppose the conversation just evolved.

pxdf9i5cmoavkz · 18-04-2017 05:18PM

mockingjay wrote: »

He pays the mortgage, I pay all other bills, including groceries and things the kids need or for the house, house/car insurance/tax etc - really not a lot left over - this is fine - after that we have our own money - I try to save for Christmas, holidays etc. I earn much less than him - we don't pool leftovers. Might seem strange but that's how we do it. So a night out would impact on my budget, there's always something to spend it on or try and save for (so alcohol definitely not a priority).

In my opinion, the only fair way to handle expenses is to pay by percentage.

A contrived example:

Your gross salary is: €2000
His gross salary is: €3000
Combined: €5000

Your percentage is: 40%
His percentage is: 60%

What should happen now is that all expenses are paid by the percentage amount. If the mortgage is €1300, you will be paying 40% (€520) and he will be paying 60% (€780).

It's important that this is only done on expenses that contributes to the household. Mortgage, Food, Utilities, Petrol, Insurance etc.. etc..

Your cellphone contract is your expense, your clothes shopping is your expense. These are not added to the overall household expenses.

Cyrus · 18-04-2017 05:21PM

Tanner Brief Gypsy wrote: »

In my opinion, the only fair way to handle expenses is to pay by percentage.

A contrived example:

Your gross salary is: €2000
His gross salary is: €3000
Combined: €5000

Your percentage is: 40%
His percentage is: 60%

What should happen now is that all expenses are paid by the percentage amount. If the mortgage is €1300, you will be paying 40% (€520) and he will be paying 60% (€780).

It's important that this is only done on expenses that contributes to the household. Mortgage, Food, Utilities, Petrol, Insurance etc.. etc..

Your cellphone contract is your expense, your clothes shopping is your expense. These are not added to the overall household expenses.

or you act like grown ups, realise you are married, pool everything together, pay all the bills, agree on an house hold budget, amount to save etc and split the remainder.

a marriage where one person has more disposable income than the other doesnt seem fair to me

Murrisk · 18-04-2017 05:22PM

Tanner Brief Gypsy wrote: »

In my opinion, the only fair way to handle expenses is to pay by percentage.

A contrived example:

Your gross salary is: â‚¬2000
His gross salary is: â‚¬3000
Combined: â‚¬5000

Your percentage is: 40%
His percentage is: 60%

What should happen now is that all expenses are paid by the percentage amount. If the mortgage is â‚¬1300, you will be paying 40% (â‚¬520) and he will be paying 60% (â‚¬780).

It's important that this is only done on expenses that contributes to the household. Mortgage, Food, Utilities, Petrol, Insurance etc.. etc..

Your cellphone contract is your expense, your clothes shopping is your expense. These are not added to the overall household expenses.

Yes, I think if the money isn't being pooled, a percentage system is the fairest. Otherwise, if it's 50/50 on expenses, each half of the couple has different disposable income and that just seems to put a cramp on what the couple can do together.

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Electric Sheep · 18-04-2017 05:24PM

Tanner Brief Gypsy wrote: »

In my opinion, the only fair way to handle expenses is to pay by percentage.

A contrived example:

Your gross salary is: â‚¬2000
His gross salary is: â‚¬3000
Combined: â‚¬5000

Your percentage is: 40%
His percentage is: 60%

What should happen now is that all expenses are paid by the percentage amount. If the mortgage is â‚¬1300, you will be paying 40% (â‚¬520) and he will be paying 60% (â‚¬780).

It's important that this is only done on expenses that contributes to the household. Mortgage, Food, Utilities, Petrol, Insurance etc.. etc..

Your cellphone contract is your expense, your clothes shopping is your expense. These are not added to the overall household expenses.

What about the other stuff the OP is paying for? Children's clothes and activities, Christmas, Birthdays, Holidays? Shouldn't these also come from the family pot? The kids have two parents who should both be contributing.

0ph0rce0 · 18-04-2017 05:25PM

Remind me not to go to the next after hours beers as by the sounds of it everyone would be on the waters.

juneg · 18-04-2017 05:25PM

Just another point here on the money.
I'll be charitable and say he spends five thousand in the pub each year on himself.
Does the op realise that he has to earn twice that to spend it ( minus your taxes obv )
He has to earn 10,000 to have 5,000 to spend on booze if you get me.

18-04-2017 05:27PM

Cyrus wrote: »

or you act like grown ups, realise you are married, pool everything together, pay all the bills, agree on an house hold budget, amount to save etc and split the remainder.

a marriage where one person has more disposable income than the other doesnt seem fair to me

I'm not saying the way the ops household finances are managed is ideal (everything should be shared 50/50) but there is nothing wrong with not pooling everything together, in fact I'd be personally quite against that and much prefer sharing out bills 50/50, shared food expenses 50/50 but no pooling and each manage our own salary and anything left over after bills is yours to spend/save as you please even if the amount left over is different for each person. Saying you have to pool money into one pot to "act like a grown up" is quite condescending.

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Well watching sport and gambling would be normal weekend activities even without drinking but you are correct what would be the point of spending a full day in the pub without drink? Its called an all day session because it involves lots of drink.

pilly · 18-04-2017 05:31PM

osarusan wrote: »

What does age or all day sessions and how people on here feel about them have to do with the OP though?

Nothing. This has turned into a discussion of Nox's ability to drink. :rolleyes:

ceadaoin. · 18-04-2017 05:33PM

Alma Weak Stabilizer wrote: »

I'm not saying the way the ops household finances are managed is ideal (everything should be shared 50/50) but there is nothing wrong with not pooling everything together, in fact I'd be personally quite against that and much prefer sharing out bills 50/50, shared food expenses 50/50 but no pooling and each manage our own salary and anything left over after bills is yours to spend/save as you please even if the amount left over is different for each person. Saying you have to pool money into one pot to "act like a grown up" is quite condescending.

That means you could have one partner who earns multiple times more than the other able to afford holidays, new clothes, meals and drinks out etc while the other has to spend all their salary on bills and is left with no disposable income. Doesn't seem fair in a marriage does it?

Cyrus · 18-04-2017 05:36PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

That means you could have one partner who earns multiple times more than the other able to afford holidays, new clothes, meals and drinks out etc while the other has to spend all their salary on bills and is left with no disposable income. Doesn't seem fair in a marriage does it?

exactly

Cyrus · 18-04-2017 05:38PM

Alma Weak Stabilizer wrote: »

I'm not saying the way the ops household finances are managed is ideal (everything should be shared 50/50) but there is nothing wrong with not pooling everything together, in fact I'd be personally quite against that and much prefer sharing out bills 50/50, shared food expenses 50/50 but no pooling and each manage our own salary and anything left over after bills is yours to spend/save as you please even if the amount left over is different for each person. Saying you have to pool money into one pot to "act like a grown up" is quite condescending.

its not, a marriage should be equal, if one person earns way more than the other and isnt sharing that with them its not a great foundation. Also, in a lot of cases if one person is earning more, the other will have to shoulder more responsibility re childcare etc to facilitate the other person focusing on their career.

18-04-2017 05:39PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

That means you could have one partner who earns multiple times more than the other able to afford holidays, new clothes, meals and drinks out etc while the other has to spend all their salary on bills and is left with no disposable income. Doesn't seem fair in a marriage does it?

There could be a little give and take with something like a holiday or maybe a greater contribution towards a car/house deposit from the higher earner due to higher savings but in general I think the salary you earn is yours. If the lower earner was single they would have to manage on the salary they have.

Also what if the higher earner has higher non-shared expenses due to their live style prior to marriage? Owning property, expensive car etc.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater · 18-04-2017 05:40PM

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I don't think anyone would enjoy that. I'd be up for murder if I had to spend the day sitting in a pub sober with a load of lads getting hammered and talking muck.

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Each to their own! Some people like to get wasted and are happy enough to sacrifice a feeling of wellbeing the next morning. Personally, I'm not fond of doing that unless I have nowhere to be the next day.

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Christ.........

ceadaoin. · 18-04-2017 05:41PM

Alma Weak Stabilizer wrote: »

There could be a little give and take with something like a holiday but in general I think the salary you earn is yours. If the lower earner was single they would have to manage on the salary they have.

Yes but they wouldn't be paying the bills for anyone other than themselves in that case so would presumably be spending less

One eyed Jack · 18-04-2017 05:42PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

That means you could have one partner who earns multiple times more than the other able to afford holidays, new clothes, meals and drinks out etc while the other has to spend all their salary on bills and is left with no disposable income. Doesn't seem fair in a marriage does it?

But ceadaoin what if it's actually what the people who are in the marriage want for themselves?

This is why I was saying earlier I don't get it, because the women I talk to actually want it this way, but then complain that they have to do all the stuff the OP for example says she has to do!

I'm thinking to myself "if it looks like a martyr, and walks like a martyr...", but I would never, ever, say that to them, as they appear to be happy in their situations with their circumstances overall!!

Wives... were you glad pubs weren't open today

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