Lock, Stock and Chitchat a Seacht

Nekarsulm · 21-03-2017 07:22PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Ah no, sure the teachers would start at the same time as well:pac:

Good luck running an 8am school start past the INTO and the TUI !

The man in red and black · 21-03-2017 07:25PM

whelan2 wrote: »

That would be totally confusing, would that mean the kids would be an hour early for school or an hour late?

In Kilkenny it used to be extra confusing! Always get a laugh at this article.

http://www.advertiser.ie/kilkenny/article/33627/caught-in-a-time-warp-the-battle-of-the-clocks

Buford T. Justice XIX · 21-03-2017 07:31PM

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Good luck running an 8am school start past the INTO and the TUI !

School will still start at 9.

Just when 9 actually happens will be at a different time:)

I said · 22-03-2017 10:14AM

It's snowing lads did any of ye know that

Lady Haywire · 22-03-2017 10:16AM

I said wrote: »

It's snowing lads did any of ye know that

Ah that's what it is! And there was me thinking I had very bad dandruff this morning.

I said · 22-03-2017 10:19AM

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Ah that's what it is! And there was me thinking I had very bad dandruff this morning.

Psoriasis?

Lady Haywire · 22-03-2017 10:25AM

I said wrote: »

Psoriasis?

ganmo · 22-03-2017 01:57PM

reggie and his mates are out walkin the hill today...nearly perfect whiteout conditions with snow and fog

Reggie. · 22-03-2017 07:10PM

ganmo wrote: »

reggie and his mates are out walkin the hill today...nearly perfect whiteout conditions with snow and fog

Jaysus it def wasn't me today anyways. In such conditions always trust your compass and not your eyes

Lady Haywire · 22-03-2017 07:14PM

I've an intriguing cow-heifer here at the moment. She was rake thin all winter, took the calf off her at 5months (December) to see if it would make a difference, was getting 2.5kg of calf nuts per day all winter as well.
When we were feeding the dry cow outside, we put her out with her for company so have had her outside for the last month or that. There's a bit of picking but not much, still getting maybe 1.5/2kg of nuts a day.
But the difference in her in phenomenal, she's fleshed over completely, even her hair has lost its dry/pale/brittle look and she's practically putting weight on by the day. Same thing happened her in the shed as a yearling, just went backwards altogether.

Would it be possible that she's not processing the silage correctly? She wasn't being bullied on the slats either. And she was done for rumen/liver fluke/worms twice; in summer & after she was in the shed a month or that.

patsy_mccabe · 22-03-2017 07:26PM

Is she a very timid heifer? Sometimes if they are getting bullied in a shed, they don't thrive at all.

Nekarsulm · 22-03-2017 07:26PM

Would she have been lacking some organic compound, that she can get when outside?
Was she able to get ivy off trees or something?
Just guessing here (as you may have spotted!)

Lady Haywire · 22-03-2017 07:29PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Is she a very timid heifer? Sometimes if they are getting bullied in a shed, they don't thrive at all.

Not particularly timid, not bossy either, just holds her own. Was only 3 others in the pen with her too so plenty of space.

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Would she have been lacking some organic compound, that she can get when outside?
Was she able to get ivy off trees or something?
Just guessing here (as you may have spotted!)

That's quite possible, though the cattle were getting that mineral powder on the silage all winter. She has been at ivy but since Doris knocked a couple of trees there's not much hunting for it. Food for thought there though. I was going to get her blooded but last time vet was out he had no blood tubes, no point calling him out to blood one animal!

ganmo · 22-03-2017 08:22PM

But the difference in her in phenomenal, she's fleshed over completely, even her hair has lost its dry/pale/brittle look and she's practically putting weight on by the day. Same thing happened her in the shed as a yearling, just went backwards altogether.

Did she loose any hair?
How were her feet?
The hair bit is making me think selenium or zinc.
Or the fact she's in the shed maybe vit D

pedigree 6 · 22-03-2017 08:23PM

Lady Haywire wrote: »

I've an intriguing cow-heifer here at the moment. She was rake thin all winter, took the calf off her at 5months (December) to see if it would make a difference, was getting 2.5kg of calf nuts per day all winter as well.
When we were feeding the dry cow outside, we put her out with her for company so have had her outside for the last month or that. There's a bit of picking but not much, still getting maybe 1.5/2kg of nuts a day.
But the difference in her in phenomenal, she's fleshed over completely, even her hair has lost its dry/pale/brittle look and she's practically putting weight on by the day. Same thing happened her in the shed as a yearling, just went backwards altogether.

Would it be possible that she's not processing the silage correctly? She wasn't being bullied on the slats either. And she was done for rumen/liver fluke/worms twice; in summer & after she was in the shed a month or that.

I wonder did she fracture or sprain a joint when she was a calf or yearling and the concrete brings back the aggrevation.
I know when I was thirteen I grabbed a whitehead bull calf by the back leg and sprained my wrist. Not broken but sprained. It still pains me sometimes if I twist it the wrong way or put a lot of pressure on it. If it was a break it would have mended properly by now but a sprain can come back to haunt you in the future.

Or else she could just be a bit of a loner cow who likes her own company.
We had one of them here who would stand on her own and only eat at night when the other cows were away from the feeding barrier.
Even in the field when bringing in the cows for milking she wouldn't come in with the herd and you would have to go and get her.

Lady Haywire · 22-03-2017 10:36PM

ganmo wrote: »

Did she loose any hair?
How were her feet?
The hair bit is making me think selenium or zinc.
Or the fact she's in the shed maybe vit D

No, lost no hair at all, just very dry looking, she's a ped limo but is very pale in herself. She got a multivit there in November and we tried her with copper before as well. Feet are 100%, better than my own I'd say. She had a scour that wouldn't clear up back when she first went into the shed, which is why I'm thinking it's the silage. It only cleared up when we put all the cows onto haylage.

pedigree 6 wrote: »

I wonder did she fracture or sprain a joint when she was a calf or yearling and the concrete brings back the aggrevation.
I know when I was thirteen I grabbed a whitehead bull calf by the back leg and sprained my wrist. Not broken but sprained. It still pains me sometimes if I twist it the wrong way or put a lot of pressure on it. If it was a break it would have mended properly by now but a sprain can come back to haunt you in the future.

Or else she could just be a bit of a loner cow who likes her own company.
We had one of them here who would stand on her own and only eat at night when the other cows were away from the feeding barrier.
Even in the field when bringing in the cows for milking she wouldn't come in with the herd and you would have to go and get her.

Not a single injury that I can think of, she was a perfect looking animal until she was put into the shed for her first winter, she just went backwards in herself. Then went out for two months and she bloomed up again.
Would a dung sample shed any light on it I wonder?

pedigree 6 · 22-03-2017 10:37PM

I wonder has anyone here actually looked at the CSO website?
Lots of good info.

http://www.cso.ie/multiquicktables/quickTables.aspx?id=ajm05

http://www.cso.ie/multiquicktables/quickTables.aspx?id=aca01_3

pedigree 6 · 22-03-2017 11:18PM

Lady Haywire wrote: »

No, lost no hair at all, just very dry looking, she's a ped limo but is very pale in herself. She got a multivit there in November and we tried her with copper before as well. Feet are 100%, better than my own I'd say. She had a scour that wouldn't clear up back when she first went into the shed, which is why I'm thinking it's the silage. It only cleared up when we put all the cows onto haylage.

Not a single injury that I can think of, she was a perfect looking animal until she was put into the shed for her first winter, she just went backwards in herself. Then went out for two months and she bloomed up again.
Would a dung sample shed any light on it I wonder?

Probably a blood sample would be more accurate.
But then what to test for?

Anyway here's a handy link.
http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/scourall.htm

Lady Haywire · 22-03-2017 11:24PM

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Probably a blood sample would be more accurate.
But then what to test for?

Anyway here's a handy link.
http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/scourall.htm

Test for everything :pac: If she's still in the field next to the crush when we have a vet out next I'll make sure to tell him to bring sample tubes for blood.

I dunno tbh, she's got everything I can think of, though a dose of Growvite or similar wouldn't hurt I reckon. It's just so strange to see the complete change in her as soon as she went out of the shed. I suppose if her gut was off going into the shed, we started them off on wet silage which wouldn't have helped her.

ganmo · 22-03-2017 11:25PM

pedigree 6 wrote: »

I wonder has anyone here actually looked at the CSO website?
Lots of good info.

http://www.cso.ie/multiquicktables/quickTables.aspx?id=aca01_3

What happened in 2011 that gave the bump in payments across most regions?

charolais0153 · 22-03-2017 11:52PM

ganmo wrote: »

What happened in 2011 that gave the bump in payments across most regions?

Enda of course

greysides · 23-03-2017 12:24AM

Lady Haywire wrote: »

I've an intriguing cow-heifer here at the moment. She was rake thin all winter, took the calf off her at 5months (December) to see if it would make a difference, was getting 2.5kg of calf nuts per day all winter as well.
When we were feeding the dry cow outside, we put her out with her for company so have had her outside for the last month or that. There's a bit of picking but not much, still getting maybe 1.5/2kg of nuts a day.
But the difference in her in phenomenal, she's fleshed over completely, even her hair has lost its dry/pale/brittle look and she's practically putting weight on by the day. Same thing happened her in the shed as a yearling, just went backwards altogether.

Would it be possible that she's not processing the silage correctly? She wasn't being bullied on the slats either. And she was done for rumen/liver fluke/worms twice; in summer & after she was in the shed a month or that.

Vitamin A deficiency? ......... Hardly......

Lady Haywire · 23-03-2017 12:35AM

greysides wrote: »

Vitamin A deficiency? ......... Hardly......

Doesn't sound like it, bar the rough coat. And I wouldn't have a clue how she'd get it and not the others in the pen. Pretty sure the nuts she was/is on has a whole host of added vit/minerals too.

_Brian · 23-03-2017 09:02AM

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Doesn't sound like it, bar the rough coat. And I wouldn't have a clue how she'd get it and not the others in the pen. Pretty sure the nuts she was/is on has a whole host of added vit/minerals too.

Sore feet ??
We had a heifer with bad feet and she wasted away on the slats and returned to health on grass. Hoof man said it was a genetic deficiency

Reggie. · 23-03-2017 10:09AM

Guess the second tractor may have to wait.....:(

Looks like a new addition to the workforce is in production

Parishlad · 23-03-2017 10:11AM

Reggie. wrote: »

Guess the second tractor may have to wait.....:(

Looks like a new addition to the workforce is in production

If I decipher that correctly I think congratulations are in order!! :pac:

Reggie. · 23-03-2017 10:12AM

Parishlad wrote: »

If I decipher that correctly I think congratulations are in order!! :pac:

I never make things easy

Shannon757 · 23-03-2017 10:19AM

Reggie. wrote: »

Guess the second tractor may have to wait.....:(

Looks like a new addition to the workforce is in production

A mini Reggie?

Reggie. · 23-03-2017 10:20AM

Shannon757 wrote: »

A mini Reggie?

Another mini

Shannon757 · 23-03-2017 10:21AM

Reggie. wrote: »

Another mini

Congratulations

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