Marvel Neflix Thread

Haven't watched yet but some of the negatives the critics came up with sounded either PC or subjective.....but it's easy to be subjective as we all know.

A particular beef I had with the critics is that they skewered the casting of Danny Rand as a white man even though Rand was a white man in the comics if I'm not mistaken?

Episode 4 was pretty great!

I gotta say, the reviews really did have me worried. So far though, each episode has been better than the last.

I've watched the first 4 and am liking it well enough. The
The acting is very good. Finn Jones is doing a good enough job. He falls flat sometimes on certain deliveries but all things considered he's got a likeable quality with a slightly off kilter manner going on. The reviews accusing him of playing it like a pretentious spoilt brat were certainly not justified for me.

Finished. Genuinely enjoyed this more than Luke Cage, which I loved. Fantastic stuff!

I'm the opposite it seems in that I enjoyed the season early on only to get a bit restless towards the end.

The negatives first:

They tried to pack a lot into those final episodes and it didn't quite work for me. I also bought Rand as a character more early on than I did towards the end. Jones just wasn't quite capable of pulling off Rand's unbridled fury as the truth dawned on him but again the writing/direction hampered him.

The finale was also weak both in resolving Rand's season 1 arc in a satisfying manner (it really is frustrating that Ward and Wing received a more satisfying resolution on this score than the main man) and also as a stepping stone to The Defenders. I loved every bit of these Netflix shows up until now but the one thing that irked me about all of them is the almost intentional frustration of the natural story progression. It just seems either lazy or cheap to me that it's left to Claire Temple and Hogarth to a lesser extent to be the glue between the characters (at least the latter gets to interact with the heroes in different ways, the former has more or less served the same purpose across all shows as their best bud/love interest). There's no feasible reason why at least Rand wouldn't have crossed paths with Murdoch in Iron Fist once the hand started to act the bollox and Claire knew how dangerous it was going to be.

This is the first time that the budget became an actual problem between the lack of Fist time and lack of proper flashbacks to build up Rand's back story properly.

There are positives of course:

A better written Rand will fit nicely I think alongside the other Defenders. I wouldn't mind seeing the bloke pack a bit of weight on though or at the very least change his dress sense. :P

The Hand have been well placed in the story now.

I actually enjoyed the action and not sure what some people expected (I think it's one of those things where the deeper you poke someone's criticism the more it will fall apart). Rand had it much easier than Murdoch did in his beat downs but logically that's fine. Murdoch is trained but not to the level of Rand.

Wing and Ward were really great and I actually enjoyed Wenham's performance.

All in all a perfectly decent to good entry but probably not the one we would have wanted in the run up to The Defenders.

brianregan09 wrote: »

I'd spoiler tag everthing for at a week anyway

This seems fair; we'll go with this.

brianregan09 wrote: »

Iron Fist is definitely one of those characters who'll work so much better with other hero's as proved in even this little snippet of the Defenders I enjoyed his series but didn't enjoy him more the characters around him

Agreed. I'm hoping Luke Cage will give him guidance and he'll come out of The Defenders as a much stronger, more world-wise character and that will lead on to a stronger arc for Iron Fist season 2.

Season 2 of Iron Fist officially announced at Comic Con. also, season 3 of Daredevil (can't remember if that was previously made official).