Dublin GAA Discussion Thread MOD WARNING POST #2944

Bonniedog wrote: »

Does points difference come into play? If Dublin were conceivably to beat you boys by three points and Waterford lose to Clare by 3/4 then we'd be ahead of them.

Anyway, going to 1B not be a disaster, and I really thought this team would have been hammered in every game so happy enough. Might be better if Cunningham maintained fate in them rather than throw in the Cuala players, which could be mixed blessing no matter what happens on Paddys Day as they will be played out one way or the other you would think, for a while.

Points difference only matters if 3 or more teams are level. Otherwise, it's straight H2H

Topcat32 wrote: »

There is a relegation playoff again this year.

Are you sure? The last official word I heard from Croke Park was no relegation playoff.

Bonniedog wrote: »

So play off no matter what. Still, next game will matter, certainly to stripey lads as a win makes them safe if Waterford lose to Clare. Glad it is in Parnell rather than as a warm up for the football. Should be good atmosphere and game.

Its not a play off no matter what for Dublin. If you win, Cork lose and Clare and Waterford dont draw that will be 3 teams on 4 points and this is where points difference will be applied. Dublin can still make the quarter finals

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

this has been debated alot this year there is some confusion after a press release earlier in the year , but the gaa insist there is a relegation play/off for 1A even though there is no date fixed on the master fixture list :rolleyes:

Where have they said this?

Kavrocks wrote: »

Are you sure? The last official word I heard from Croke Park was no relegation playoff.

Where did you ever hear this 'official' word? The play-off between 5th and 6th will take place on 2 April as per the attached master fixture list (page 5).

Bambi wrote: »

I think Dublin need to be competitive in 1A above all else, right now they're not.

1B with Galway not making it into 1A this year would not be good, they will have a major bee in their bonnet next year

Don't think you can say they have not been competitive. other than the hiding by Tipp.

I was ultra pessimist at start of year. Thought they'd be hammered out the gate every game. They haven't. This is basically not even a full strength 21s team with a few older fellas. They are getting invaluable experience and have not made a show of themselves.

No great ambitions for the Summer but with Treacys and Shuttes back they be serious enough team.

Bambi wrote: »

It drives me up the wall, how often this year have we seen a dublin player leave the ball behind him when trying to lift it on the move. Or losing ball in a ruck because they cannot get it to hand. Even under no pressure lads are having to make two-three attempts. Both teams are playing on the same pitch so that's no excuse. Maybe that's why Cunningham tried the short hand passing game last year

we go down to 1b this year there's no guarantee we'll get back up next year. At least Cunningham will be gone although he's not the only cause of our recent woes

I just can't wrap my head around it. I see the same players having no difficulty doing it at club level yet they look like they're using shovels out there when wearing blue. Happened a good few times today, one lad (McMarrow i think??) took 3 attempts to lift with nobody anywhere near him and completely killed our attack.

I think it may take us at least 2 seasons to get back up. There's good teams down there that are probably more at our level than where we are now. Obviously I'd much rather we stayed up but being completely honest I think most teams in 1a would bate us out the gate if they took it seriously. Tipp, Waterford, Cats are miles ahead of us, only Cork are at our level.

JRant wrote: »

He'll be gone at the end of this season, no question.

If we had a few of the exiled players to help the younger lads along I'd be far more confident about our future. Add Sutcliffe and Kelly to the Cuala lads with some of the excellent youngsters coming through and we could be challenging for a leinster title.

Anyone care to shed some light on the falling out between Cunningham and the two lads?

Joekers wrote: »

Anyone care to shed some light on the falling out between Cunningham and the two lads?

More than just the two of them unfortunately. Seems largely personal.

Fact that Rushie is hurling out of his skin while Sutchcliffe has basically slagged them off on telly persuades me which side has the best interests of Dublin hurling at heart.

Not saying GC is perfect. He is apparently not great dealing with individuals, but he is making best of a difficult situation. And more importantly making decisions that will benefit Dublin after he has departed.

DoctaDee wrote:

It doesn't be long coming around again - draw for 1st round of SFC

You forgot Eoghan Ruadh again Doc.

I demand that you edit your post!!! Or we are heading to the DR again !

JRant wrote: »

Hadn't heard Sutcliffe slagging off the team. I know Keaney was very critical of them and got a bit of criticism himself over it alright.

It think GC made a rod for his own back with a lot of whats happened, not saying it's all his own fault mind. He seemed to fall out with a number of individuals and to me that points to a poor management style above all else.

Suthcliffe was on TV3 last year as panellist and seemed to be laughing at them. Unforgiveable really.

Cunningham does appear to be pretty distant from the players compared to the old regime, and I've heard he was same with other teams he was with. There is no doubting however that he is shrewd hurling man - his record proves that - and he has shown ability to change things around with Dublin to suit what he has at his disposal.


I can't see him lasting beyond the Summer but I certainly wouldn't be as critical of him as some are.

There is also the fact that when they go looking for someone new, assuming they do, that the perception of a disgruntled player base will put a lot of people off. I've heard that Daly might be offered it again but can't see that to be honest. Clare job will be up for grabs again this year I'd imagine.

Bonniedog wrote: »

Suthcliffe was on TV3 last year as panellist and seemed to be laughing at them. Unforgiveable really.

Cunningham does appear to be pretty distant from the players compared to the old regime, and I've heard he was same with other teams he was with. There is no doubting however that he is shrewd hurling man - his record proves that - and he has shown ability to change things around with Dublin to suit what he has at his disposal.


I can't see him lasting beyond the Summer but I certainly wouldn't be as critical of him as some are.

There is also the fact that when they go looking for someone new, assuming they do, that the perception of a disgruntled player base will put a lot of people off. I've heard that Daly might be offered it again but can't see that to be honest. Clare job will be up for grabs again this year I'd imagine.

Fair enough, like I hadn't seen that but sounds like poor form and surprising as well if I'm being honest.

He may be a shrewd hurling man but his tactics have lead to some heavy and inexcusable defeats during his tenure. I've been critical of him, not because I don't like him but because I want to see us be competitive. The short hand passing game was just crazy, especially considering how is just wasn't working. We seem to be more direct this tear but a lot of the ball into the forwards is aimless stuff. Nobody seems to have the composure to lift their heads and pick a pass.

On a more uplifting note Rushie is playing as well as ever, an absolute beast. Seems to be marshalling the younger lads around him really well. Young Eoin has been terrific as well. A lot more positives this year than the previous 2 combined but some basic errors need to worked on. We really need to be quicker at getting ball to hand.