Why is there no Roads or buildings named after Éamon de Valera

Nekarsulm · 10-03-2017 04:10PM

Because at tte time, agriculture was a major industry and employer.
Dev's "Economic War" with Britain ushered in a decade of stagnation and hardship for all rural people. His idea of starving the Brits by not exporting our agri produce only hurt ourselves.

Nobody wanted to be reminded of that...

Harry Palmr · 10-03-2017 04:10PM

I'm struck by the nature of places that are named after patriots, they nearly always seem to be impoverished and run-down. Though it may just be a case of inner-city developments that were once perfectly fine having been left behind by suburbs in one direction and gentrification of certain urban sweet spots in the other.

whisky_galore · 10-03-2017 04:16PM

De Valera Street, Youghal.

Quite what connection he had to Youghal eludes me.

whisky_galore · 10-03-2017 04:26PM

The_Valeyard wrote: »

I think history currently judges him quite harshly, for obvious reasons. But it would be interesting to see in another 100years, how he is regarded.

People remember the elderly blind occupant of the Arus or the best buddy of Archbishop McQuaid or associate him with the pretty bleak, uninspired period from the 30's through to the 1950's. TBF even when young he had the look of a charisma-less gangly schoolmaster. I think the Michael Collins movie (which contained a good dollop of fiction of course) did a good bit of damage to his image, esp. in the minds of people who were never around while he was alive.

We never got to see what Collins was like in his old age, so obvs. like James Dean he'll always be remembered as the dashing, good looking young rebel.

Mint Sauce · 10-03-2017 04:54PM

Also a road named after him in...

India!

Victor · 10-03-2017 05:12PM

Places in Ireland with "Valera" in the name: http://url.ie/11ph3

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I'm struck by the nature of places that are named after patriots, they nearly always seem to be impoverished and run-down. Though it may just be a case of inner-city developments that were once perfectly fine having been left behind by suburbs in one direction and gentrification of certain urban sweet spots in the other.

All to often, such names were used in areas with council housing.

CINCLANTFLT · 10-03-2017 05:28PM

You'd like to think he thought about this as he settled the cross hairs on poor Michael Collins near Beal ma Blath on a late August day... but then the evil rose up in him and whispered "I don't care about no stinkin' roads being named after me!"... then a shot rang out, a patriot fell and a tall traitor slunk off into a field, with a grin on his long hungry looking face...

Red Kev · 10-03-2017 05:30PM

Muff in Donegal is named after he, because he sounds like a bit of a cnut.

Green Mile · 10-03-2017 05:48PM

Didn’t Éamon de Valera shoot the potato and fcuk’d the whole country up?

Zebra3 · 10-03-2017 06:22PM

Dev was a thief who appropriately enough founded Fianna Fáil the party of crooks. See Irish Press scam.

He also facilitated the torture and enslavement of innocent Irish people by the Roman church. See other thread on here.

Why the hell would anyone name anything after a toerag like that????

Victor · 10-03-2017 06:57PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Dev was a thief who appropriately enough founded Fianna Fáil the party of crooks. See Irish Press scam.

He also facilitated the torture and enslavement of innocent Irish people by the Roman church. See other thread on here.

Why the hell would anyone name anything after a toerag like that????

We could name a sewage works after him, but that might be inappropriate this week.

ToddyDoody · 10-03-2017 07:38PM

I think a chipper in the midlands named a burger after him???

kneemos · 10-03-2017 08:05PM

Cos he ****ed us over when he handed the country on a plate to the church.

colm_mcm · 10-03-2017 11:09PM

There's a library named after him in Ennis.

DanielODonnell · 10-03-2017 11:26PM

The Unionists complain about places being named after hunger strikers yet London has a statue of Oliver Cromwell in the city centre

threeball · 10-03-2017 11:29PM

corner of hells wrote: »

A bridge and road that stretches from Donegal to Cork ? Feck off the pair of yis.

Wasn't called the long fella for nothing

threeball · 10-03-2017 11:34PM

Noddyholder wrote: »

Holy God yer right there

The planting and dedication of the forest was arranged by the Dublin Jewish community, in recognition of De Valera's consistent support for Ireland's Jews.[1]

The Irish Constitution of 1937, the drafting of which was personally supervised by De Valera the writing of the Constitution specifically gave constitutional protection to Jews. This was considered to be a necessary component to the constitution by Éamon de Valera because of the treatment of Jews elsewhere in Europe at the time.[2]

In 1948 De Valera overruled the Department of Justice when it barred one hundred and fifty refugee Jewish children from travelling to Ireland as refugees.[3]

https://www.google.es/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjai_SYmszSAhVG0hoKHehTBzQQFggyMAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F%25C3%2589amon_de_Valera_Forest&usg=AFQjCNELGj4d47Mseq0UAWIA5FVH4nZ8pg

Very generous of them to overlook him sending his condolences upon Hitlers death.

whisky_galore · 10-03-2017 11:35PM

kneemos wrote: »

Cos he ****ed us over when he handed the country on a plate to the church.

And you think any other political party would have acted differently?

Get real. The Irish were far too conservative to support any party not giving due deference to Mother Church.

Besides handing over control of schools and institutions to religious suited everyone in the newly independent Ireland...except those that got thrown into them...by their own people in many cases.

maryishere · 11-03-2017 02:55AM

JupiterKid wrote: »

Also, Dev was a very divisive figure. While he was very popular in the early State, he was also very unpopular with others.

He was unpopular with some people all right, he had little sympathy for the IRA and actually killed ( hung ) some IRA in Irish jail and a few more died on hunger strike in Irish jail.

ted1 · 11-03-2017 03:00AM

Londonderry is called after him.

It's also the only word in the English language which has 6 silent letters at the start

11-03-2017 03:15AM

kneemos wrote: »

Cos he ****ed us over when he handed the country on a plate to the church.

Great to see there were now no RCC run schools, homes, hospitals or anything else in the glory days of British colonial rule (given to the RCC by the British in exchange for the RCC condemning Irish republicans and ramming the coloniser's language and culture down the throats of the backward natives). It was, it now appears, Dev who first "handed them on a plate" to the RCC in 1932.

11-03-2017 03:22AM

threeball wrote: »

Very generous of them to overlook him sending his condolences upon Hitlers death.

Not as generous as they are to overlook 6 years of Britain's collaboration with Nazi Germany (1933-1939), a collaboration which continued after the Nuremberg Laws, Kristalnacht and much else and is known in Britain by the euphemism "appeasement". But then again in Britain in the 1930s the Nazis were the good guys, unlike the godless communists.

Esel · 11-03-2017 04:28AM

Arghus wrote: »

I guess if you get to run the place for years you don't need the token gesture of having a few roundabouts named,after you.

How about we rename the U-turn?

"I saw the checkpoint ahead and did a quick Dev."

Esel · 11-03-2017 04:34AM

maryishere wrote: »

He was unpopular with some people all right, he had little sympathy for the IRA and actually killed ( hung ) some IRA in Irish jail and a few more died on hunger strike in Irish jail.

Yeah, he pulled a Dev on them.

11-03-2017 04:37AM

JupiterKid wrote: »

This has been discussed on boards before and it seems that the main reason was Dev's longevity. He died in 1975 aged 92 and by then the fashion for naming places and streets after patriots had largely ended.

Yep, that's pretty much it.

In much the same way, I suspect O'Connell got a few more main streets than most. He died at the right time, long before the wave of replacing English names with those relevant to Ireland...

Annasopra · 11-03-2017 05:26PM

There is a good few

De Valera Street Youghal
De Valera Park Sligo
De Valera Place Dublin
De Valera Museum limerick
De Valera Library Clare
De Valera Park - Meath, Limerick

Theres also roads in India, Ohio and South Africa

Why is there no Roads or buildings named after Éamon de Valera

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