Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

joeysoap · 19-02-2017 01:33AM

Deleted User wrote: »

............ Aer Lingus's prices tend to be higher than needed especially with their fuel surcharge still being applied and adding well over €120 to every one of their fares.

Aer Lingus apply a fuel surcharge? Seriously?

I though the fares were supposed to be transparent, if AL apply an arbitrary fuel surcharge why doesn't somebody challenge that ? Do the American carriers do the same? If a certain MOL did this it would be all over the news (and probably some EU commission)

I flew AL return to Tenerife last Easter for a very fair price. I wouldn't have thought Tenerife was that much shorter than the east coast of USA. (321 's both flights, both full)

Jamie2k9 · 19-02-2017 01:57AM

joeysoap wrote: »

Aer Lingus apply a fuel surcharge? Seriously?

I though the fares were supposed to be transparent, if AL apply an arbitrary fuel surcharge why doesn't somebody challenge that ? Do the American carriers do the same? If a certain MOL did this it would be all over the news (and probably some EU commission)

I flew AL return to Tenerife last Easter for a very fair price. I wouldn't have thought Tenerife was that much shorter than the east coast of USA. (321 's both flights, both full)

There is no challenge as if they remove the fuel sur charge it will just go onto the base fare and customers cannot complain. It's between 65-85 currently which has been cut over recent years.

Example (Economy Class):
LAX/SFO - 2008 (110), 2015 (95), 2016 to date (85)
ORD/MIA/MCO - 2008 (85), 2015 to date (75)
JFK/EWR/BOS/BDY/IAD/YYZ - 2008 (75), 2015 (75), 2016 to date (65)

EI have been in the news in recent years over it but all charges are fully available to view at time of booking and yes most US airlines do.

19-02-2017 09:41AM

JCX BXC wrote: »

No harm in a bit of healthy competition, the question is whether it is healthy or not. There is still big question marks over Norwegians contracts, wages, and in general business practises that I haven't seen answered yet. I can't see why these aren't being answered publicly , assuming that their practises are sound.

Your interpretation of healthy is completely different to Joe and Josephine blogs sitting down the back of the plane. Most don't really know or care what contracts the crews are on, they only care about what impacts them directly and most of the time that's only price.

While you're worrying about contracts what about EI's CC contracts or FR's pitiful contracts for both CC and pilots. None of which have been sorted out at any point, has Joe or Josephine at any point cared about these contracts other than when they striked and interfered with their flights ?

JCX BXC · 19-02-2017 12:08PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Your interpretation of healthy is completely different to Joe and Josephine blogs sitting down the back of the plane. Most don't really know or care what contracts the crews are on, they only care about what impacts them directly and most of the time that's only price.

While you're worrying about contracts what about EI's CC contracts or FR's pitiful contracts for both CC and pilots. None of which have been sorted out at any point, has Joe or Josephine at any point cared about these contracts other than when they striked and interfered with their flights ?

I'm not expecting Aer Lingus and Norwegian to have the same contracts, it's the same regulation as I've said that should apply. If it does, fair enough, but there is big unanswered questions here. Even with the same regulation, Aer Lingus will likely have more lucrative contracts which is perfectly fine.

Also worth mentioning, Joe and Josephine will not waste any time complaining on Facebook when suddenly there's no longer a plane to take them to their destination.

midfield dynamo · 24-02-2017 12:14PM

Isn't today the day that Willie was to announce the new A320/1 for TA ops?

alancostello · 24-02-2017 12:28PM

midfield dynamo wrote: »

Isn't today the day that Willie was to announce the new A320/1 for TA ops?

A321LR, they announced their financial results today, and said that the A321LR is being pursued across the IAG group, no specific EI wording from what I can see.

kevinandrew · 24-02-2017 07:41PM

IAG said today they were looking at leasing options for the A321neoLR for all the group airlines and not just Aer Lingus.

I hope Aer Lingus doesn't get left behind now that the list of IAG carriers requiring the A321LR has grown considerably! They may be the smallest in the group but they have a proven case for them unlike the other carriers.

Locker10a · 26-02-2017 07:09PM

kevinandrew wrote: »

IAG said today they were looking at leasing options for the A321neoLR for all the group airlines and not just Aer Lingus.

I hope Aer Lingus doesn't get left behind now that the list of IAG carriers requiring the A321LR has grown considerably! They may be the smallest in the group but they have a proven case for them unlike the other carriers.

I think IAG are keen on EI, in recent days they have had a lot of praise on EI's performance and potential and so I think they won't be forgotten.

Separately has there been and update or development re: EI summer fleet, a few weeks ago SSJs from Cityjet were rumoured as a summer capacity boost, is this no longer happening ?

alancostello · 26-02-2017 10:21PM

Locker10a wrote: »

I think IAG are keen on EI, in recent days they have had a lot of praise on EI's performance and potential and so I think they won't be forgotten.

Separately has there been and update or development re: EI summer fleet, a few weeks ago SSJs from Cityjet were rumoured as a summer capacity boost, is this no longer happening ?

Well there are three SSJs going to Brussels Airlines for the summer and they only have three in the fleet currently, so unless they're planning on operating with significantly reduced capacity I'd say any capacity for EI will come from elsewhere.

HTCOne · 26-02-2017 10:40PM

alancostello wrote: »

Well there are three SSJs going to Brussels Airlines for the summer and they only have three in the fleet currently, so unless they're planning on operating with significantly reduced capacity I'd say any capacity for EI will come from elsewhere.

Did I read somewhere they were doing work for Flybe at some stage too?

alancostello · 26-02-2017 10:41PM

HTCOne wrote: »

Did I read somewhere they were doing work for Flybe at some stage too?

Haven't heard anything? Stobart do operate for FlyBe though

kevinandrew · 27-02-2017 12:16PM

HTCOne wrote: »

alancostello wrote: »

Well there are three SSJs going to Brussels Airlines for the summer and they only have three in the fleet currently, so unless they're planning on operating with significantly reduced capacity I'd say any capacity for EI will come from elsewhere.

Did I read somewhere they were doing work for Flybe at some stage too?

It was Bmi Regional, they'll be using two SSJ's this summer so I doubt Aer Lingus will be getting them, at least not this summer.

bikeman1 · 01-03-2017 12:45PM

Hi guys,

Any update on the A330 working to LHR this summer that was mooted earlier in the year? What are the likely flights?

Locker10a · 01-03-2017 01:23PM

bikeman1 wrote: »

Hi guys,

Any update on the A330 working to LHR this summer that was mooted earlier in the year? What are the likely flights?

I've not heard anything about this recently, but I reacall it being a morning rotation that was mentioned

Jamie2k9 · 01-03-2017 01:31PM

Very unlikely to happen this year anyway.

Chances are WX Ops also not happening.

Locker10a · 01-03-2017 02:54PM

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Very unlikely to happen this year anyway.

Chances are WX Ops also not happening.

I suspect that seen as all was gone quiet!
Last year EI used BA E190s for additional capacity, do they plan anything similar this summer now or will they just have to stick with what they have in the way of 320s?

Captain_Crash · 01-03-2017 02:57PM

Locker10a wrote: »

Last year EI used BA E190s for additional capacity, do they plan anything similar this summer

I believe BA will be operating DUB-IBZ for the summer using those frames.

kevinandrew · 02-03-2017 10:49PM

VQ-BAZ, the ex-Aeroflot A320 scheduled to join the Aer Lingus fleet shortly has been painted and named St. Maeve, it will be re-registered EI-GAL before entering service.

https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8523436

The first window appears to be plugged, not sure if that indicates the cabin layout being a little different.

kub · 02-03-2017 11:28PM

kevinandrew wrote: »

VQ-BAZ, the ex-Aeroflot A320 scheduled to join the Aer Lingus fleet shortly has been painted and named St. Maeve, it will be re-registered EI-GAL before entering service.

https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8523436

The first window appears to be plugged, not sure if that indicates the cabin layout being a little different.

Is the other Aeroflot behind the newly painted one, the other one for EI?

joeysoap · 02-03-2017 11:48PM

kevinandrew wrote: »

VQ-BAZ, the ex-Aeroflot A320 scheduled to join the Aer Lingus fleet shortly has been painted and named St. Maeve, it will be re-registered EI-GAL before entering service.

https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8523436

The first window appears to be plugged, not sure if that indicates the cabin layout being a little different.

https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8059244

Plugged in this photo too, just harder to spot.

Locker10a · 03-03-2017 01:38AM

Be interesting to see what cabin it has, I assume anything joining the fleet longer term will have the standard 174Y anything less would cause complexity.
I wonder if they will go down the road of the most standard IAG cabin with those recaro seats or the standard EI leather ones

kevinandrew · 03-03-2017 03:05AM

kub wrote: »

kevinandrew wrote: »

VQ-BAZ, the ex-Aeroflot A320 scheduled to join the Aer Lingus fleet shortly has been painted and named St. Maeve, it will be re-registered EI-GAL before entering service.

https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8523436

The first window appears to be plugged, not sure if that indicates the cabin layout being a little different.

Is the other Aeroflot behind the newly painted one, the other one for EI?

Nope. That's VQ-BBB and is due to enter service with Ural Airlines later this year.

steokeogh · 05-03-2017 01:13AM

Can anybody tell me what plane is scheduled to do the Dublin to Orlando on 7th March?? Also what planes have the updated IFE systems ?

tennis12 · 05-03-2017 10:59AM

steokeogh wrote: »

Can anybody tell me what plane is scheduled to do the Dublin to Orlando on 7th March?? Also what planes have the updated IFE systems ?

Its due to be EI-EAV

EI-FNG/EI-FNH have the new IFE.

steokeogh · 05-03-2017 11:31AM

tennis12 wrote: »

steokeogh wrote: »

Can anybody tell me what plane is scheduled to do the Dublin to Orlando on 7th March?? Also what planes have the updated IFE systems ?

Its due to be EI-EAV

EI-FNG/EI-FNH have the new IFE.

Thanks for the info.

Was there any of the older aircraft upgraded to the new ife systems. Other then the b757s.

Cloudio9 · 05-03-2017 12:18PM

Anyone know which aircraft is EI-105 on March 9th ? thanks.

Simon Gruber Says · 06-03-2017 01:08PM

steokeogh wrote: »

Thanks for the info.

Was there any of the older aircraft upgraded to the new ife systems. Other then the b757s.

Was on EAV last week. Old system still. Someone on this thread said there doesn't seem to be any plans to upgrade the older 330's with the new IFE.

Having used both, the old one really is terribly slow. My one kept crashing during the flight. I figured out that holding down the power button on the screen for about a minute will reboot it.

Of interest also is that when rebooting, you can see that the software it uses dates from 2004. Explains why its so slow.

Noxegon · 06-03-2017 02:35PM

The fact that the software is ten years old has no bearing whatsoever on its performance. It's the hardware that you need to blame for that

duskyjoe · 06-03-2017 03:40PM

7 A321 LR's announced 2019/20 delivery I hear.

Nibs05 · 06-03-2017 03:41PM

International Airlines Group (IAG) is acquiring seven Airbus 321neo LR for Aer Lingus’ longhaul fleet.

The leased aircraft will be delivered in 2019 and 2020 and will be used mainly to replace existing Aer Lingus longhaul aircraft.

Willie Walsh, IAG’s chief executive, said: “The introduction of these aircraft on Aer Lingus’ transatlantic network will enable it to operate more frequent flights on routes between Dublin and the US East Coast. This will provide additional flexibility for connecting passengers and will strengthen Dublin as Aer Lingus’ transatlantic hub.”

The A321neo LR will be the most cost efficient long-range narrowbody aircraft and will be fitted with a total of 186 seats in Business and Economy cabins. This modern, fuel efficient aircraft will also bring environmental benefits to the airline.

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