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Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    Can someone remind me of the price of Wii Play bundled with the Wiimote back in the day?

    My memory is telling me that the bundle cost less than a Wiimote by itself so you were saving money there and effectively getting a free game. My memory has been faulty before.

    Would be nice if the Snipperclips bundle was less than the 89.99euro price touted for a set of Neon Joy-cons by Smyths.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,120 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    I think it was slightly higher, but nothing significant. Few euro perhaps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,485 ✭✭✭✭Banjo


    Not at launch it didn't , I don't think, it was around €50ish but if you were late to the party there were times when you could pick up WiiPlay for 20 quid or so and trade the game in for a tenner against another copy of the bundle if you were willing to cross the road a few times :D

    Argos UK have Snipperclips listed at £60, and given that it's physical release in Europe is as a digital download with JoyCons that has to be a good thing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,820 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    It was around €50 I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    Yeah, 50-55euro is what I remember with most games selling for a bit more.

    Was going to space out my purchase of a second set of Joycons until Mario Kart came out but if the figures add up on Snipperclips, I'd take the plunge. Just need to look up Snipperclips some more as I've only gave it a cursory 'looks fun' glance before now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭druss


    Hmm. Shop I was using in Belgium have updated their three joy-con prices now. €79 for neon set or the grey set. €99 for neon Snipperclips.

    So not a saving at all, bar the fact that I can get it without VAT, so €64ish without Snipperclips or €79ish with.

    I had a grey set on pre-order, to go with my neon Switch. Decisions, decisions.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 54,114 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I think the snipperclips bundle isn't out until the week after launch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭safetyboy


    I'm still on the fence about switchmas ... arggghh I preordered the wii and was mighty impressed when i got it home but waited a year for the WiiU and all I play is splatoon. Reworking my way through ZOoT on the 3ds at the moment too, my birthday is April can I use that as an excuse for a switch, have I the time for BoTW. aghhhh temptations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,559 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Don't forget those Neon Joy-Cons are the opposite of the ones on the Switch, so if you want all orange or all blue you can get them.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 54,114 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Jeremy Parish with some very positive early impressions of zelda. Seems like they've really given the game the modernisation it needs http://www.retronauts.com/?p=1989


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭druss


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    I think the snipperclips bundle isn't out until the week after launch.

    Store is listing it for 3 March, but that may just be a placeholder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,820 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    druss wrote: »
    Store is listing it for 3 March, but that may just be a placeholder.

    The official press release says it's out on the 10th.


    "How will your powers of cooperation and puzzle-solving shape up? Find out on 3rd March, when Snipperclips - Cut it out, together! launches on Nintendo eShop for Nintendo Switch for £17.99 / €19.99. A special limited bundle containing a pair of Joy-Con controllers and a download code for the game will be available from 10th March."'

    This is all very last minute, like Nintendo are making things up as they go along. What about the day 1 buyers of the Joy-cons? Are they going to get a code as well? It's not very well handled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,120 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    sligeach wrote: »
    This is all very last minute, like Nintendo are making things up as they go along. What about the day 1 buyers of the Joy-cons? Are they going to get a code as well? It's not very well handled.

    No, because we're not paying the extra for the bundle. (Which appears to be no-saving at all.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,485 ✭✭✭✭Banjo


    technically there are no early buyers of the JoyCon yet so no one has been burned and Nintendo have already sounded the fire alarm. But yeah, it feels like this is a last minute scramble to address the pricing grumbles.

    However, if the Snipperclips bundle is the same price as Joycons on their own, wouldn't that just validate your "wait and see" position? You should be cock-a-hoop! But.....

    ...given that it's a Limited offering, will you be buying a joycon bundle now before you get your switch at christmas?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,767 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    sligeach wrote: »
    This is all very last minute, like Nintendo are making things up as they go along. What about the day 1 buyers of the Joy-cons? Are they going to get a code as well? It's not very well handled.

    Like they were being slated for not having enough at/around launch, and as they announce more the criticism has changed to 'they're making it up as they go along', it's petty. They address one problem, and critics move the goalposts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    Zelda sounds pretty fantastic going by the previews.
    Appropriately, for a game where the only thing you have at the start is a pair of boxers and a voice in your head, it takes a while to find your footing. Hyrule doesn’t hold back, and the struggle can be frustrating. But that Breath Of The Wild dares to let you struggle is what makes those first hours so thrilling. Danger is good. Danger is what gives video games life. Breath Of The Wild has finally reconnected with something the series knew so well back when it debuted: Being in over your head is fun, and finding your own way forward will always be more rewarding than getting led there.

    http://www.avclub.com/review/breath-wild-most-alive-zelda-has-felt-30-years-250910

    If my time so far have been a true preview of the experiences that lie ahead once I get on with the plot and descend from the Great Plateau, Breath of the Wild should be 100 or so hours of pure pleasure in the style of the original Zelda, but with modern scope and style. That sounds like the greatest link to the past I could hope to ask for, really.

    http://www.retronauts.com/?p=1989

    It may be a very different Zelda, but it's shaping up to be one of the best ever.

    http://www.wired.co.uk/article/legend-zelda-breath-wild-switch

    Breath of the Wild respects your intelligence as a player more than any Legend of Zelda game before it (with the possible exception of 2013’s 3DS release A Link Between Worlds).

    And second? Breath of the Wild demands your respect. And if you forget that for longer than a few minutes it’ll remind you by knocking you flat on your ass.

    http://www.polygon.com/2017/2/24/14723308/pre-review-the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-nintendo-switch-wii-u

    Like the Switch itself, Breath of the Wild is a game that it attempting to straddle two paths. It's rousing callback to the original Legend of Zelda, bringing back that feeling of wandering a vast, unknown world. Even this small snippet of the game features callbacks to some of the most beloved places and characters from Zeldas past; the 30th anniversary of the series was last year, but this game feels like the real celebration of that milestone.

    http://www.usgamer.net/articles/the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-preview

    This is a game we could write and talk about almost endlessly, as in its early stages it has truly drawn us in - Breath of the Wild blends true open-world mechanics with the touches and fairy dust that makes Legend of Zelda games so special. It's an intoxicating combination, and the exciting thing is that this has just been an early taste; we can't wait to experience all of what it has to offer.
    The adventure is only just beginning.

    http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/02/preview_immersing_ourselves_in_the_world_of_the_legend_of_zelda_breath_of_the_wild

    Breath of the Wild is, five hours in, an enthralling and surprising experience, and the stories being shared among those playing it at GameSpot are all vastly different. Even though we are all playing the same game, we are envious of each other's unique experiences. Breath of the Wild embodies the freedom and danger that made the first Zelda game so enthralling, and captures the feeling of awe that came when Ocarina of Time hit the scene, in this case by layering unspoken variables into seemingly every facet of the game. Based on our early impressions, it's safe to say that Breath of the Wild will forever change what people expect from the series.

    http://www.gamespot.com/articles/zelda-breath-of-the-wild-is-dense-challenging-and-/1100-6448172/?ftag=GSS-05-10aaa0b


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭hairball


    OK...now I'm actually hyped.





    Clarification: as if I wasn't before


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 54,114 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    mayordenis wrote: »
    Like they were being slated for not having enough at/around launch, and as they announce more the criticism has changed to 'they're making it up as they go along', it's petty. They address one problem, and critics move the goalposts.

    It's also totally unrealistic with how business actually works. Like do people actually think that Nintendo just came up with this packaged deal, announced it and pushed it out on store shelves within the last few days?

    More likely this has gone through months of planning and Nintendo just pushed the release forward a bit.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 54,114 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    After getting it so wrong with Skyward Sword, which completely railroaded the player like no other Zelda where even traversing the overworld was going through another dungeon, it's great to see Nintendo starting to let the reins go a bit and actually trust the player. Link Between World's was brilliant in how non-linear it was and how it trusted the player with how it approached it's challenges and by the sounds of it BotW seems to really let the player tackle the overworld in however they want. I'd love if the game encouraged sequence breaking in the way the original Zelda and Link Between Worlds did. It's great to see Nintendo moving away from the sort of stale Zelda pigeon hole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,485 ✭✭✭✭Banjo


    Wait, you think that's better? That they went through months of planning and thought that bundling Snipper Clips with Joycons at a competitive price point a few weeks after the Switch launched would have been a good idea, one that they've been forced to move forward due to media pressure? That would have been absolutely awful. A massive voodoo-enchanted nail into the Bill Pullman's scrotum that is the Switch Pre-Order community.

    Maybe I'm spending too much time reading Sligeach's posts, but it doesn't matter whether or not this is a last minute job or something that's been planned for months. There was zero communication about it until it had already become a negative, and that's fast becoming the hallmark of Nintendo's marketing department.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,820 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    mayordenis wrote: »
    Like they were being slated for not having enough at/around launch, and as they announce more the criticism has changed to 'they're making it up as they go along', it's petty. They address one problem, and critics move the goalposts.


    Nonsense. It's very fair criticism. A week before launch to announce this is, I don't know what the right word to call it is but it's not a company that has their act together. They're clearly scrambling in the background trying to get things ready. almost piecemeal. Just add it to the missing apps, online details, no Direct, VC, etc. The bundle's not ready for launch, it comes out the week after. It has no price either. Again it's 2 weeks away, it should have a price. Are they going to ask for €100-110 for it? That would be nuts. I'm sure there are people with Joy-con bundles ordered, maybe have a deal done, or already paid it off. What about them now? Especially if it's €90 like the standard double Joy-con set. Yet more questions, very few answers forthcoming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 990 ✭✭✭earthwormjack


    A friend of mine just text me that gamestop rang him and asked did he want to upgrade to the SnipperClips bundle for a tenner extra.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 54,114 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Banjo wrote: »
    Wait, you think that's better? That they went through months of planning and thought that bundling Snipper Clips with Joycons at a competitive price point a few weeks after the Switch launched would have been a good idea, one that they've been forced to move forward due to media pressure? That would have been absolutely awful. A massive voodoo-enchanted nail into the Bill Pullman's scrotum that is the Switch Pre-Order community.

    Maybe I'm spending too much time reading Sligeach's posts, but it doesn't matter whether or not this is a last minute job or something that's been planned for months. There was zero communication about it until it had already become a negative, and that's fast becoming the hallmark of Nintendo's marketing department.

    I fail to see how it's a negative though. They're releasing a product a little bit earlier than planned. Secondly the bundle isn't saving anyone any money. And lastly it you feel like cancelling your joycon pre-order because of it.. you kind of have a week to do it. I very much doubt the people that have one pre-ordered aren't aware of this.

    I think the only people that are turning it into a negative are the people that just want to see the Switch fail and spin it as something negative, which is just kind of weird when you think about it.

    Also do people realise how Nintendo operate? They are very unlike other companies. Nintendo will sit of finished products and release them when they feel it's a good time to release them. They did this with Luigi's Mansion 2, they are doing it with Mario Odyssey which is apparently pretty much finished and they they did it with Earthbound Zero which unfortunately never got released. Most other companies will keep to a release date and launch on that release date no matter what the business conditions (look what happened to poor old Titanfall 2).

    I think rather than feeling Nintendo are scrambling I think far more realistic is that Nintendo have been sitting on this bundle for a while with stock waiting and ready to go and just decided to release it a little earlier. Usually the most simple theories are correct. In the world of big business and mass goods where you need to factor in legislation, taxes, distribution, shipping there's no such thing as a rush, a rushed launch typically in involves months of work. Hey I just launched a product today myself and got it out on the first truck today and it was a total rush job but also the product of about 1 years work which counts as very rushed in this industry.

    But then maybe the youtubers and vloggers with no understanding of how business works are right and don't just look for clicks by being overly reactionary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,559 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    A friend of mine just text me that gamestop rang him and asked did he want to upgrade to the SnipperClips bundle for a tenner extra.

    joy-con bundle or console bundle?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 990 ✭✭✭earthwormjack


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    joy-con bundle or console bundle?

    Joycon bundle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,820 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    The best Nintendo Switch Easter egg is a mysterious fictional employee

    Meet Amelia.


    Barring some massive last-minute redesign, the Nintendo Switch will launch with one of the company’s most benign user interfaces. A queue of open slots (for your yet-to-be-built game collection) floats above six small icons: News, eShop, Album, Controllers, System Settings, and Power. There’s no flashy animation or interactive Mii village. It’s less minimal than it is skeletal. Fittingly, the console has two visual themes from which to choose: “Basic White” and “Basic Black.” Yes, those are the real names.

    However, the Switch isn’t completely void of personality. Nintendo has placed one charming and recurring detail throughout the menus. Its name is Amelia, and she is a fictional customer support employee. Amelia resembles a Doctor Seuss character, a petite young woman with a robin’s egg blue bob and an orange turtleneck. Every news update is written from the first person, and after the thrust of the news, Amelia amends a personal letter with some additional details.
    amelia_photo.png
    Amelia

    She’ll give you advice on how to ask for digital storage at the electronics shop (“Ask for UHS-I or higher microSD card. The folks at the store should know what you mean.”) or empathize with the complexity of new hardware (The game card slot is kind of hidden, too. Check the top right of the screen!).

    Every note ends the same way:
    Happy gaming,

    Amelia


    The inclusion of a fictional guide has plenty of precedent at Nintendo. Super Mario Maker for 3DS. The mobile Mario design game features its own support crew, like a pigeon named Yamamura and a young woman named Mary O., who, like Amelia, sports an old-fashioned phone headset. It also included an unlockable costume inspired by Nikki, the guide of the Nintnedo 3DS application Swapnote. Nikki now appears in a number of Nintendo games, including Art Acadeny: Lessons for Everyone and Swapdoodle.

    Perhaps Amelia will develop her own corner of the larger Nintendo mythos. Surely her support skills would be a boon in the next Super Smash Bros. Few characters have the thick skin of a customer support employee. At the very least, I suspect we’ll gradually learn more about Amelia, particularly in the quirky post-scripts that occasionally trade instructions for tiny bits of character.

    http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/24/14726054/nintendo-switch-easter-egg-amelia


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,811 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    A lot of the negative stuff is just spin, with people making grand assumptions as to how a large corporation works, and even then how Nintendo work.
    To take an announcement of a Snipperclips/Joycon bundle and turn it into a not only a negative, but evidence that somehow Nintendo have finally gone insane is just hyperbole and pitched to the most anxious and self hating of Nintendo fans.
    People really need to remember that Nintendo have had precisely one console that "failed" released in Europe, the WiiU, and even then it had the best exclusive content of any platform bar the PC during its lifespan.
    But it's an easier sell to trip out "Nintendo have mucked up the Switch" than it is to cast a proper critical eye on the system.
    Plus, all that today, when BotW would suggest that the game is one of the best on the market and the best place to play it is on the Switch


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,767 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    sligeach wrote: »
    Nonsense. It's very fair criticism. A week before launch to announce this is, I don't know what the right word to call it is but it's not a company that has their act together. They're clearly scrambling in the background trying to get things ready. almost piecemeal. Just add it to the missing apps, online details, no Direct, VC, etc. The bundle's not ready for launch, it comes out the week after. It has no price either. Again it's 2 weeks away, it should have a price. Are they going to ask for €100-110 for it? That would be nuts. I'm sure there are people with Joy-con bundles ordered, maybe have a deal done, or already paid it off. What about them now? Especially if it's €90 like the standard double Joy-con set. Yet more questions, very few answers forthcoming.

    Look we obviously disagree but 'fair' in something like this is entirely subjective. Every console in this day and age gets to market as soon as it's consumer ready and gets updated as it goes.

    This console does not require netflix to be ready for the market, it now has a pretty decent launch line up. You are complaining that they've decided to bundle a game with an accessory 1 week after launch. They announced it today and you're complaining about the price not being nailed down.

    Pre-orders really??? Like come on, this is some childish carry-on, the vast majority of people can swap a pre-order or cancel it, you yourself have been talking bout cancelling pre-orders for quite some time. If somebody wants snipperclips and is happy to wait they can get it in a bundle a week later, if somebody doesn't want snipperclips they can not get the bundle and stick with their pre-order.

    So to recap you think it's fair, I think it's complete nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,485 ✭✭✭✭Banjo


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    I fail to see how it's a negative though. They're releasing a product a little bit earlier than planned. Secondly the bundle isn't saving anyone any money. And lastly it you feel like cancelling your joycon pre-order because of it.. you kind of have a week to do it. I very much doubt the people that have one pre-ordered aren't aware of this.

    I think the only people that are turning it into a negative are the people that just want to see the Switch fail and spin it as something negative, which is just kind of weird when you think about it.

    Forgive the hyperbole, but that's exactly the kind of closed minded thinking that allowed both Brexit and Trump to slip through the back door. I absolutely do not want this to fail. I'm one of few 1-console-per-gen people, and for better or for worse this is my console for this gen. I *need* it to succeed. I have the next 5 years of my gaming life depending on it. As such, I would like Nintendo to stop ****ing about and show me that I'm not making a bad decision.

    Let me extend that metaphor to it's logical conclusion. This is a marriage. The service is about to start, I'm standing at the altar and I can hear noises behind me. I don't know what they are because, diligent groom that I am, I'm not going to turn around. But it sounds a lot like no one has seen the bride since she staggered drunk into a tattoo parlour 48 hours ago. I know she's going to turn up and I know the ceremony is going ahead, but I'd feel a lot better about it if I knew she was going to be dressed appropriately, not have a spiderweb tatooed on her face and wasn't pregnant by some biker she mistook for a toilet seat.

    Nintendo, in this case, is the brides mother. She knows EVERYTHING that's going on and instead of calling out to me to tell me so I can relax, she's chuckling away behind a fan of hanafuda cards.

    I don't know if that makes any sense.
    Also do people realise how Nintendo operate?
    Unfortunately, after this many iterations, yes I'm painfully aware of how they operate. Perhaps in the previous example I should have been the bride rather than the groom, constantly turning up for the wedding and hoping this time he'll make parole and will stop murdering prostitutes to skip out on the bill, but knowing in my heart that in 3 months I'm going to be lonely and infected leaving the courthouse...

    Knowing that this is what they do doesn't make it right. I applaud that they're willing to give a game the space it needs to be right on launch instead of a buggy mess, and there's nothing wrong with delaying release until the optimum time, within reason (as opposed to Wii U BotW!) but this is nonsensical - pushing this bundle out a week after launch, or a month, or 6 months - anything other than launch day is sub-optimal. Ifyou can't see how March 10th is a mistake, I can't explain it to you. Looking further forward, MK and Splatoon will eclipse this very quickly in the multiplayer space reducing the need for it. But launch day? People are hyped. People are pissing money up the wall. People want an excuse to buy more controllers and this bundle is it.
    But then maybe the youtubers and vloggers with no understanding of how business works are right and don't just look for clicks by being overly reactionary.
    For the record, I'm following the story on Boards, diverting mainly for the positive hype stories on NintendoLife and Polygon. I'm not upset that some millenial gob****e has more Ninty axe to grind, I'm upset that as a long term customer they don't give a flying **** about me and they have no qualms about spelling that out. And I'm upset that I keep letting them away with it.

    This isn't about joycon bundles. This isn't about Netflix. This isn't about the VC. It's all of those things, it's all the other things we don't know, it's the lack of a direct, it's everything. They aren't talking to us. Why aren't they talking to us? There's a ****ing week to go!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,385 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Well I was able to preorder one with Zelda in Smyths for launch day this afternoon so I'm happy.


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